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| Community Tasting Notes (average 92.6 pts. and median of 93 pts. in 160 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by TMacpherson on 4/20/2024 & rated 98 points: We loved this wine. Perfectly balanced and smooth. Layer after layer of flavors. We could drink this every night. Outstanding. (177 views) | | | Tasted by NostraBacchus on 4/13/2024 & rated 93 points: Halleluja. After a bunch of flawed bottles, I finally got a good one again, this time from Magnum. Notes of red and darker berries, some meat, roasted bone marrow, also some pepper and spices, and garrigue. It‘s pretty full-bodied, with good persistence, has medium acidity and some lower-medium tannin. There might be a touch of volatile acidity, but it‘s in check and not as dominant as in some of the last bottles. Good lenght. Very good CdP. (315 views) | | | Tasted by WinoRick on 4/6/2024 & rated 89 points: Acidic and tight. Purchased on release and stored in a temperature controlled cellar. Running it through an aerator helped a bit. (288 views) | | | Tasted by ogres3 on 3/3/2024 & rated 92 points: Wonderful full-bodied wine. #2 in wine tasting behind an Outpost cab and essentially tied with a '13 Reva. Lots of fruit, integrated, fairly smooth. (434 views) | | | Tasted by BerkeleyBoy on 1/17/2024 & rated 95 points: Excellent! $83 at auction and worth it. Full of flavor without any distractions. I will seek out other vintages. (495 views) | | | Tasted by buckeye76 on 11/18/2023 & rated 94 points: Ruby red color. Black raspberries, blueberries, currants, plums, dark chocolate, and licorice, with hints of floral and herbalness in the nose. Lots of concentrated red and black berries in the flavor. Very nice mouthfeel, full bodied, complex, medium+ acidity and a long finish. (650 views) | | | Tasted by devraj on 9/1/2023 & rated 92 points: Garnet brick in color. Beautiful aromas of red berry liquor, spicecake, lavender, herbs and hint of forest floor. A medium to full bodied palate reveals sweet crushed red berries, baking spices, medium (-) acidity, and a long herbal/fruity finish. I had low hopes for this 2007 - but this was quite good. Perhaps serving it slightly cooler helped as well. (725 views) | | | Tasted by king-bing on 8/3/2023: Bought at the domaine in 2009 and stored in cool basement or wine fridge since.
An overwhelming disappointment. This was tired, baked, stewed, short and simply monstrously dull. A glass was consumed, the rest went into the cooking. I don't think this was faulty, but rather another victim of 2007 in Chateauneuf, much like 2003 or (to some extent) 1998. A wine to be drunk while young for all it's exuberant and OTT energy. (764 views) | | | Tasted by Lype on 6/8/2023: Dark toned nose with ripe fruit. The palate is ripe and very fruit forward, filled with dark chocolate, kirsch, raspberries, spices, umami, flowers (violets), red cherries, hints of garrigue and orange. No oak. Mellowed tannins, lowish acidity but the fruit has freshness despite the ripe character and this carries the wine nicely. Big round aftertaste. Enjoyable and drinking well now. To some this probability is a bit too much with the stewed type of fruit and high alcohol. (825 views) | | | Tasted by wine4ever on 2/8/2023: From our cellar. Full bodied, very concentrated fruity flavor. Lots of red fruits and berry flavors which gives it sweetness, and a touch of orange. Hints of meat & herbal notes are in the background, but not much. The Grenache really shines through. High alcohol, but it's not noticeable. Super smooth mouthfeel. Delicious now and should be for a least another 5-10 years. Will try our next bottle in 3-4 years, if I can wait that long. :) (1007 views) | | | Tasted by Zweder on 12/15/2022 & rated 91 points: Very ripe dark cherries and red berries as well as balsamic acidity in the bouquet. On the palate juicy, with herbs, meaty, a lot of sweetness, concentrated and mature. There was a slight –not disturbing- sparkle as well. Mature and beautiful wine. (1164 views) | | | Tasted by Vancouver on 6/11/2022 & rated 95 points: Medium ruby in appearance with very little lightening- impressive color for a CDP at age 14+.
Pronounced and evolved (and exotic) nose of blueberry and blackberry liqueur, baking spice , smoked meats and other savory elements. Very impressive nose , especially for fans of the style.
Full bodied on the palate, with excellent flavor concentration and mouthfeel. Still plenty of structure belying the reputation of 07 as being "cooked. The finish is long.
Overall very well done with no signs of fatigue , but with Grenache one never knows, so I would drink up!
PS- this bottle was purchased on release and was stored under proper condition ever since. (1636 views) | | | Tasted by StoneRidgeCellars on 5/28/2022 & rated 95 points: Mike brought over. Beautiful aroma of dark fruit and mild earthy tone, well smooth tannins and silky smooth texture throughout long finish. Great example of aged CDP. (1497 views) | | | Tasted by devraj on 12/12/2021 & rated 93 points: Dark ruby with light bricking. Superb aromas of dark cherries, garrigue, licorice and hint of camphor. Lush and silky palate shows crushed sweet-tart dark cherry compote, savory pepper, medium (-) acidity, melting tannins and a long floral and licorice finish. (1914 views) | | | Tasted by GreggPacc on 10/31/2021: Flawed.. effervescence (1871 views) | | | Tasted by rm97 on 8/31/2021 flawed bottle: So disappointed with this wine. Several bottles have the effervescence that others have mentioned. Not sure if it was bad transport/storage or something else. Annoying and a waste of money. (1934 views) | | | Tasted by mmh on 8/4/2021: Not much development since my last bottle 18 months ago. Smokey, full bodied and intense. Not as fruity as when younger. Unfortunately some alcohol pushing through. I think I will try to save my two last remaining bottles for a few more years to see where this is going. (1711 views) | | | Tasted by #1 or #2? on 7/8/2021 & rated 92 points: my last of a half case... lots going on here. nose is fresh, lots of red and dark berry fruit, herbal, mint, pepper, spice. palate is smooth, silky, sweet notes swirl, mild acidity, and some pleasant tannin. there is an ever-so-slight bitter note on the finish (i've noted it in the past as well), but other than that, this is absolutely lovely. best showing yet. (1658 views) | | | Tasted by 309VEB on 2/3/2021 & rated 85 points: This bottle did not show well. Expecting much more based on recent reviews. Stewed fruit on the nose and on the initial taste. Finish was OK. Finished the bottle on day two and the stewed fruit and prunes had settled down so an improvement but nothing special. One bottle of this vintage left so i am hoping for a better experience. (1890 views) | | | Tasted by cnichelson on 1/30/2021 & rated 98 points: Frank over two days. And drank over about 48 hours. Kirsch black cherry and tapenade on the nose. Soft on the palate and lots of mouth coating dark fruit with leather and spice. Really wonderful and no need to wait. Would have rated 100 but seemed to lose a little then gain it back over night one then the next day you felt the heat a little and some fruit had faded. But superb even then (1805 views) | | | Tasted by tomlee on 1/13/2021 & rated 94 points: Crimson in color. 14.5% ABV. Sublime nose of red fruits, licorice and garrigue. Medium body with ample acidity. Notable balance. Exceptionally rich and concentrated. Kirsch liqueur, raspberry compote, strawberry and roasted herbs on the palate. The finish on the wine is exquisite. This bottle is light years ahead of the same bottle five years ago. I don't really recall many bottles that improved so markedly with time in the cellar. Best over the next 3-5 years. (1750 views) | | | Tasted by Musigny1955 on 10/21/2020 & rated 92 points: {Bought on release, PopNPour over evening} Lush, full fruited, lots of kirsch, good body and length; despite the ripe year, no hint of heat or alcohol. Drinking very well now. (2173 views) | | | Tasted by rm97 on 10/13/2020 & rated 94 points: Way better than last bottle. No effervescence.
Huge length. Maybe 45-60 seconds. Think it will actually get better . Still not quite in balance - seems a little alcoholic still but this will die down. Could be awesome in a few years (1862 views) | | | Tasted by Jeff Leve on 10/13/2020 & rated 95 points: The nose, with its licorice, cherry, black raspberry, herb and wild strawberry profile is beautiful. On the palate, the wine is rich, full, deep and with darker fruit than expected. Lush and long, with ample, silky, ripe, but not overripe fruit in the finish, this is in its sweet spot. (2373 views) | | | Tasted by ClaytonDave on 10/2/2020 & rated 93 points: Still needs a decant to fully open. Black cherry on the palate . This is ready, but give it some time to open up. (1492 views) | | | Only displaying the 25 most recent notes - click to see all notes for this wine... |
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Vinous, January/February 2009, IWC Issue #142
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| Domaine de Ferrand Read more about Domaine de Ferrand
Young Philippe Bravay is unquestionable one of Chateauneuf du Pape’s up and coming stars. - Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate
Bravay is now taking over the family domaine and is extremely dedicated to preserving the unique traditions and special characteristics that Chateauneuf brings to the world. The domaine is tiny, only 5 ½ hectares of which over half is on vines approaching 100 years old, all situated in the lieu-dit Ferrand. He uses organic growing techniques, limits yields strictly (his Cotes du Rhone, even, is less than 2 1/2 tons to the acre yields, and the Chateauneuf du Pape even less) and vinifies traditionally.
The Cotes du Rhone vines were planted between 1933 and 1946, and consist of 80% Grenache, 15% Syrah and 5% Cinsault. It is "a beautiful example of how much flavor, character, and complexity can be packed into a Cotes du Rhone." - Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate
The Chateauneuf du Pape is 90% Grenache, the vines ranging in age from 60 to 100 years of age, and the balance the other twelve Chateauneuf varietals. From these he obtains superb natural ripeness, usually in excess of 14%. The vinification is traditional and the aging is for the most part in large oak foudre, but also a portion in barrique, however no new oak. As great as these wines are, judging by the potential of the ’99, which was even riper, this is a domaine that’s only going to get better.
Chateauneuf du Pape focused website
Until 1995 most of the wine was sold to negociants and only a small part was bottled by Charles Bravay. Then Philippe took over and much has happened at the estate. Philippe is the 4. generation at the property and from 1997 he has bottled most of the wine under the mark Domaine Ferrand.
Chateauneuf du Pape is made from 5,5 ha. The vines producing wine for bottling at the domain are planted 1910 and 1930. Sold wine in tank is from 30-years-old vines or younger.
Bravay owns some ha. in the Cotes du Rhone area.
Although only a few will ever get to enjoy these wines as the domaine is very small (only 5 ~ ha in Châteauneuf du Pâpe and 10 in Côtes du Rhône, which over half is on vines approaching 100 years old) they are well worth the hunt.
All the vines are situated in the lieu-dit Chemin Saint Jean, the same Northern holy grail as Charvin, Beaucastel, Marcoux and La Vieille Julienne.Current custodian Philippe Bravay uses organic growing techniques and limits yields severely (his Côtes du Rhône yields less than 2 tonnes to the acre, and the Châteauneuf du Pâpe much less) vinification is traditional: open top fermenters, basket presses, and cement cuves.Following some excellent press in the past few years, these wines have started to be hoarded by trophy collectors but remain excellent value.The Côtes du Rhône vines were planted between 1933 and 1946, and consist of 80% Grenache, 15% Syrah and 5% Cinsault. It is quite unbelievable just how good these are.France's appellation laws, whilst quite brilliant, can be frustrating for some, including Philippe Bravay - a little country road acts as a separation point that prevents these vines from being able to produce Châteauneuf du Pâpe. They are fantastic Côtes du Rhônes!
Winemaking: Natural indigenous yeasts only. Maceration 'à froid' for 2 days to avoid explosive start to the fermentation. Mostly ferments at 27/28° with 30°max. Remontage morning and afternoon for 6 days of 25% of the volume of the cuve, 20 day cuvaison follows. Press wine assembled at the start. Racked once after alcoholic fermentation and again after malolactic fermentation ‚– then not touched. Prefers to keep max amount of C02 possible during elevage. Bottled in May after 20 months with no filtration but light fining. Cuvaison and elevage is all in tank (either cement or stainless steel). - Importer NoteDomaine de Ferrand Châteauneuf-du-PapeWinemaker's Notes
The Chateauneuf du Pape is 90% Grenache, the vines ranging in age from 60 to 100 years of age, and the balance the other twelve Châteauneuf varietals. From these he obtains superb natural ripeness, usually in excess of 14%. His methods are classic and the aging is for the most part in large oak foudre, but also a small portion in old barriques, however no new oak.
The reds here start off life dark fruited, juicy and succulent and will close up after 5 years before opening again to evolve into penetrating and exotic flavours of kirsch, ash, sandalwood, leather and spice; always big wines, they are the very image of their landscape hillsides of mistral battered vines growing between sun bleached stones the size of your fist. This is a wine stylistically similar to Domaines Marcoux, Charvin and Vielle-Julienne - all of whom are neighbours.Red Rhone Blend Read about the different grapes used to produce red and white Rhone wines
On CellarTracker, Red Rhone Blend is the term for a wine consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.
A 'food' wine. Lacking pretension and intended for local consumption with local cuisine. Lacks the 'high' notes on a Bordeaux, more earthy and sharper so often a better partner to meat dishes with a sauce. France Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)
Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings
2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.comRhône Guide to the wines, wineries and appellations in the Rhone Valley The Rhône Valley/Le Vins de la Vallée du Rhône (Comité Interprofession des vins AOC Côtes et vallée du Rhône)
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Châteauneuf-du-Pape Châteauneuf-du-Pape Appellation - Read more about Chateauneuf du Pape
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"As I have written many times in the past, the sweet spot for drinking Châteauneuf du Papes is usually the first 5-6 years after the vintage. Then they seem to go through an adolescent, awkward, and sometimes dormant stage, only to re-emerge around year 10-12, where the majority of wines are often fully mature. The best of them will continue to hold on to life (but rarely improving) beyond 15-20 years. It is only the exceptional Châteauneuf du Papes that will evolve for 20-25+ years, and those are indeed a rarity. However, things may be improving dramatically in terms of the longevity of Châteauneuf du Pape, although Grenache-dominated wines, the vast majority of wines produced in the appellation, are wines that do not have the polyphenol (extract and tannin) content of top Cabernet Sauvignons, Merlots, or Syrah-based wines. Nevertheless, the younger generation in Châteauneuf du Pape has taken seriously the farming in the vineyards. There are more organic and biodynamically run vineyards here than in any other appellation of France. The yields, which were already low, are even lower today (20-35 hectoliters per hectare), and of course, the proliferation of top luxury and/or old-vine cuvées gives a significant boost to the number of wines that will evolve past 25 or 30 years. The advantage of these wines is their broad window of drinkability." - Robert Parker
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