Took this to a tasting of De Negoce wines in May. Prepped wine with a short decant & then 24 hours in the open bottle. Good, complex, but still needs substantial cellar time.
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Seems very young and awkward to me and it really should have 2-3 more years of sleep. Day 2 was much more enjoyable even though that firm grip of tannins (for a Pinot) is still in place
Decanted from 60 degree cellar (ok, basement) and immediately poured first glass. Very shy on the nose at first. Red fruit on the palate, with the 14.9 percent abv evident but not offputting. This is a young, supposedly Platt vineyard pinot. At this point it is very primary but still an enjoyable sip. Have had older Platt's that developed wonderfully complex flavors and hope to make some of these last that long. But it is also very enjoyable now. Glad to have 12, er, 11 of these left. Would expect to see this score increase.
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I’ve grown to hate this wine, bottle by bottle. And it’s on me. I should never have bought a 14.9% ABV Pinot. I don’t even buy Zins with that much alcohol.
I’ll grant Cameron that the alcohol is balanced. Sure. But there are many balances and the ripeness here is just too much for Pinot from anywhere. Now, that’s about me. My style. If you like big California Pinot, enjoy. People who do who I’ve served it to think it’s fine.
Note to self: Never buy any Pinot Noir with more than 13.8% ABV, preferably 13.5%.
Six more bottles… *sigh*
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Three blind dN Pinots: Red and black fruits and a bit of stems and oak on the nose. High in alcohol and ripe red fruits on the palate. Again, not as much structure as I'd like in a PN.
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The problem with creating insanely high expectations is the high potential for relative disappointment. This wine is a very good daily drinker. QPR is OK at the typical already-inflated-IMO California Pinot Noir pricing; questionable when considering world pricing. (Costco's 2016 Kirkland Barolo, my current QPR benchmark, was the same price without requiring a case purchase and was clearly superior in its style, and if you question the one point difference in my scores my answer would be to rate this lower, not that one higher.) There is no way this would credibly retail for "well over $100/bottle" as Cameron had said in the notes. But then again, IMO, the only wines in California that routinely sell at reasonable QPR are Zins and sparklers. I can see this retailing for $40. At that price I wouldn't buy it, but I'm sure some would.
It is not "pale ruby in the glass." It is medium ruby. Before using the words pale ruby to describe something please google pale rubies. Pale rubies are actually a deep pink. But I realize the Wine Folly chart made all the ruby colors darker so I'll give everyone a pass.
Pretty red fruits with a hint of cola and clove in the mouth. (I don't know where others get pepper.) Short finish. Linear. A cellar defender.
It is Burgundian in that the use of wood was judiciously restrained. No earthy or floral notes or minerality that I can detect however. IMO it seems too fruit-forward to be called Burgundian, but I'm not enough of a Burgundy connoisseur to opine that definitively.
I won't go out of my way to store bottles to age, but I still have 10 left, so some may end up accidentally aging. I seriously doubt this can go to 2030 without unbalancing as some suggest. But I could be wrong. Setting my outside date at 2026.
If you or your guests go in without expectations you might enjoy it. So, please do yourself a favor and do not read Cameron's notes before enjoying this wine.
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Pale ruby. Strong intensity aroma of blueberry, black cherry. Dry, low tannin, medium+ acidity, medium alcohol. Light body. Medium intensity flavour of blueberry, pepper, VA. Short finish.
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On the nose- Bright red fruits, fresh cherries, wild strawberries, red raspberries, fresh cranberries, wild red flowers, mountain herbs
On the palate- Bright red fruits and fresh cherries, wild strawberries and red raspberries, fresh cranberries and wild red flowers with a hint of mountain herbs on the finish. This is lush and super well put together but very young and need a 2 plus hour decant. This wine is still kind of tight being super young and needs at least 6months to a year if not longer to really settle down and being able to shine. I see this holding up for another 5-7 with not much problem at all
7/20/2023 - Mdmiller wrote:
Took this to a tasting of De Negoce wines in May. Prepped wine with a short decant & then 24 hours in the open bottle. Good, complex, but still needs substantial cellar time.
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5/30/2023 - Eroling Likes this wine: 90 Points
Less memorable than before. Good flavor but lacking depth or finish.
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4/5/2023 - flydcjets Likes this wine: 88 Points
Good. Has come around a bit...
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3/13/2023 - cyc Does not like this wine: 87 Points
Would be a nice Zinfandel maybe. Way too boozy and hot
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4/29/2022 - fingers wrote:
Seems very young and awkward to me and it really should have 2-3 more years of sleep.
Day 2 was much more enjoyable even though that firm grip of tannins (for a Pinot) is still in place
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2/2/2022 - Giller63 Likes this wine: 90 Points
Decanted from 60 degree cellar (ok, basement) and immediately poured first glass. Very shy on the nose at first. Red fruit on the palate, with the 14.9 percent abv evident but not offputting. This is a young, supposedly Platt vineyard pinot. At this point it is very primary but still an enjoyable sip. Have had older Platt's that developed wonderfully complex flavors and hope to make some of these last that long. But it is also very enjoyable now. Glad to have 12, er, 11 of these left. Would expect to see this score increase.
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1/29/2022 - Eroling Likes this wine: 92 Points
Really pleasant surprise. This was enjoyable and delicious.
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12/4/2021 - guillermo- Does not like this wine: 85 Points
I’ve grown to hate this wine, bottle by bottle. And it’s on me. I should never have bought a 14.9% ABV Pinot. I don’t even buy Zins with that much alcohol.
I’ll grant Cameron that the alcohol is balanced. Sure. But there are many balances and the ripeness here is just too much for Pinot from anywhere. Now, that’s about me. My style. If you like big California Pinot, enjoy. People who do who I’ve served it to think it’s fine.
Note to self: Never buy any Pinot Noir with more than 13.8% ABV, preferably 13.5%.
Six more bottles… *sigh*
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11/14/2021 - Cfink119 Likes this wine: 89 Points
Nice wine. Improved with time open. Could use 1-3 more years to fully combine and mellow.
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10/14/2021 - rcb25 wrote:
Three blind dN Pinots: Red and black fruits and a bit of stems and oak on the nose. High in alcohol and ripe red fruits on the palate. Again, not as much structure as I'd like in a PN.
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7/29/2021 - EMichels wrote: 91 Points
Improved over the first hour from opening to a strong, clean, bright cherry fruit; Medium weight and depth; Long Finish; Really nice
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7/22/2021 - guillermo- wrote: 89 Points
The problem with creating insanely high expectations is the high potential for relative disappointment. This wine is a very good daily drinker. QPR is OK at the typical already-inflated-IMO California Pinot Noir pricing; questionable when considering world pricing. (Costco's 2016 Kirkland Barolo, my current QPR benchmark, was the same price without requiring a case purchase and was clearly superior in its style, and if you question the one point difference in my scores my answer would be to rate this lower, not that one higher.) There is no way this would credibly retail for "well over $100/bottle" as Cameron had said in the notes. But then again, IMO, the only wines in California that routinely sell at reasonable QPR are Zins and sparklers. I can see this retailing for $40. At that price I wouldn't buy it, but I'm sure some would.
It is not "pale ruby in the glass." It is medium ruby. Before using the words pale ruby to describe something please google pale rubies. Pale rubies are actually a deep pink. But I realize the Wine Folly chart made all the ruby colors darker so I'll give everyone a pass.
Pretty red fruits with a hint of cola and clove in the mouth. (I don't know where others get pepper.) Short finish. Linear. A cellar defender.
It is Burgundian in that the use of wood was judiciously restrained. No earthy or floral notes or minerality that I can detect however. IMO it seems too fruit-forward to be called Burgundian, but I'm not enough of a Burgundy connoisseur to opine that definitively.
I won't go out of my way to store bottles to age, but I still have 10 left, so some may end up accidentally aging. I seriously doubt this can go to 2030 without unbalancing as some suggest. But I could be wrong. Setting my outside date at 2026.
If you or your guests go in without expectations you might enjoy it. So, please do yourself a favor and do not read Cameron's notes before enjoying this wine.
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6/8/2021 - EMichels wrote: 90 Points
Clean fresh fruit; Medium ripeness; Medium transparency; Nice
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6/2/2021 - mayakacz wrote:
Pale ruby.
Strong intensity aroma of blueberry, black cherry.
Dry, low tannin, medium+ acidity, medium alcohol. Light body. Medium intensity flavour of blueberry, pepper, VA. Short finish.
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5/2/2021 - WineGeek1989 Likes this wine: 91 Points
On the nose- Bright red fruits, fresh cherries, wild strawberries, red raspberries, fresh cranberries, wild red flowers, mountain herbs
On the palate- Bright red fruits and fresh cherries, wild strawberries and red raspberries, fresh cranberries and wild red flowers with a hint of mountain herbs on the finish. This is lush and super well put together but very young and need a 2 plus hour decant. This wine is still kind of tight being super young and needs at least 6months to a year if not longer to really settle down and being able to shine. I see this holding up for another 5-7 with not much problem at all
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