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2001 Red Car Syrah Dreaming Detective

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  • jayh808 wrote: 50 points

    December 19, 2013 - Bottled under neo cork and showing. Oxidized with an amazing amount of ethyl acetate on it too. Undrinkable.

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7 Comments

  • StefanAkiko commented:

    3/21/14, 7:03 PM - So, why don't you just mark your btl "Flawed" instead of scoring an obviously flawed wine? There's a reason why there is a "flawed" option...

  • jayh808 commented:

    3/21/14, 8:33 PM - It's not corked or any number of flaws that were of the winemakers choice. A closure is their choice and that is what made this bottle shit!

    That is why I didn't use the flawed button. This is what everyone else will most likely experience too.

  • StefanAkiko commented:

    3/21/14, 8:59 PM - With all due respect, if you read the other TN's on this wine, yours stand out as an obvious flaw. Here's for inspiration on wine flaws:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_fault

  • StefanAkiko commented:

    3/21/14, 9:01 PM - As you write in your TN:
    "Oxidized with an amazing amount of ethyl acetate on it too." It would at least be a contender for oxidized...

  • jayh808 commented:

    3/21/14, 9:26 PM - Do you know what a neo cork is? Have you seen what they have done to older Red Car, Loring, Behrens and Hitchcock among others? Why don't you email any one of those winemakers or many others and ask them why they don't use those corks anymore?

    Look at the terminology I used, obviously I don't need Wikipedia to tell me what a flaw is. If a cork choice causes the "flaw", that is going to affect almost all bottles, not here or there like an actual flaw, where you may have a chance.

    Someone with a seeming vested interest as yourself should research a little more, maybe open a bottle of it of your own an report back. Hell, I have two more Red Car from the first two vintages with neo cork. I'll be happy to open mine and report back. I can guarantee through experience that they will show the same.

    Perhaps the others you are trying to use to show that I am the outlier, don't understand what faults are.The true failure of CT tasting notes, and people like you who believe everything they read.

  • StefanAkiko commented:

    3/22/14, 3:14 AM - Your wits and charming ways aside, there are two subjects here: one is regarding your wine, which you repeatedly say is flawed and bullheadedly refuse to mark "flawed". The other issue at hand is your discontent with the wine's closure.

    Even if a bottle has mud for closure and becomes a flawed wine, it would still be a flawed wine. Not a 50 point wine because someone dislikes mud closures.

    I'm personally against natural cork as a closure for modern day wines, but still mark my wines as "flawed" whenever a natural cork has failed to keep my wine in good health. Even if that happens more often than I should allow my patience to bear.

  • StefanAkiko commented:

    3/27/14, 3:05 AM - I still think it prudent of you to mark this wine as a flaw. No need to be angry about it and write nasty things about other people. Just accept the wine as flawed and move on with your life.

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