Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - This bottle was disgorged in 1985, so probably an atypical note. The age really works wonders on this. Really biscuity with hints of cherry essence, fruit pastry, and a hint of gunflint, the energy on this bottle was vigourous. Just delightful.
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Comment posted by John Dunlap:
8/25/2020 10:43:00 AM - Nice to hear the NV can age. How could you tell when it was disgorged? I have an older 1.5 from around 2002 and wasn't sure it would be any good.
Comment posted by depechemoroder:
8/26/2020 4:07:00 AM - Well I suppose you don't have an absolute year, but a rough idea. The case we had included the shipping date into the UK, which was 1990, and would assume disgorgement about 5 years previously. Apparently only one case in a pallet would have the date it went into the bonded warehouse so we were lucky there. I'm not sure if this works the same way in other countries.
Comment posted by John Dunlap:
8/26/2020 7:10:00 AM - Hey - thanks for the additional background. Still a bit gun-shy about opening up an old NV, but why not. BTW, visited Billecart-Salmon several years ago - which I highly recomend - and they seem to think their NV rose should be consumed within 3 or 4 years of purchase. Will let you know the results when opened. Cheers.
Comment posted by depechemoroder:
8/27/2020 12:41:00 AM - I often find wine producing countries drink wines far younger than countries that don't produce and primarily consume. As the French say about us in the UK - 'le gout Anglais!'. As much as I love age on my wine, however, there are just as many things to love about a youthful bottle.
Comment posted by 2020:
9/2/2020 1:05:00 PM - Depechemoroder, was your bottle from this TN a 750 or 1.5L? ... That’s a long sleep for a bottle of NV Rose. Very impressive!
Comment posted by depechemoroder:
9/3/2020 1:24:00 AM - Hi 2020, it was from a 750mL standard bottle. A friend had stored this for many years and was kind enough to share it.
Comment posted by 2020:
9/3/2020 9:27:00 AM - A very generous friend :)
How was the bubble concentration? I’ve read they diminish with age, but have not read of anybody posting a % on the loss. That would be an interesting statistic to learn/know. Thx.
Comment posted by depechemoroder:
9/5/2020 2:21:00 AM - The bubbles were perhaps ever so slightly less fine, but not in a terribly obvious way. I was so captivated by the overall palate that this did not make a strong impression, but there is truth to what you're describing.
Comment posted by 2020:
9/5/2020 5:37:00 PM - I’m drooling trying to imagine what that flavor must have been like. I really enjoy this wine when it’s young but do favor a Champagne with a bit of age.
What’s his storage conditions? I’m beginning to think if you store things with very “proper” conditions (55f with 70% humidity) the bubbles loss is minimal.
I think this review is going to make me buy some magnums and lay them down :)
Comment posted by depechemoroder:
9/6/2020 1:02:00 AM - They were in the wine trade and had this in perfect conditions - in their commercial storage and then when they retired a custom built cellar.