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| Community Tasting Notes (average 88.8 pts. and median of 89 pts. in 94 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by yaanik on 12/28/2023 & rated 90 points: Tasted blind. Pleasant rum raisin on the nose, leather. On palate, loads of plum, with leather and brett. Nice juicy acidity. Impressed that this is nearly a quarter-century old! Guessed it to be R bank bordeaux with lots of Cab franc, but surprised to see it's all Cab sauv and merlot. It's definitely thinning, so wouldn't store for any longer. (869 views) | | | Tasted by GuanYu on 10/20/2023 & rated 91 points: Dark ruby red with a mix of orange and pink rim. Blackberry, blackcurrant, cedar, pencil shaving, cigar box, tobacco and spices. Wine was initially muted and flat. After breathing for 3 hours in the bottle (no decanting), nose was open and filled with bold cedar and pencil shaving found in mature claret. Palate on the other hand, was on the feminine side, with weak fruits and soft/silky tannin.
In my opinion, this wine was at prime, with elements integrated to their optimal point. Any further cellaring might upset the delicate balance the wine had achieved at time of tasting. (1618 views) | | | Tasted by Mansavage on 10/15/2023 & rated 88 points: 10/15/23 Very pleasant. The 2000s are starting to show well. Nicely balanced soft tannins. Black fruits, slightly cedar. Good length. Drink but no need to rush. Good enough for family. (1578 views) | | | Tasted by Loathesome on 9/23/2023 & rated 89 points: Very 2000 in that the colour is very deep, the fruit is plush and there is considerable extract. This was in magnum and felt like it would last another 10+ years easily. Should develop as at present only two dimensional. Impressive if a bit predictable. (1646 views) | | | Tasted by Pinder on 7/16/2023 & rated 91 points: This is above expectations. A very pleasant wine in a good place at the moment (kept in a good cellar). It will not get better.
Typical mature Bordeaux (1840 views) | | | Tasted by crinklycuteKai on 6/27/2023 & rated 97 points: Splendid! Lots of sediment that makes decanting a must. Nose does not offer a lot of hints on what will follow, but after a brief period of aeration, it is ready to drink. Would not suggest decanting any longer than 30 minutes before consumption. Initial palate presents with a light, aromatic olive note, followed immediately by ripe blackberry, pure dark chocolate bitterness that fades into a refreshing feel of toasted tobacco notes. Very tannic and astringent, aftertaste is punctuated by a touch of pepperiness in the throat, that is relieved by the indulgent firm bitterness of chocolate notes, which linger for a long time after each sip. Very complex, yet fairly smooth, with different flavors developing and varying intensities as it spent time in the glass. Seems to me to be near the zenith of its aging, but would recommend to drink now, as it definitely will go downward soon. (1341 views) | | | Tasted by michalm on 4/27/2023 & rated 83 points: Decanted 5 hours.
Smooth. Unremarkable. (1241 views) | | | Tasted by WojteG on 1/5/2023 & rated 90 points: The beginning was very promising. The cork looked like from three-year-old wine, very little sediment, the color was closer to red than brown, the smell was simply fantastic.But...
No acidity no tannins, there are all flavors, but muted and quiet. To be clear, this wine is still highly drinkable, matter of fact - my wife likes it.
Smell - wonderful aromas of tobacco, earth, red fruits, smoke. Perfect balance, where no one aroma is above others.
But I expect more from 5th Growth Classé, especially, that 2000 year vintage was simply fantastic. But...I don't blame this wine I blame myself for laziness.
If I would search more then one source I discovered then this wine in this particular year was not too much appreciated by wine critics.
89 points on average.
Anyway I won't say that my 31€ was wasted. (1787 views) | | | Tasted by Grondal on 12/29/2022 & rated 88 points: Ikke meget frugt tilbage og helt klar på vej ned. Skulle nok være drukket for en del år siden. Dog under alle omstændigheder en spændende oplevelse. Klart bedre duft end smag. Klassisk Bordeaux venstrebreds-duft med cedertræ, tobak og tjære. (1476 views) | | | Tasted by Ital_1970 on 3/13/2022 & rated 89 points: Fejlede ikke noget, men var træt og uden frugt.
Til steaken dog udemærket. (2463 views) | | | Tasted by winespine on 3/11/2022 & rated 92 points: This was delicious, showing tertiary characteristics now. A friend brought this over for a dinner party and I didn't know the producer at all. Turns out they’re a 5th growth in Haut Medoc, but relatively obscure. He double decanted it, and I believe he let it sit in the decanter for a few hours before he put it back in the bottle. The tannins are resolved and it's very smooth and elegant. It's not a mind-blowing Bordeaux, but we quite enjoyed it. I don't think it's going down, but I can't see it getting any better so if you own it, drink up. Not for those who love big, powerful, fruit forward wines. (2193 views) | | | Tasted by HG123 on 12/18/2021 & rated 89 points: Half bottle - Still a bit of blackberry but follows with leather and coffee. Really well integrated soft tannins. Enjoyable but not a show stopper (2098 views) | | | Tasted by Hanibal on 12/14/2021 & rated 93 points: Blew me away. Opened 2 bottled. this rating was for the better one. The other was 91 points. (2463 views) | | | Tasted by pa1966stang on 11/19/2020 & rated 92 points: Purchased from WineBid. Perfectly preserved cork,pristine bottle condition. Medium heavy sediment, lost 3-4oz to decanting. Fully resolved tannin and unmistakeably a Bordeaux. Leather, earth, tobacco, tar. There isn’t much fruit left here. Weak nose and short finish, but to expected from this level wine. For a Thursday night bottle I couldn’t ask for more. Only one more left in the cellar. Will be consumed sooner rather than later, not much upside potential. (2627 views) | | | Tasted by wineman of nj on 10/3/2020 & rated 91 points: Still drinking well (2037 views) | | | Tasted by floribo on 8/1/2020 & rated 93 points: Kräftig, rund, lang. Hat auch gut draußen geschmeckt. Der abgepumpte Rest war am nächsten Tag nicht mehr ganz auf der Höhe.
Update April 2023: Again a very nice experience. Very nicely embedded acidity, concentrated fruit, and a long finish. (2188 views) | | | Tasted by MJohnsen83 on 7/27/2019 & rated 91 points: Pleasent surprise, at its peak. Cool, smooth bordeaux cab with all the classic trademarks. (2979 views) | | | Tasted by jkoenen on 3/17/2019 & rated 91 points: Prime drinking. Dark fruit intermingled with maturation notes.
Very nice. (3043 views) | | | Tasted by figged on 2/27/2018 & rated 88 points: I was disappointed with this. Underwhelming I didn't even finish the half bottle. Colour bright to the edge of the glass. Seemed restrained. Perhaps I should have opened this a couple of years ago. (3786 views) | | | Tasted by cephomer on 2/6/2017 & rated 89 points: Drank in Vt. Dark, maroon in color, with clear edges. Nose of wet earth and forest. Still some black fruit, earthy, mushrooms, and some forest floor. It's peaked and ready to drink. (5144 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/23/2016 & rated 89 points: Medium bodied, firm, slightly rustic, but in a classy way, with fresh cherry, cranberry, earth and a hint of tobacco, this is fully mature. (6165 views) | | | Tasted by robvan on 10/13/2016 & rated 89 points: Nicely matured, black fruit and tannins still prominent, oak takes the upperhand. need at least another year to soften a bit more, see you back next year... (4589 views) | | | Tasted by edub7 on 6/19/2016 & rated 88 points: Purchased upon release, color still dark, but a bit maroon. Old school for sure, and has some elegance. While there is still some life, there is a too much brett showing in this bottle for me. Did not go away after 2-4 hour either. Still barnyard and funk. I like a bit more purity, though some may find it interesting. Length and complete OK enough. One thing I can say, I had the 2009 vintage for this label, and it was pretty damn good for the buck. If you have this 2000, drink up, as I fear the brett will take over the fruit even more so. Seek out the 2009. (5519 views) | | | Tasted by bobbylion on 4/6/2016 & rated 89 points: Decant DECANT... Popped and poured yesterday and it was around 86-87. Vacuum stored half a bottle for today and it is 89. Not a first-first growth of course, but I don't think this was much more than 15 euros upon release. For that it is 89+ (4219 views) | | | Tasted by Oskiwawa on 3/9/2016: Purchased and cellared since release. A low end wine that was a bargain but is at the end of it's life. Drink them up. I would pop and pour and not expect more than what it is. No real depth or character but also nothing off. (3057 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
| Château Camensac Producer website - Read more about Chateau de Camensac
Château Camensac borders on the Saint-Julien appellation, in the commune of Saint-Laurent-Médoc. The vines are located on the commune's finest gravelly rise. The topography is fairly steep and the pebby soil quite deep.
This makes for excellent natural drainage, which is complemented by a well-maintained man-made drainage system. The estate's excellent potential is fully realised thanks to a "craftsmanship" approach by the Camensac winemaking team. Each vineyard plot, each vintage, and each vat constitute a unique entity, and are treated as such. Systematic methods leaving no room for variation are avoided. The vineyards are carefully observed every day, and viticultural operations are carried out only when required, according to strictly natural criteria.
The vineyard has a density of 10,000 vines per hectare, and grape varieties are as follows: 60% Cabernet Sauvignon and 40% Merlot. The average age of the vines is quite old, which makes for reasonable yields. Only natural fertiliser is applied, and quite sparingly. Pruning is rather severe and, if need be, bunches of green grapes are removed to improve concentration. As a result, the average yield does not exceed 40-45 hectolitres per hectare, which is considerably below the usual figure for the appellation. At the end of the growing season, the vines invariably produce healthy, ripe grapes that are well-ventilated (to avoid rot). Sorting is also done at harvest-time so that only the best fruit is made into fine, great growth wine.
Careful consideration is given to the ideal date to start picking. This entails a "risk in the interest of quality" so aptly described by the eminent professor Emile Peynaud. A wine as fine as Camensac will only live up to its reputation if the grapes are sufficiently ripe to provide good extract.
The staff at Camensac are helped in their decisions by consulting oenologist Michel Rolland (who also makes his own wine!). Monsieur Rolland is closely involved with Camensac, and his experience is quite precious. He knows the vineyard very well and takes great pains to stress the importance of picking only perfectly ripe fruit. He also follows the winemaking very closely.Red Bordeaux BlendRed Bordeaux is generally made from a blend of grapes. Permitted grapes are Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot, Malbec and rarely Carménère.Today Carménère is rarely used, with Château Clerc Milon, a fifth growth Bordeaux, being one of the few to still retain Carménère vines. As of July 2019, Bordeaux wineries authorized the use of four new red grapes to combat temperature increases in Bordeaux. These newly approved grapes are Marselan, Touriga Nacional, Castets, and Arinarnoa.
Wineries all over the world aspire to making wines in a Bordeaux style. In 1988, a group of American vintners formed The Meritage Association to identify wines made in this way. Although most Meritage wines come from California, there are members of the Meritage Association in 18 states and five other countries, including Argentina, Australia, Canada, Israel, and Mexico.France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comBordeaux Bordeaux Wine Guide
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History of Bordeaux
History of 1855 Bordeaux Classification
"2009 is all about ripeness, with wines impressively packed with ripe fruit and high alcohol levels. They are showy, in-your-face, and full of pleasure. The 2010s have the fruit and alcohol levels of the 2009s, but with a compelling freshness on the finish that balances the fruit and provides a perfect sense of structure." - Ben Nelson
"2016 is a landmark vintage in certain spots of Bordeaux and it should be remembered as one of the most inspired campaigns of the last 40-50+ years." -Jon Rimmerman
"The quality of red Bordeaux in 2016 was universally lauded – although the response to the en primeur campaign was muted. Quantity was high too, with the equivalent of 770 million bottles of wine produced. An exceptionally dry summer with cool nights eventually, thanks to mid September rain, resulted in small, thick-skinned, ripe grapes, and the wines are marked by high tannin and acidity, with superb aromatic fragrance." - Jancis Robinson
"2017 was complicated, but there are some excellent wines. Expect plenty of freshness and drinkability from wines that will offer excellent value, and others that will rival 2016 in terms of ripeness and ageability. But they are likely to be the exception not the rule, making careful selection key." - Jane Anson
"In the past, a vintage such as 2022 may have been overripe, raisined and low in acidity but 2022 had a sneaky little reservoir in its back pocket - a near perfect marriage of cool/cold/rain the previous winter and the previous vintage that literally soaked the soils (a key to why 2022 is not 2003...or 1893)." - Jon RimmermanMédoc Vins du Médoc (Conseil des Vins du Médoc) - Read More about the Medoc
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The eight precisely defined appellations of the whole of the Médoc (from Blanquefort Brook to the north of the Bordeaux built-up area, almost to the Pointe de Grave) may claim the Médoc appellation. But there is also a specific territory in the north of the peninsula which produces exclusively wines with this appellation. In the great majority, the Médocs come from the north of the peninsula. The great individuality of this region is that the number of vines has increased more recently here than elsewhere, apart from a few isolated spots where vines have grown for many years. Today, the size of the small estate has brought about the development of a powerful co-operative movement. Four co-operatives out of five belong to the group called Unimédoc which ensures aging, bottling and marketing a large proportion of their wines.Haut-Médoc Read more about Haut Medoc and its wines Long-standing fame The legally created division into Médoc and Haut-Médoc dates from 1935. But as long ago as 1815 a Chartrons broker, whose word carried weight, spoke of great red wines in the Haut-Médoc, so recognizing the high quality successfully achieved by this region's growers in the eighteenth century. The same Bordeaux broker revealed that the business world of the Chartrons and the great Bordeaux proprietors had established a sort of league-table of the parishes in which the vine-growing communes of today's Haut-Médoc appellation showed up well.
The Haut-Médoc appellation stretches over some thirty seven miles from north to south, from Saint-Seurin de Cadourne to Blanquefort. Within this area, certain zones produce wines exclusively with the Haut-Médoc appellation. It has terroirs of remarkable quality. And although we may note a certain predominance of layers of gravel (essentially Garonne gravel) from the Quaternary, all these sites are characterized by their wide diversity. Today in the southernmost communes of the appellation, the suburbs of Bordeaux, numerous vineyards which existed at the beginning of the twentieth century have disappeared, victims of urban expansion. But the vines live on... because man has retained his devotion to them.
The astonishing variety of different terroirs, the result of the very extent of the area, explains the diversity of Haut-Médoc wines, a fact which is rare within one and the same appellation.
But, over and above the differences, linked to this mosaic of climatic and geological influence, all these wines have the same family traits of character.
Alert and lively, full-bodied without being too powerful, and harmoniously balanced, they acquire a rare bouquet over the years.
In order to have the right to the Haut-Médoc appellation of controlled origin, red wines must:
- come from the communes of Blanquefort, Le Taillan, Parempuyre, Le Pian, Ludon, Macau, Arsac, Labarde, Cantenac, Margaux, Avensan, Castelnau, Soussans, Arcins, Moulis, Listrac, Lamarque, Cussac, Saint-Laurent de Médoc, Saint-Julien, Pauillac, Saint-Sauveur, Cissac, Saint-Estèphe, Vertheuil, Saint-Seurin de Cadourne "excluding all the parcels situated on recent alluvium and sand on impermeable subsoils",
- satisfy precise production conditions : grape-varieties (Cabernet-Sauvignon, Cabernet-Franc, Carmenère, Merlot Noir, Petit Verdot, Cot or Malbec), minimum of sugar (178 grammes - 6.27 oz. - per litre of must) degree (an acquired 10°5) base yield (48 hectolitres per hectare).
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