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 Vintage1998 Label 1 of 30 
TypeRed
ProducerDomaine de Marcoux (web)
VarietyRed Rhone Blend
DesignationVieilles Vignes
Vineyardn/a
CountryFrance
RegionRhône
SubRegionSouthern Rhône
AppellationChâteauneuf-du-Pape

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2007 and 2019 (based on 7 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Marcoux Chateauneuf du Pape Vieilles Vignes on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 91.6 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 25 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by steinersing on 4/9/2024 flawed bottle: Corked and not much left in terms of substance even behind TCA (111 views)
 Tasted by jpbach13C on 1/18/2020: Corked. Many bottles from this vintage have been. Too bad as there is a lot there and it’s at a great stage. (2050 views)
 Tasted by Marcb123 on 12/24/2019 & rated 95 points: Intense notes of dark cherry on the nose. A bit of acidity on the palate, very long finish. Cedar Wood, Dark fruit, berries on the finish. (1835 views)
 Tasted by NoCalKid on 7/20/2019 & rated 85 points: Brought this for dinner with the Becher’s in Palo Alto at Zola’s. Pretty far gone. Had them take it away. (2061 views)
 Tasted by Munch on 11/20/2013 & rated 90 points: Chateauneuf-Du Pape, The 1998 Vintage, A 15 Year Retrospective: This came in 8th out of 8 1998 Cdp in our tasting, but it was in serious company. It didn't help it that the nose was not much more than some volatile acidity with a pruney note, some licorice and a whiff of other dark fruits. It did taste a better than that with a silky rich and thick texture and licorice and kirsch flavors and bit of a maderized pruniness. It seems like a wine that may come around with more time in bottle as that VA did start to blow off after a couple of hours in the glass. (7575 views)
 Tasted by Biglama on 12/7/2011 & rated 89 points: over 2 dagen gedronken, te eenzijdig, alcohol komt teveel door, fruitig en warm, rijpe bramen dadels, niet helemaal stabiel, mist je juiste balans om mooi te zijn. Gedronken naast de Beaucastel HJP 1995. Dan heeft de wijn het extra lastig. Komt ook niet meer goed (7656 views)
 Tasted by Zweder on 8/20/2010 & rated 92 points: Complex bouquet with at first some organic and metal smells but later also coffee. The fruit and tannin is still youthful and there is quite much sweetness. Complex, but not overwhelming. The score is more than ok and maybe I expected too much. (6795 views)
 Tasted by jkoenen on 8/20/2010 & rated 88 points: Hedonistic Diner, Part 2 (Restaurant Le Défi, Sprang-Capelle): Alcohol in the nose, dried currants, iodine, slightly oxidative? Interesting, but doesn't ring my bell. 16.5/20 (7191 views)
 Tasted by Biglama on 12/28/2009 & rated 90 points: rode kleur, wat vurige neus, gekruid, iets met port, smaak is warm en licht bijtend, krachtig en nog wat instabiel, komt nog wel goed (7041 views)
 Tasted by G SQUARED on 8/6/2009 & rated 92 points: 49th B'day at Mustard's. Thanks Cory for bringing this. 100 pt Parker wine. Deep purple color. Nose explodes with dark black fruit. The alochol level is defnitely noticeable. Not fully in balance yet in my opinion. Still needs lots of time. Tons of glycerin and a HUGE finish. (5126 views)
 Tasted by Biglama on 5/24/2009 & rated 91 points: rode kleur, niet meer zo donker, neus is kruidig en met heel donker fruit, port achtige neus, smaak is heel stevig met alles in veelvoud, goed bijtende tannines en hoog in de alchohol geven de wijn veel kracht en inhoud, echt een nip wijn, geen allemansvriend, heeft zeker nog potentie voor wat meer evenwicht (3572 views)
 Tasted by gorm on 5/22/2009 & rated 97 points: Uncorked.dk does 1998 Chateauneuf-du-Pape (and a few other gems) (Restaurant Premisse, Copenhagen): Dark slightly brown core. Sweet, acidic and slightly warm nose of berries, meat and shoepolish. Nice sweet'n'sour balance in mouth. Hung meat and loads of english licorice and herbal notes intermingles. Nice aftertaste. Once again confirms that Marcoux VV hits my sweet spot. (4687 views)
 Tasted by DAN BAILEY on 2/9/2009 flawed bottle: Utterly ruined by TCA (3658 views)
 Tasted by gorm on 11/7/2008 flawed bottle: Uncorked DK BYO - 85 Cristal Rose, 90 DRC RSV, 90 La Landonne, 82 Mouton and more... (Søllerød Kro): Corked (5079 views)
 Tasted by the godfather on 8/9/2008: very difficult too rate, as port like as any dry red wine I've ever tasted, just huge a bit alchoholic (3566 views)
 Tasted by KPB on 8/9/2008 & rated 89 points: Deep purple with a noticable amber tint and tawny rim. Nose is spicy, then black fruits, but seems a bit simple. Confirmed by the port-like impression of the wine in the mouth: stewed plums, a bit hot, a bit roasted. Not a great year for Marcoux VV (3712 views)
 Tasted by JOsgood on 8/8/2008 & rated 91 points: So massive, this made me take pause when I first tasted it. Very deep and complex but much too over the top for my taste. (3602 views)
 Tasted by DAN BAILEY on 12/8/2007: Drunk at the Jonathan Dinhl OL at St Johns. We stayed in the southern rhone for the next flight of 95 and 98 Marcoux VV. Both wines smacked of grenache much more than the clos papes on the nose. I have been lucky enough to have had the 95 several times this year and this bottle was very consistent with the others. Very red fruit dominated, elegant palate. Something I would love to sit down and savour on its own over a meal. The 98 has something of a controversial reputation but, again, showed brilliantly here. Basically, the 95 on steroids! Much darker profile of fruits with masses of cherry liquor/kirsch. Some pepper and spice in the background as well. A full throttle, in your face CNDP more in the style of a california rhone ranger. That being said, perfection in the vintage/region remains defined by the Capo, not this. (3898 views)
 Tasted by Russell Faulkner on 9/19/2005: Chateauneuf Offline (Caldesi, London): An enormous disapointment. VA in about 10 different flavours. No ripe sweet fruit which I was greatly looking forward to, no concentration. A huge shame (especially as I have a bottle). Not Rated (5231 views)
 Tasted by Eric on 2/12/2005 & rated 94 points: Rhônes and dinner with Robert Parker (Baltimore, MD): Briary and powerful on the nose. The palate explodes with raspberry and a sweet core, but next to the surreal da Capo this was overwhelmed. (11122 views)
 Tasted by Jeff W on 10/29/2004: Berlin offline
Deep ruby with prolific legs. The nose is alcoholic and aromatic. Intense, sweet, decadent fruit, with spice and sweet tannins that last forever. It's a monster. Ex (4413 views)
 Tasted by Joe Belmaati on 5/5/2004 & rated 88 points: Dark red. Very alcoholic on the nose. Also scents of sherry and madeira. Like snaps or hard booze. My abbreviated notes from the night contained the word "alcohol" four times. There is good acid and density of ripe fruit, and I can see how some people may favour this style of wine. But my fragile and gentle palate can't. Not my style at all, yet I recognize the quality of the wine. Just not for me. (4462 views)

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By John Kapon
Vintage Tastings, Hanging with Mr. Parker and Mr. Squires in Baltimore and D.C (2/21/2005)
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By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, January/February 2001, IWC Issue #94
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By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, January/February 2000, IWC Issue #88
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Domaine de Marcoux

Producer website - Read more about Domaine de Marcoux

U.S. Importer (Addt'l Info)

Owners: Catherine and Sofie Armenier (Estevenin)
Address: Chemin de la Gironde, 84100 Chateauneuf du Pape.
Tel. 490 346 743
Direct sale: Yes, but best to make an appointment.

Until the late nineties Marcoux was run by Phillipe Armenier. The bio-dynamic principles inspired by Rudolf Steiner meant very much to him. The planning of the works in the fields and the cellars was done out from the phases of the lunar cycle. In connexion with this the practice in the vineyards of course was (and stil is) strictly organic. Suddenly Phillipe Armenier left the domaine - and France. He lives today in California. Back at the domain is since then the two sisters Catherine and Sofie Armenier. They are perhaps not quite as focused on stars and planets as Phillipe but bio-dynamic principles also means a lot to them. Catherine is responsible for the fields and Sofie for the vinification. They both do it with great succes.
The Armenier family has deep roots in Chateauneuf du Pape. They can date their forefathers back to 1344.

Marcoux has 17.5 ha. One of them with white varieties. The average age is about 50 years. 5.5 ha is 90 years old. Half of these old vines are used for Vieilles Vignes. The rest goes to the classic cuvée. The vinification is traditional for the appellation with maturing mostly in foudres. The principles can be described by citing Sofie Armenier: “We interfere with the vinification as little as possible. We don’t do any pigeage to get color, because we just don’t want to get in the way of the fruit.”
From only 2 ha. is made Cotes du Rhone and furthermore a Lirac, from vineyards in this appellation, made in cooperation with Louis Canto at Domaine de la Ronciere.

Red Rhone Blend

Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.

A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce.

Vieilles Vignes

Old Vine/Vieilles Vignes (Wikipedia)

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings

2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com

Rhône

Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)

### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###

Southern Rhône

Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley

Châteauneuf-du-Pape

Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape

Another site on this appellation
Vineyards on weinlagen-info

"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker

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