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2013 Christian Salmon Sancerre Rosé Cuvée Vieilles Vignes

Pinot Noir

  • France
  • Loire Valley
  • Upper Loire
  • Sancerre

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  • fm1488 Likes this wine: 80 points

    January 27, 2015 - So this was a suRaprise as I thought I was grabbing a white Sancerre which my wife and I both enjoy. Wine is branded a rose but it leans more red. Translucent ruby typical of a light claret. It's got the Pinot character. Hint of floral and dried plum on the nose. But there is also a hint of cheddar and fresh sawdust. All very subtle. Flavor are a combination of just ripe strawberry and dash of cherry. Seems low - moderate acidity. Medium body. Well balanced with a simple finish that suits the wine. This is a specific occasion wine and for an afternoon bottle in spring like whether sitting in my sunroom with Andre Bocelli in the background, it was a very nice fit. Would fit nicely with an English cheddar.

    7/6/6/6/5

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2 Comments

  • SSGibson commented:

    3/29/15, 1:55 PM - I was surprised by the low score given the mainly favorable language in your review. Was there a flaw that resulted in the score of 80 for this rose?

  • fm1488 commented:

    3/29/15, 3:19 PM - Response to SSGibson: Hey, thanks for the comment. Thing here is you need to know how I score. Score of 80 is good. I score on color, nose, style, balance and finish individual on a 1-10 pt scale. I then add 50. Cellar tracker, WS and Parker all use 100 pts but the fact is the pretty much start at or don't score below 50 which is then really a 50 pt scale to the other end. I find all the sub divisions of good, vs very good or excellent, outstanding, classic, etc to all be a little subjective and concerned that consistency can be lacking or all aspects of the wine aren't treated fairly. I also think I tend to be a bit harsher. I think high 80s and 90s are given out too easily in a lot of cases.

    So by scoring five elements it becomes simpler actually. On any attribute, 1-3 is poor, 4-5 is satisfactory, 6-7 is good and 8-10 is excellent. So in total, up to 20 (or 7) is poor, up to 29 (79) is satisfactory, 30-39 (80-89) is good and then 90 and over becomes excellent. For me, a wine has to truly earn the score on all elements. I may love a style of a wine and give it a 10 there but if finish is weak or say color is off or cloudy, that will take it out of the top category. The scoring system doesn't let me subjectively rate it high if it doesn't hold up on all areas.

    The rose here was good. Just good though. Looking at my individual scores, it was very good on the nose, middle on style, color and balance. From memory, it maybe could have been a point or two higher on balance and color. Finish was kind of simple and flat. Only got a five there. So overall it hit "Good" for me. Call it 82 or 84 on another day but that's where it sat for me.

    Thanks again and hope that helped clarify.

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