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92 Points

Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - This bottle was disgorged in 1985, so probably an atypical note. The age really works wonders on this. Really biscuity with hints of cherry essence, fruit pastry, and a hint of gunflint, the energy on this bottle was vigourous. Just delightful.

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  • Comment posted by John Dunlap:

    8/25/2020 10:43:00 AM - Nice to hear the NV can age. How could you tell when it was disgorged? I have an older 1.5 from around 2002 and wasn't sure it would be any good.

  • Comment posted by depechemoroder:

    8/26/2020 4:07:00 AM - Well I suppose you don't have an absolute year, but a rough idea. The case we had included the shipping date into the UK, which was 1990, and would assume disgorgement about 5 years previously. Apparently only one case in a pallet would have the date it went into the bonded warehouse so we were lucky there. I'm not sure if this works the same way in other countries.

  • Comment posted by John Dunlap:

    8/26/2020 7:10:00 AM - Hey - thanks for the additional background. Still a bit gun-shy about opening up an old NV, but why not. BTW, visited Billecart-Salmon several years ago - which I highly recomend - and they seem to think their NV rose should be consumed within 3 or 4 years of purchase. Will let you know the results when opened. Cheers.

  • Comment posted by depechemoroder:

    8/27/2020 12:41:00 AM - I often find wine producing countries drink wines far younger than countries that don't produce and primarily consume. As the French say about us in the UK - 'le gout Anglais!'. As much as I love age on my wine, however, there are just as many things to love about a youthful bottle.

  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/2/2020 1:05:00 PM - Depechemoroder, was your bottle from this TN a 750 or 1.5L? ... That’s a long sleep for a bottle of NV Rose. Very impressive!

  • Comment posted by depechemoroder:

    9/3/2020 1:24:00 AM - Hi 2020, it was from a 750mL standard bottle. A friend had stored this for many years and was kind enough to share it.

  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/3/2020 9:27:00 AM - A very generous friend :)

    How was the bubble concentration? I’ve read they diminish with age, but have not read of anybody posting a % on the loss. That would be an interesting statistic to learn/know. Thx.

  • Comment posted by depechemoroder:

    9/5/2020 2:21:00 AM - The bubbles were perhaps ever so slightly less fine, but not in a terribly obvious way. I was so captivated by the overall palate that this did not make a strong impression, but there is truth to what you're describing.

  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/5/2020 5:37:00 PM - I’m drooling trying to imagine what that flavor must have been like. I really enjoy this wine when it’s young but do favor a Champagne with a bit of age.

    What’s his storage conditions? I’m beginning to think if you store things with very “proper” conditions (55f with 70% humidity) the bubbles loss is minimal.

    I think this review is going to make me buy some magnums and lay them down :)

  • Comment posted by depechemoroder:

    9/6/2020 1:02:00 AM - They were in the wine trade and had this in perfect conditions - in their commercial storage and then when they retired a custom built cellar.

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