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| Community Tasting Notes (average 89 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 26 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by FP3 on 11/24/2022 & rated 94 points: Consumed thanksgiving 2022. Very mellow and elegant Worries that it would be turned due to being well past drinking window. But I wasn’t disappointed! (1042 views) | | | Tasted by Mitch 69 on 9/9/2018 & rated 92 points: Top (4275 views) | | | Tasted by the player on 8/13/2017 & rated 91 points: Mature right Bank bordeaux with finesse, blackberries on the nose, subtle entry on the palate, very gentLe mid palate, some elegance and sweetness to the finish, medium bodied and a decently long finish. Pavie is not my favorite St Emillion but this wine showed well. Enjoyable. (5010 views) | | | Tasted by Kris G on 4/5/2015 & rated 93 points: wonderfully evolved and still drinking very well, classic style with elegance, showed best during the second day! (8140 views) | | | Tasted by Mathijs81 on 4/4/2015 & rated 90 points: Brought my last bottle to a tasting, just to check with others.
Confirmed that this wine is still drinking quite well, was enjoyed by all.
Therefore confirming again my last two notes on this one. (7810 views) | | | Tasted by Mathijs81 on 3/8/2015 & rated 90 points: I confirm my previous notes of 24/09/2014 - superb !!! (7221 views) | | | Tasted by Mathijs81 on 9/24/2014 & rated 90 points: I had high hopes for the 1995 vintage, purchased three bottles at auction quite cheaply.
Reading through below comments however, I feared for the worst.
Still - the bottle was in good condition, clean label, clearly stored well.
Nose - initially a bit bland, but improved through the evening with airing.
Flavour - still quite good ( though I cannot compare against lets say 10 years ago )
Colour - still reddish like, not yet going to the brownish colour with older wines
Conclusion - I have to disagree with the 2011 end of drinking period, though I'm fan of older wines.
This particular vintage ( if stored correctly ) can still by very much enjoyed right now !!! (5461 views) | | | Tasted by Derek Darth Taster on 1/29/2014 & rated 89 points: Drank about 2.5 hours after bottle was opened at a friend's family dinner.
Dark brown colour with bricking edges. Nose of blackcurrant and a bit of chocolate. On the palate, smooth black fruits, prunes, and leather. Velvety slightly chalky tannins. Medium finish. I feel this is already on a decline, drink up! (5190 views) | | | Tasted by Whitelion on 12/28/2013 & rated 86 points: Classical right-bank Bordeaux, well preserved, must drink now (2499 views) | | | Tasted by Corner on 12/24/2012 & rated 93 points: Superb wine with excellent balance! (3503 views) | | | Tasted by pommard1969 on 12/22/2012 & rated 91 points: wunderbar zu edlem tafelspitz. richtig reif, wird nicht mehr besser aber gut die naechsten 3 jahre. nase: eukalypthus, cassis (3359 views) | | | Tasted by dcwino on 4/1/2012 & rated 92 points: GJE CRD 2008 and EP 2011; 3/29/2012-4/4/2012 (Bordeaux, France): Fully matured, truffle, mint, sweet dry red fruits, nicely integrated tannins. A step above the 96 and the 97 which were thin and diluted. Pretty good showing. (6107 views) | | | Tasted by Rogershkg on 1/27/2011 & rated 86 points: Colour ruby, not showing sign of age. Nose leather classic Bordeaux. Medium length taste of fruit with spicy tinge. Very pleasant (4540 views) | | | Tasted by saltytowers on 1/10/2011 & rated 90 points: have had two bottles of this beauty over the last week and both were exceptional. still some time left to drink this one..but too much longer. a typical good st. emilion..when they are good they are very very good. (4583 views) | | | Tasted by eljung on 12/25/2010 flawed bottle: Already gone bad and was barely drinkable. (Editor's note: scored as 69 but changing to flawed) (3980 views) | | | Tasted by Rogershkg on 12/8/2010 & rated 86 points: Well this bottled restored some confidence. I was beginning to think this would be hopeless. However, the colour was still good tawny. The nose was not bad, leather what I would call bordeaux. The taste again still had some fruit and was not long but reasonable. I began to think that everybody was knocking this wine, but its OK (3969 views) | | | Tasted by tbabes on 6/8/2008 & rated 88 points: Commanderie de Bordeaux: I thought this was a left-bank wine, given the rather youthful appearance (we knew it was from 1995) and reluctant boquet of spice, earth and red fruits. The austerity on the palate only confirmed my suspicions; imagine my surpise to see that is was the '95 Pavie! Things have clearly changed quite a bit at this estate in the last 10 years, as the '95 bore little resemblence to recent vintages. (5656 views) | | | Tasted by noppakit s. on 1/9/2008 & rated 92 points: After 1.30 hours, it becomes a classic St.Emilion. Tight nose of typical Merlot, a bit hot vintage, strong, aggressive but good texture. Full-bodied...get along well with Cos 2000...nice but not impressed. A little bit too young.
2009 - 2018 (5259 views) | | | Tasted by Keith Cooper on 7/22/2007 & rated 90 points: I've got five of my wine drinking friends here. We thought it was very plummy, well balanced, soft tannins, good aftertaste. Typical French high class wine - made us all feel very happy. (5366 views) | | | Tasted by Keith Cooper on 6/11/2007 & rated 83 points: This is the sixth bottle from the case and we are still waiting for this to impress. Previous bottles have been unexciting, so this time I opened the bottle four hours ahead of tasting. Even so, it was still closed and lacked fruit. However, after about an hour in the glass, the nose livened up and there was chocolate and berries on the taste. I'm still not convinced this is giving good value for money. But we have 6 left and I think they will benefit from more time yet and definitely need to open well in advance. Liz's pleasure rating a disappointing 83. (5349 views) | | | Tasted by EyeDoc on 11/4/2006 & rated 80 points: Weak mid palate - I don't think this will improve much. (5748 views) | | | Tasted by peternelson on 3/24/2002 & rated 89 points: Weiner: Subtle fruits, nice hi notes; Very silky, more t’s than Lynch; licorice, cassis. A bit rustic after La Mission Haut Brion. (1794 views) | | | Tasted by bestdamncab on 3/26/1998 & rated 85 points: 14 Bordeaux from 1995 Vintage Tasted (Hi-Time Wine Cellars, Costa Mesa, Ca.): Lovely, rich, fruity, tobacco nose, nice, rich, fruity, berry taste, simple fruit, good concentration of fruit, need time. (798 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| Château Pavie Producer website - Read more about Chateau Pavie
The vineyard on weinlagen-infoRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?St. Émilion Grand Cru Les Vins de St. Émilion (Syndicate Vitocole de Saint-Emilion) – Read about St. Emilion
Vins de Bordeaux:
Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot
Soil: Sandy soils with alluvial gravel deposits
Surface Area: 4,160 ha |
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