Community Tasting Note
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watcheslover Likes this wine: 99 points
December 25, 2022 - Re-tasted a few days ago, this wine is incredible as it exceeds the limits of this vintage!
I think he might be the only one of all Bordeaux to end up being better than 2020-2019 and maybe even 2016, too early to tell.1 person found this helpful 8,766 views
9 Comments
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winenoob101 commented:
12/25/22, 2:37 PM - I appreciate the effort that goes into writing these but is this a tasting note?
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watcheslover commented:
12/26/22, 12:01 AM - Hello,
99 points is a tasting score.
For the rest, if you want to read 10 times in a row that a wine tastes of red fruits, undergrowth and soy sauce, that's up to you. I try to do things differently and to be more impressionistic than realistic. I also tend to give a slightly higher rating to a not too expensive wine than to another more famous one of the same quality. Finally, my real name is not known, neither to consumers nor to winegrowers, and I never leave a tasting at the estate with my arms full of gifts. In short, it's my style, some people like it and others don't have to read me.
Happy Holidays -
winenoob101 commented:
12/26/22, 1:34 AM - Fair enough, I agree with you that reading multiple times that wine taste of red fruits etc is of little benefit. To me tasting note doesn't have to be only that.
I like that you try to identify up and comming producers and those who overperfome vintage or price. I just miss any kind of explanation. What makes this wine so good, why do you like it? -
watcheslover commented:
12/26/22, 3:11 AM - Simply because they are different wines!!! These are winegrowers who do not rest on their laurels, telling themselves that the terroir is great, the year is good, we are going to make the same wine as last year and if the year is less good, bam we spend 30% of the harvest in a second wine, no big deal we make 250,000 bottles!
A wine has to be a surprise, that it upsets our habits, that we discover new emotions. The relatively recent addition of, for example, large quantities of Cabernet Franc is often a marvel. To put the unstemmed harvest too. After the Parker wave where all the wines had to be black and powerful oak soups, we found the finesse and above all the most important, the definition and the exact taste of the terroir.
This is why I would always prefer a Lafleur to a Petrus or a Le Pin, a Tertre Roteboeuf to a Pavie, a Carmes to a Haut-Brion, an Arnoux-Lachaux or a Leroy to the Domaine de la Romanée-Conti, a Côte Rôtie from Gangloff to a Guigal...
I saw that you rated the Allobroges estate, if you liked this wine, you must understand me.
Do you live in France? -
winenoob101 commented:
12/27/22, 3:04 PM - I think I understand your point, thank you for explaining it. Its those producers whose wine make you feel something. Those resting on their laurels don't make bad wine necessarily, it is just not why I drink wine, it doesn't excite me.
I'm based in Czechia not France, it makes finding wines like Allobroges not easy unfortunately. -
ohne_musik commented:
5/23/23, 9:21 AM - Watcheslover - your note is very helpful. I loved 2019 (and 2018 and pretty much everything since 2016, even 2017). Haven't tried 2020 yet but have a case in storage.
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watcheslover commented:
5/23/23, 9:29 AM - Das ist kluges Einkaufen!! Probieren Sie auch den 2014er, er ist wunderbar und trinkfertig
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ohne_musik commented:
5/23/23, 9:38 AM - Ich habe 2014 auch, aber noch nicht probiert!
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watcheslover commented:
5/23/23, 9:39 AM - Gut gespielt!