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| Community Tasting Notes (average 90.2 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 21 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by Elegance on 7/23/2020 & rated 92 points: Drank alongside a 2000. Similar style to the 2000 but a little less advanced. Profile of black cherries, herbs, game and a hint of minerality. Prefer the 2000 now but think this may develop further. Slightly longer length and more intensity. Another fantastic value wine. (1187 views) | | | Tasted by LemurKing on 10/7/2014 & rated 88 points: Started musty but blew off after a few minutes.
Plenty of dark fruit and kirsche, but still some life to last the evening without worry. Not as much richness as a couple years ago, so I'd say it's starting its decline.
Good now and for the next couple years. (3078 views) | | | Tasted by Eric on 5/6/2013 & rated 93 points: The pro's give this 88's and 89's. Not even close. Kirsch and pepper, spicy herbs and cherry. This is ridiculously pure, intense and delicious Châteauneuf-du-Pape. There's a hint of port and heat that detracts a little, but this is freaking delicious stuff even if it pushes the ripeness boundary a touch. Pure pleasure juice. (4891 views) | | | Tasted by Armando B on 10/23/2011 & rated 90 points: Very nice. Mature red fruit with mushrooms and a bit of meat. Medium-to-full body, In a nice place right now. (3898 views) | | | Tasted by AllRed on 3/4/2011: Friday Night Brown Bagger (Rich & Dana's): Garnet color. Notes of stewed tomatoes, beef bouillon cubes and white pepper. Very ripe; has a stewed flavor profile. (4690 views) | | | Tasted by jamscreator on 1/23/2010 & rated 89 points: Good red bricking throughout and a lovely spice with some damp earth on the nose and palate. Medium body finish. This wine is tight, tight, tight right now. If you can hold off you'll benefit more. Very tasty. (3788 views) | | | Tasted by Bob Fyke on 7/19/2009 & rated 90 points: Light-Med body. Black cherry, some shale/earth. Good balance between fruit, acid and tannins. Not a superstar, but definitely a good value. (2372 views) | | | Tasted by InternationalWineReport on 6/28/2009 & rated 90 points: Dark cherry and currant fruit, with firm smoke, rich chocolate and kirsch notes. Sweet-tasting, with supple and ripe tannins. Slightly off balanced. - JD90 (1951 views) | | | Tasted by french16 on 2/26/2009 flawed bottle: Well I'm not sure this was properly stored cause it tasted slightly oxidized. Very granche dominated nose with a lot of ripe strawberry, cherry with meaty/peppery notes and olives. Palate was not as enjoyable because of the oxidized notes. Drying tannins. Rather classic style.
Oh well.... (1853 views) | | | Tasted by JohnSh on 12/30/2008 & rated 92 points: Had this last week, after it was open for a day. Really singing on the second day, and a real burgundian style of CDP. Nice balance, intensity and purity (A-). Love this very traditional producer. (1832 views) | | | Tasted by br on 1/23/2008: orange tinge. cherries and lots of funk (good funk). not especially complex and seems older than 7 yrs...or it is aging at a speedy rate. either way, a touch short and rough on the finish. wouldn't buy again. day 2 - fell to pieces. (1953 views) | | | Tasted by transpodude on 10/12/2007 & rated 87 points: OK, but jsut didn't love it (2222 views) | | | Tasted by jamscreator on 9/1/2007 & rated 89 points: This wine is showing much potential, but don't get over-eager like I did. WAIT! A couple more years should show a completely different side of this potentially outstanding wine. (2172 views) | | | Tasted by jim dixon on 7/23/2007 & rated 89 points: Nice, though perhaps not stored very well, as this bottle tasted tired and prematurely aged. (2194 views) | | | Tasted by Big Dog on 4/14/2007 & rated 90 points: When I opened this wine and tasted it, all could taste/smell was alcohol but had great mouth feel. The wine was obviously closed so I threw it in the decanter and drank over the next 4 hours. The wine blossomed into an old school Chateanueuf du Pape. Great mouth feel...the wine tasted of herbs, old world fruit and a nice finish. The wine seemed to be fairly tannic on exit. The wine should easily go another 5 years. (2980 views) | | | Tasted by jsokel on 3/3/2007 & rated 90 points: This comes alive in your mouth by boing bold, without being overpowering. I loved the unique spice/fruit bursting flavor that is really hard to describe. Not a very long finish, but it didn't matter since you were already wowed. Everyone that tasted it made an instant comment on how good it was. I've had both the 2003 and 2001 of this wine. Both are good, but the 2001 shines a little more. I'm sad this was my last one. (2468 views) | | | Tasted by Blair Curtis on 7/5/2005 & rated 91 points: So it has been a little over a year since I had this wine last...and it is still a beastly thing (in the best possible way!) This is really good old-school Chateauneuf. Tons of dried herbs, pepper and salt-sea air. A thing of power and structure - not the kind of size that comes from over-ripeness -but from old vines fruit made with a deft hand. I really like this producer and this wine. (3066 views) | | | Tasted by Eric on 12/20/2004 & rated 91 points: Tasted at McCarthy & Schiering. Ahh, what a difference a year makes. (I didn't realize that I had tasted this a year earlier.) This is still very tight yet so sleek and Grenache dominated. The nose alternates between kirsch and white pepper, so alluring. The palate is sleek and subtle, so polished with fine Herbes de Provence and pure cherry essence. It finishes out with nice length and dusty tannins. Very pretty! (2553 views) | | | Tasted by Blair Curtis on 6/14/2004 & rated 90 points: This thing has huge tannin, old-viney grip, steminess...and I love it. It is what I've come to expect from M. Bravay in this Ferrand. This is my third vintage buying and tasting this wine. Though it is medium-bodied, it is not for the faint of heart. It is a throwback - animale and ferocious. I think in 10 years more people will wish they had some. Underrated by Parker (88). An excellent CNdP and a style I hope is never driven to extinction by early drinking innocuous wine (can you say Pegau?) (2562 views) | | | Tasted by Eric on 12/3/2003 & rated 89 points: Tasted at McCarthy & Schiering. Tasted blind, I successfully guessed CNdP! A bright nose with piercing cherry, vibrant but a bit strange. On the palate this is very dusty with loads of garrigue, luscious. The finish is very tight showing lots of structure. Does this have a heavy dose of Syrah? All in all I found this to be very structured and tight, not yielding much and not very approachable. (2539 views) |
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Young Philippe Bravay is unquestionable one of Chateauneuf du Pape’s up and coming stars. - Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate
Bravay is now taking over the family domaine and is extremely dedicated to preserving the unique traditions and special characteristics that Chateauneuf brings to the world. The domaine is tiny, only 5 ½ hectares of which over half is on vines approaching 100 years old, all situated in the lieu-dit Ferrand. He uses organic growing techniques, limits yields strictly (his Cotes du Rhone, even, is less than 2 1/2 tons to the acre yields, and the Chateauneuf du Pape even less) and vinifies traditionally.
The Cotes du Rhone vines were planted between 1933 and 1946, and consist of 80% Grenache, 15% Syrah and 5% Cinsault. It is "a beautiful example of how much flavor, character, and complexity can be packed into a Cotes du Rhone." - Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate
The Chateauneuf du Pape is 90% Grenache, the vines ranging in age from 60 to 100 years of age, and the balance the other twelve Chateauneuf varietals. From these he obtains superb natural ripeness, usually in excess of 14%. The vinification is traditional and the aging is for the most part in large oak foudre, but also a portion in barrique, however no new oak. As great as these wines are, judging by the potential of the ’99, which was even riper, this is a domaine that’s only going to get better.
Chateauneuf du Pape focused website
Until 1995 most of the wine was sold to negociants and only a small part was bottled by Charles Bravay. Then Philippe took over and much has happened at the estate. Philippe is the 4. generation at the property and from 1997 he has bottled most of the wine under the mark Domaine Ferrand.
Chateauneuf du Pape is made from 5,5 ha. The vines producing wine for bottling at the domain are planted 1910 and 1930. Sold wine in tank is from 30-years-old vines or younger.
Bravay owns some ha. in the Cotes du Rhone area.
Although only a few will ever get to enjoy these wines as the domaine is very small (only 5 ~ ha in Châteauneuf du Pâpe and 10 in Côtes du Rhône, which over half is on vines approaching 100 years old) they are well worth the hunt.
All the vines are situated in the lieu-dit Chemin Saint Jean, the same Northern holy grail as Charvin, Beaucastel, Marcoux and La Vieille Julienne.Current custodian Philippe Bravay uses organic growing techniques and limits yields severely (his Côtes du Rhône yields less than 2 tonnes to the acre, and the Châteauneuf du Pâpe much less) vinification is traditional: open top fermenters, basket presses, and cement cuves.Following some excellent press in the past few years, these wines have started to be hoarded by trophy collectors but remain excellent value.The Côtes du Rhône vines were planted between 1933 and 1946, and consist of 80% Grenache, 15% Syrah and 5% Cinsault. It is quite unbelievable just how good these are.France's appellation laws, whilst quite brilliant, can be frustrating for some, including Philippe Bravay - a little country road acts as a separation point that prevents these vines from being able to produce Châteauneuf du Pâpe. They are fantastic Côtes du Rhônes!
Winemaking: Natural indigenous yeasts only. Maceration 'à froid' for 2 days to avoid explosive start to the fermentation. Mostly ferments at 27/28° with 30°max. Remontage morning and afternoon for 6 days of 25% of the volume of the cuve, 20 day cuvaison follows. Press wine assembled at the start. Racked once after alcoholic fermentation and again after malolactic fermentation ‚– then not touched. Prefers to keep max amount of C02 possible during elevage. Bottled in May after 20 months with no filtration but light fining. Cuvaison and elevage is all in tank (either cement or stainless steel). - Importer NoteDomaine de Ferrand Châteauneuf-du-PapeWinemaker's Notes
The Chateauneuf du Pape is 90% Grenache, the vines ranging in age from 60 to 100 years of age, and the balance the other twelve Châteauneuf varietals. From these he obtains superb natural ripeness, usually in excess of 14%. His methods are classic and the aging is for the most part in large oak foudre, but also a small portion in old barriques, however no new oak.
The reds here start off life dark fruited, juicy and succulent and will close up after 5 years before opening again to evolve into penetrating and exotic flavours of kirsch, ash, sandalwood, leather and spice; always big wines, they are the very image of their landscape hillsides of mistral battered vines growing between sun bleached stones the size of your fist. This is a wine stylistically similar to Domaines Marcoux, Charvin and Vielle-Julienne - all of whom are neighbours.Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
### Wine Scholar Guild's Rhône valley vintage charts & ratings ###Southern Rhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Southern Rhone Valley
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
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"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
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