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| Community Tasting Notes (average 91.2 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 283 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Rieslingfan on 5/18/2024: Well it was at least better than the horrid bottle I had two years ago. Instead of being a milkshake caricature like the bottle in 2022, it had become a generic, could be from anywhere, could be from any grape wine. Hard to believe that’s an improvement but well… (251 views) | | | Tasted by devraj on 4/4/2024 & rated 92 points: Dark inky purple/red in color. Complex aromas of black small fruits, menthol/camphor, baking and savory spices on the nose. Very juicy on the palate showing crushed sweet blackberries, cassis, savory Indian spices, medium acidity, fully resolved tannins and a long finish dominated by menthol. This is very good. I guess a small nit is that it is perhaps too polished and modern and does not show the 'typicity' and 'rusticity' of a Crozes. (667 views) | | | Tasted by dbkitc on 2/12/2024 & rated 89 points: Drank 4 bottles with friends watching the big game. A significant improvement over previous bottles. Less flash, more complexity. Still round, but also showing some minerality and earth which was nice. Good glug of Rhone if still a bit too stylized. (89) (1153 views) | | | Tasted by Duncan H on 1/9/2024 & rated 89 points: Very good, but not sensational. Full, but not particularly complex. Plenty of life left in this, I reckon. (1183 views) | | | Tasted by devraj on 12/2/2023 & rated 92 points: Dark reddish purple. The aromas take a while to show smoky blackberries, dried spiced meat, Indian spices and violets. A full to medium bodied palate shows sweet black fruits, hint of black olives, medium acidity, fine tannins and a savory, meaty finish. (1096 views) | | | Tasted by BernieMSY on 10/26/2023 & rated 93 points: Popped and poured.
Dark purple color;
Softened tannins; deeply integrated with lots of black fruit. (1342 views) | | | Tasted by ccarter5181 on 10/8/2023 & rated 92 points: 20 minute decant (significant sediment). Impressive perfumed nose of dark fruit with hints of smoked meat. Nice rich dark fruit with impressive concentration on the palate with notes of smoked meat and graphite. Long smooth finish. Excellent overall and drinking very well right now. (1323 views) | | | Tasted by Sugarb on 9/28/2023 & rated 94 points: Drinking perfectly right now. Everything in harmony. Exactly what you'd expect. Drink now, community tasting window might be a touch long, based on this bottle. Paired great with roasted garlic pork loin. (1252 views) | | | Tasted by SUnger on 5/27/2023 & rated 92 points: Great concentration, plum to prune, dark cherries, lovely balance, nice length, great effort for its age (1766 views) | | | Tasted by engelwein on 5/10/2023 & rated 90 points: Wurde in den letzten Jahren immner besser; schöne Nase und kräftig im Mund ohne Tannin. Sicher noch gut bis 2025. (1711 views) | | | Tasted by The-E-Man on 4/21/2023: Don’t PnP this! It’s a big wine and throws quite a sediment. On Day 1 this showed more like a Cornas. A bit out of balance. Beautiful ripe black fruit nose (hedgerow blackberry), some oak. Intensely dark, powerful, inky robe. Black olives and a thick seam of sappy, fresh, herbal bitterness with enough tannin for a good few more years yet. Long finish. Lots of depth and concentration, clearly an old vine wine. Day 2 showed much more harmony and that intense bitterness had subsided. Needs big, meaty, rich food, like a game casserole. Seriously good value on the secondary market. Crozes generally may not be that interesting an AOC but this is from the 1% of seriously good vineyards in the area, and the class shows. Drink or hold. (1581 views) | | | Tasted by TexasBob on 4/8/2023 & rated 93 points: Extremely dark juice with dark ruby in the middle. Mixed red and black fruits with a hint of cigar on the nose. No idea why the cigar is there.
Super rich wine with a silken texture. No hint of degradation whatsoever; in fact, it’s still drinking young. Ripe blackberry, mulberries, black plums, and restrained graphite notes dominate with ripe raspberries lacing the edges. Delicious with a long life ahead of it. (1550 views) | | | Tasted by empire80 on 12/18/2022 & rated 92 points: Another great bottle, perfumed nose with sweet fruit, plenty of dark fruit on the palate, a little hint of liquorice and tar, some tertiary notes starting to appear, this is in a beautiful place, drink now and next couple of years. (2292 views) | | | Tasted by HonorAmerica on 11/25/2022 & rated 92 points: Beautiful northern Rhone wine. Drinking fine now, but probably at it's prime. (2002 views) | | | Tasted by YoRi on 10/29/2022 & rated 91 points: Nettement mieux apprécié qu'en 2017.
Nez ouvert. Thé des bois très agréable, réglisse, confiture de mûre.
En bouche, continuité sur les arômes perçues, le vin a de la mâche, des tanins granuleux et arrondis. La persistance est très longue.
Les 5 années de garde supplémentaires aurait bonifié le vin à cet état ? ! Ou mon palet évolue!!.... (2133 views) | | | Tasted by Wrighty on 9/18/2022: Dark inky colour. Sage and stewed fruit on the nose which comes though onto the palate plus some pepper. Fully integrated, smooth finish. Lovely wine. (2130 views) | | | Tasted by stockett on 9/13/2022 & rated 90 points: PNP - drinking well but likely at peak - drink up
Nose: cherry, vanilla, sage, and pepper; fully integrated; medium+ aromatic intensity; California cab oak intensity
Palate: Aromatics confirmed; more intense on the sage/pepper notes; mature/smooth tannins (M+ intensity); reserved acidity (M-); balanced, M+ bodied, full palate coverage and a long finish
Overall, a solid wine that could be easily confused for a proper Hermitage if the oak was dialed back just a bit (2077 views) | | | Tasted by Phenol73 on 8/21/2022 & rated 91 points: Dark, rich stewed berry fruits, hints of mint and eucalyptus. Quite full frontal and imposing; not what you’d call a subtle wine. Developing some tertiary notes. Unmistakably in its mature drinking window and should hold for another 3-5 years. (1754 views) | | | Tasted by rwpalmer on 6/5/2022 & rated 90 points: On opening a wonderful exotic brambly, tarry nose. Medium weight. Tannins firm but seemingly not out of place. However this oddly disintegrated over an hour two, becoming disjointed and the tannins dominating. Under vacuvin this trend continued the next evening. This took me completely by surprise as it was quite the opposite that I'd expected on the nose. a "90-" is to capture this downward trajectory. I'll try another bottle soon. (2009 views) | | | Tasted by paul6 on 4/2/2022 & rated 92 points: Lovely wine. Turning brick red at the edges. Complex flavours and nose. Still some lovely fruit of sour cherries and soft red fruits plus bacon fat on the nose. Soft tannins and a long finish 2 mins+ did open up but time drink up for me. One last bottle to drink this year. (2192 views) | | | Tasted by Rieslingfan on 3/21/2022 & rated 76 points: I cannot fathom the positive notes on this wine. I poured a glass to check the condition of the (perfectly stored since release) bottle, and it was a vanilla milkshake made with black cherry ice cream. The gloss and oak overpowered everything about the wine. Two hours later there was no change. What a shame that someone would do this to what was once a benchmark wine. (2797 views) | | | Tasted by Veg on 3/6/2022: Drank from magnum and still in a good place. (2084 views) | | | Tasted by mac-eye on 3/4/2022 & rated 93 points: Still going strong. Same notes as before. (2017 views) | | | Tasted by mcktuck on 1/7/2022 & rated 92 points: Seems to have come around since my last notes on this wine last year. Beautiful deep inky color with some red bricking beginning to show at the rim. Intensely aromatic and showing all of that classic Northern Rhone goodness--olive brine, bacon fat, cracked pepper, blue and black fruits. Full bodied, but not jammy (as I had in my note last year) with a really refreshing acidity. Still a bit of fuzzy tannins, but definitely starting to resolve.
I think this a few years of positive evolution ahead of this, but should definitely hold through 2030 or so. (2302 views) | | | Tasted by Veg on 12/21/2021: Drank side by side with the 2010 vintage and I much preferred the 2009 - much more approachable. Maybe the 2010 needed more time to breathe. (1969 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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Paul Jaboulet Aîné is one of the most prestigious producers in the Rhone, notably in Hermitage and Crozes Hermitage. The earliest record of the Jaboulet family producing wine is from 1834, and the eventual house of Paul Jaboulet Aîné remained in Jaboulet family ownership until 2006. It was then sold to the Frey family, proprieters of Ch La Lagune in Bordeaux, and numerous other vineyards.
Frey obtained the famous brand names such as Hermitage "La Chapelle" and Crozes Hermitage "Domaine de Thalabert", but not all of the vineyards historically used for producing those wines. Notably the vineyard used to produce Crozes Hermitage "Domaine de Thalabert" - a vineyard historically known as Les Grandes Vignes - was split, with part remaining under the control of Philippe & Vincent Jaboulet. Nevertheless Frey succeeded in restoring the reputation of Paul Jaboulet Aîné which had fallen away during the 1990s.
Domaine de Raymond Roure is a 3.5ha Crozes Hermitage vineyard high on the back of the Hermitage hill which Jaboulet acquired in 1996. The red now sells at a premium to Thalabert and is the wine for longer keeping.
Paul Jaboulet Aîné owns parcels of vines in several Rhone appellations both north and south, and produces an extensive range of both estate bottled and négociant wines.2009 Paul Jaboulet Aîné Crozes-Hermitage Domaine de Thalabert Domaine de ThalabertPaul Jaboulet Aîné Crozes-Hermitage Domaine de Thalabert"Domaine de Thalabert" is a brand name often misunderstood to be a specific vineyard; for example Robert Parker communicated that misunderstanding in his book. There is no lieu dit or vineyard or business called (Domaine de) Thalabert. The Jaboulets did not seem to mind this misunderstanding.
To the extent the wine has been based on a single vineyard, then for the last 50 years or so that vineyard was Les Grandes Vignes. It is a difficult vineyard, noted for its large "galets roulés" boulders. Jonathan Livingstone-Learmonth on Drink Rhone suggests that back in the 50s to 70s, wine labelled as Thalabert had a different source.
Up into the 1990s, Thalabert was the benchmark for Crozes-Hermitage. It could be a match for all but the best Hermitage, especially in its greatest years such as 1978 and 1990. But the house of Paul Jaboulet Aîné began to lose its way as the 1990s progressed, as Gérard Jaboulet retreated from managing the winemaking.
The rot had set in, and the only way to solve it was to sell up. The house of Paul Jaboulet Aîné was sold to the Frey family in 2006, owners of a portfolio including Chateau La Lagune. The sale covered the business, the winery and brand names, but did not include all of the family's vineyard holdings. The Jaboulet family kept a large part of Les Grandes Vignes, which seems to have been particularly personal to the family. They also kept some vineyards on the Hermitage hill and in Cornas.
Thalabert is no longer the most prestigious even of Paul Jaboulet Aîné's own Crozes-Hermitage bottlings. The quantity of Thalabert still available suggests that it may not be sourced entirely from Les Grandes Vignes. The situation is perhaps not transparent. But it reinforces that we should understand Thalabert as a brand, not necessarily a specific vineyard.
Philippe & Vincent Jaboulet, keeping the family winemaking tradition going, have the other part of Les Grandes Vignes. No longer able to use the old names, they market their single vineyard wine from it under the brand name Nouvelere, which means "New Era". It has not so far attained the reputation of Thalabert.
A reliable and fully documented history of the family and the vineyard is not available. The date 1834 is often mentioned in this context. But this is merely the earliest date at which there is a mention of Antoine Jaboulet as a winemaker in the local administrative records. The formal incorporation of the house of Paul Jaboulet Aîné came rather later in the 19th century. Nor is it clear Les Grandes Vignes goes back that far. On their website, Philippe and Vincent Jaboulet claim only that the vineyard has been in the family for three generations, ie from mid 20th century, not back to the 19th century.
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The first ever vineyard owned by Paul Jaboulet – purchased in 1834. Also holds the distinction as the oldest vineyard of the appellation. Considered the benchmark for Crozes-Hermitages with the ability to age for decades.
60-80 year old vines
Biodynamically farmed
Vines grown on pebbly terraces that are glacial in origin, with the bedrock close to the topsoil. These small, round pebbles store heat during the day and release it at night, providing optimum and regular maturity.
Very low yields of 25 hl/ha
Aged in French oak, 20% newSyrah Varietal article (Wikipedia) | (Wines Northwest)
Note that some producers in the Northern Rhone distinguish between simply Syrah and "Serine", the latter described as ‘an ancient clone of Syrah, the berries of which are more oval-shaped and less deeply pigmented than Syrah’ by producer Tardieu-Laurent. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###Northern Rhône Guide to the wines and appellations of the Northern Rhone Valley -
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Regional History:
Phocaean Greeks established viticulture in the Rhone as far back as 600 BC, but until the 14th century the wines were not seen outside the region. The establishment of the Avignonese Papacy (1305-1377) brought fame to the region's wine-so much so that their Burgundian neighbors to the north banned wines from the Rhone in 1446, a measure that effectively cut off trade with England and other Northern European markets for over 200 years. Stretching southward from Lyon to just south of Avignon, the Rhone produces a wide variety of wines, with the appellations north of Valence producing the least (in volume), and the towns south of Montelimar producing prodigious amounts. As in other regions, the most interesting wines come from small farms. Saint-Joseph, in the northern Rhone, extends for some distance between Condrieu in the north to Saint-Peray in the south. The reds are made from Syrah and the rare whites from Marsanne and Roussanne, and Viognier.
### 2017 vintage ###
"The first red wines already tasted in the Northern Rhône promise a beautiful vintage, with a quality close to the 2015 or even the 2009 vintage" - NEWRHÔNE MILLESIMESCrozes-Hermitage Crozes-Hermitage AOC (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône) |
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