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| Community Tasting Notes (average 92.8 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 130 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Preed on 8/21/2023 & rated 93 points: Wow. What a lovely Bordeaux especially given the vintage. Lovely pencil and tabacco flavours. Enjoy if you have it. (849 views) | | | Tasted by acyso on 4/14/2023 & rated 88 points: St. Emilion night (Chicago, IL): Surprisingly good, especially for the washout vintage. I guess not being able to push the ripeness as hard as possible meant that the estate could try and produce something a little more elegant. And for the most part, they succeeded. The oak still shows a distinct coconut/vanilla/lactone thing, and the palate is relatively hollow. But there's good acidity and grape as opposed to oak tannin. Drinks like a very nice bistro wine. (1918 views) | | | Tasted by NickP on 4/9/2023 & rated 89 points: At end of life. Not what I was hoping for rather thin and flat. Not much on the nose and somewhat acidic. Some fink which was interesting but not enough to overcome the other aspects that were not great. I hoped for more (1168 views) | | | Tasted by beej on 10/2/2022: Drinking beautifully w many years of accessibility ahead. (1640 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/18/2021 & rated 94 points: Fully developed, the wine is quite mineral-driven on the nose and palate, where you find strong oceanic, salty notes that combine with the concentrated, layers of sweet, ripe, black and red fruits, licorice, smoke and dried flower nuances. Decanted about 30 minutes prior to sering seemed to do the trick. (4263 views) | | | Tasted by davidsm on 4/3/2021 & rated 92 points: This doesn’t need much time at all - 30 minutes of air in the bottle. Already lost a bit after being open 90 minutes. In a nice place with a great nose and mouthfeel but honestly a bit underwhelmed. (2339 views) | | | Tasted by hprphf on 3/26/2021 & rated 91 points: Good for vintage, bit thin, woody nose. 91 (2243 views) | | | Tasted by mjf@ulkner on 5/23/2020 & rated 93 points: Deep purple, heavy sediment. Short decant. Ripe plum and black raspberry fruit. There is a hint of tobacco and green peppercorns on the finish. Still a bit angular, this softened a bit as the evening went on. Very good now- plenty of stuffing for further evolution. (3202 views) | | | Tasted by Mathijs81 on 2/9/2020 & rated 92 points: Little less intense then my previous bottle.
But still a great wine. No need to hold. Drink now. (3061 views) | | | Tasted by hkbbmytvsuper on 12/31/2019 & rated 93 points: Tasted on 12/31/2019 (coravin) and finished the rest on 1/18/2020. Smell nice but initially taste sour (as with all quality wines), probably need 4 hour decant to show. The wine (after decanting) has a dominant green plant smell, with a sweet, very rich taste and silkiness mouthfeel. Classic. (2609 views) | | | Tasted by jmcnewjersey on 9/30/2019 & rated 95 points: Nice green vegetal notes on nose and palate. Awesome full-bodied wine with dark fruit and rich tannins. Within the past year, have enjoyed both the 2001 & 2002; however, a bottle of 2003 was an OTT hot mess. (Sept. 28, 2019 at West Branch Angler Resort) (2674 views) | | | Tasted by peternelson on 2/23/2019 & rated 94 points: Soft, elegant, still with structure though, good purity, not too much herbal/tobacco, just right, beautifully balanced; Heritage Auction Blind Tasting at Jean-Georges Vegas after party (3256 views) | | | Tasted by rogerr on 10/12/2018 & rated 96 points: In a beautiful spot right now. Great upon open and deepend in complexity sipping over a 2 hour dinner. (2886 views) | | | Tasted by MC2 Wines on 6/24/2017: More and more I'm finding myself intrigued by some of the higher end bordeauxs - esp from the right bank. I don't know that this was a great year, but this was a great wine. Opened and decanted for a few hours and then drank over the course of maybe 5 or 6 hours with some very stiff competition. This more than held it's own (I think for some it was even WOTN). Some more herbal and earthy notes, but also good darker, maybe less ripe black fruits. Very strong combination. (4914 views) | | | Tasted by Lype on 3/15/2017: Really full bodied, big and bold, oaky, needs years of cellaring to show its best. (2090 views) | | | Tasted by Mathijs81 on 3/3/2017 & rated 92 points: Still very young, so give it couple of hours in the decanter for sure !
Upon uncorking and decanting, an amazing aroma filled the living room.
Spices, abundances of deep dark fruits, pepper, woody, burnt meat juices, etc.
Again, this is why I like Pavie and why I buy their wines !!!
Mathijs (5029 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 1/29/2017 & rated 94 points: One of the top wines of this cooler vintage is rich, concentrated and loaded with ripe, black cherry, licorice, dark chocolate, cedar and wet earth. The tannins are soft, the finish is long and the aromatics are complex. For those that find Pavie too much for their delicate senses, this is a good vintage to explore, due to its cool, weather characteristics. (5595 views) | | | Tasted by Burgnick on 1/19/2017 & rated 93 points: This is by far my favorite pavie at this point of time. It definitely needs a 90 mins decant. In a difficult 02 vintage, the wine truly stands out. Cassis, sweet black fruit, ink and perfume on the nose. The palate has depth and weight despite the weak vintage. There are a lot of underlying substance and complexity in this wine. Palate is juicy and big with balanced fruit and the right bank elegance. I feel like this has a better balance than the 98 pavie. 93+ (4863 views) | | | Tasted by kenthargis on 10/9/2016 & rated 92 points: This was a nice bottle, especially given the terrible vintage. Definitely noticed the softness and plum of the merlot. In a very good spot. Went well with steak. No need to wait any longer. Full-bodied without being too much. (4949 views) | | | Tasted by rogerr on 12/29/2015 & rated 95 points: Wine is drinking beautifully now and has many more years of interesting development. Silky tannins, still vibrant fruit, interlaced with pleasant tertiary flavors of a maturing wine. (4672 views) | | | Tasted by davidsm on 11/9/2015 & rated 92 points: I know a lot of people think this is ready to drink but this bottle clearly wasn't ready. Even after a few hour decant the wine was holding back a lot and very tight. Much better day 2 and clearly has the stuff to be outstanding but not going to touch another bottle until 2017. (4239 views) | | | Tasted by Burgnick on 10/7/2015 & rated 94 points: Wow! This is very good, much better than the 02 margaux I tried last week. Popped and poured..this is ready for business. The nose had truffle, black fruit, cigar box, vanilla, cedar wood and licorice. Palate had good depth with beautiful black fruit emerging with hint of truffle and caramel. This is drinking nicely now. (4689 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 9/4/2015 & rated 94 points: 2 hours of air brought out the chocolate covered, black cherries, truffle, licorice, cigar box and floral notes. Soft, smooth and round, but lacking the volume and opulence found in the top vintages, this is really drinking well. While 2 hours of air brought the wine around, after 4 hours of air, the wine lost its edge. This is for drinking now and over the next decade or so. (5068 views) | | | Tasted by Rezy13 on 8/18/2015 & rated 91 points: Tuesday Night Double Blind $60+ (Bin 75): Dark garnet core with crimson rim; cigar, leather, menthol, Bordeaux funk, round, plum, ripe cherry and currant, some green; nice richness, spicy, red fruit, some leather, firm tannin, tar, cigar, high toned finish, alcohol stands out a bit; still youthful; one of the better '02 Right Banks, others really liked though I felt it lacked some definition due to the modern winemaking. (4565 views) | | | Tasted by JHalvorson on 5/7/2015 & rated 95 points: We brought this bottle to La Belle Ve for your 38th anniversary. They decanted it for us. We enjoyed a glass of Chardonnay while we gave the Pavie some time to open up. The first taste was of dark cherry with hints of a forest. The last glass was very close to perfect wine. (3019 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| By James Suckling
JamesSuckling.com (3/29/2018)
(Château Pavie St.-Emilion, Red, France) Subscribe to see review text. | By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (10/13/2009)
(Ch Pavie St-Émilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. | By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, May/June 2004, IWC Issue #114
(Chateau Pavie Saint Emilion) Subscribe to see review text. | By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, May/June 2003, IWC Issue #108
(Chateau Pavie Saint Emilion) Subscribe to see review text. | By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (4/4/2003)
(Ch Pavie St-Émilion Red) Subscribe to see review text. |  By Gary Vaynerchuk
Wine Library TV, Viewers Choice Awards, Well Kinda, Episode #287 (8/3/2007)
(CHAT PAVIE) #2 (by Nick P); COLOR-dark; NOSE-smells like crap surrounded by cinnamon & plum; nice smokiness; I like it; warm 5 day old V-8 juice; TASTE-a ton of complexity; tremendous mouthfeel; very silky; nice dark pepper component, green peppers & potato peel; vegetal & coffee components; V8 juice mixed w/ coffee; bring serious THUNDER for my palate; very intriguing for sophisticated palates; it's not delicious, but I love it; great food wine (meat/mushroom dish); serious complexity; extremely long finish; RP-94; GV-93+ 93+ points |
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| Château Pavie Producer website - Read more about Chateau Pavie
The vineyard on weinlagen-info2002 Château PaviePremiers Grand Cru B
70% Merlot
20% Cabernet Franc
10% Cabernet SauvignonRed Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
Vins Bordeaux (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux)
History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanLibournais Libournais (Conseil Interprofessionnel du Vin de Bordeaux) - Read more about St. Emilion and its wines - Read more about Pomerol and its wines
Saint Emilion Grat Classified Growth, Classified Growths, Grands Crus Classes, GCC
In 1954, while the "Graves" growths had just published their own classification, the wine syndicate of Saint-Emilion, composed by wine growers, brokers and wine traders with the approval of the INAO - Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (A.O.C), decided to work on a classification for the wines of Saint Emilion. Initially, four grades were defined. These were reduced to two - First Great Classified Growth (A and B) and Great Classified Growth - in 1984.
As of Medoc's 1855 historical grading, the Saint-Emilion Great Classified Growth classification is not only based on qualitative criteria by tasting the wines on a ten years period previous to the assessment, but also on commercial considerations such as:
- sales price levels
- national and international commercial distribution
- the estate's reputation on the market
Properties who don't manage to join the club of about sixty Classified Growths are given the denomination of Great Growth ("Grand Cru"), while the remaining wineries of the A.O.C are simply reported as "Saint-Emilion". It is to be noted that the owners must officially apply to appear in the official classification. Thus for example the famous Chateau Tertre-Roteboeuf, whose quality and reputation would easily justify to be listed among the First Great Classified Growths, does not appear here by the will of its owner, François Mitjaville.
The Saint-Emilion Great Growth classification was revised in 1969, 1985, 1996 and 2006. The only two guaranteed vintage (A.O.C) who can apply to the classification are the "Saint-Emilion Grand Cru" and "Saint-Emilion" areas.
By grading 61 properties, the 2006 revision confirmed many growths from the former classification, but also caused a number of surprises and a few inevitable disappointments. Many observers thought that the impressive progression of Perse's Chateau Pavie since 1998 would be rewarded by an upgrade into the First Great Classified Growths (A) category, but finally such was not the case.
Among the estates promoted to the First Great Classified Growths B category are Chateau Troplong-Mondot and Pavie-Macquin, whose efforts made since the Nineties fully justify their new grade. It should be noted that no First Great Classified Growth was relegated to the lower Great Classified Growth class.
Promoted growths from the status of Great Growth ("Grand Cru") to Great Classified Growth ("Grand Cru Classe") are: Chateaux Bellefont-Belcier, Destieux, Fleur Cardinale, Grand Corbin, Grand Corbin-Despagne and Monbousquet.
The demoted growths from the status of Great Classified Growth to Great Growth are: Chateaux Bellevue, Cadet Bon, Faurie de Souchard, Guadet Saint-Julien, La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Belivier), La Tour du Pin-Figeac (Moueix), Lamarzelle, Petite Faurie de Soutard, Tertre Daugay, Villemaurine and Yon-Figeac. If the recent samples of some of the above mentioned properties may justify their current downgrade, there are great chances that estates like Bellevue, Tertre Daugay or Yon-Figeac will be upgraded to their previous rankings by the next revision in 2016 as the progresses noted after 2000, but not entering in the range of vintages (1993 - 2002) appointed for the criteria of selection for the 2006 classification, are noticable.
The two following estates have completely disappeared from the Saint-Emilion Grand Cru Classification: Curé-Bon-la-Madeleine (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Canon) and La Clusière (integrated meanwhile to Chateau Pavie).
Finally, no estate considered as "garagiste" has integrated the classification. Valandraud, Mondotte, Le Dome, Bellevue-Mondotte or Magrez-Fombrauge have, for the least, the potential to be ranked as Great Classified Growths. In sight of the very fine quality reached by the above mentioned estates in recent vintages as well as all the innovative wine making methods used by the "garagistes", it remains to be seen whether the authorities will dare to cross the line in 2016..?St. Émilion Grand Cru Les Vins de St. Émilion (Syndicate Vitocole de Saint-Emilion) – Read about St. Emilion
Vins de Bordeaux:
Grape Varieties: Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot
Soil: Sandy soils with alluvial gravel deposits
Surface Area: 4,160 ha |
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