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| Community Tasting Notes (average 89.2 pts. and median of 89 pts. in 24 notes) - hiding notes with no text | | | Tasted by DaleW on 12/21/2022: Citrus and apple, nice acids, just enough sugar to balance the acids and match with the applesauce. In a good place, not the most complex, but really good. B+ (334 views) | | | Tasted by DaleW on 3/8/2022: Drinking well, good acids without sharpness, lime fruit with petrol and anise accents. Good finish with slatey minerality. Not super complex, but very satisfying. B+ (560 views) | | | Tasted by DaleW on 8/23/2021: In a very good place, slatey and citrusy, just a hint of petrol. Nice acidic balance. Going to start working through these. B+/B (682 views) | | | Tasted by winchester-xi on 2/2/2021: Wide open and delicious. The classic amalgamation of lemon/lime fruit, slate, and tangy acidity, with a white flower and licorice nuances showing as it warms. Just a hint of petrol aromas. Good presence and decent length. No rush, but drinking really well right now. (782 views) | | | Tasted by Winevestor on 1/29/2021 & rated 89 points: Great wine. Good example of Kabinett. Good acidity, well integrated, grapefruit and citrus. Medium mouth feel. Not too complex. Great drinking (760 views) | | | Tasted by footloosiety on 12/15/2020 & rated 93 points: Still so good (876 views) | | | Tasted by Winevestor on 11/9/2020 & rated 89 points: A beautifully made wine. Totally integrated, with good acidity. Drinking well and will last longer. A little muted, some would say subtle. Nice grapefruit hit. (541 views) | | | Tasted by Wawamu on 1/12/2018 & rated 93 points: When I think of summer... (1276 views) | | | Tasted by Jay Hack on 5/22/2016 & rated 90 points: Outstanding example of a German Kabinett. Floral nose. Citrus and white fruit palate with ample acidity to balance the very limited sweetness. I disagree with the prior CT note that says it is on the sweet side. There is a laser sharpness that cuts through the sugar and makes the sweetness much less important as part of the overall taste profile. I have always liked Kabinetts because they are not too sweet while having a bit of hedonistic sugar.
We drank this while making a dinner for 125 people from the family homeless shelter in White Plains. The cooking crew took a five minute break and a bunch of us polished this off with some ripe cheddar and emmenthaler. The acidity cut through the oil in the cheese just right. A real crowd pleaser, and not in a negative way. (2422 views) | | | Tasted by footloosiety on 11/8/2014 & rated 88 points: A benchmark german riesling. On the sweeter side, with a subtle fruit taste. Very nice. (2896 views) | | | Tasted by footloosiety on 10/24/2014 & rated 88 points: A benchmark german riesling. On the sweeter side, with a subtle fruit taste. Very nice. (2735 views) | | | Tasted by skifree on 10/20/2014 & rated 90 points: Drank this wine over the course of 4 days while just recorking and storing in my cellar. Kept getting better and better. Had the first night with Asian stir fry, where I thought it was good but a touch disjointed. By the 4th night, it was all integrated, and had the stone fruit, mineral, weight, and balance I think of with Prum. (2881 views) | | | Tasted by zscheiner on 5/12/2014: Whiff of petrol that blows off before too long. Classic kabinett weight and flavors, mix of ripe and tart apple, white peach and a cool, stony finish. Not showing any development yet but in a nice place. (2661 views) | | | Tasted by Papies on 5/18/2013 & rated 87 points: Saturday night at The Papies (The Papies, Elizabeth St, London): Lovely aromatic nose, light harmonious. Petrolly notes of course and a nice ripe fruit feel. Pare notes, light lemon on the palate. A few "harsh" notes however on the palate,light bitter feel especially on the finish spoil the harmony and flow of the wine. Quite a bit of acidity. Effectively this out of balance acid, bitter feel spoils the ever light, dancing on the palate feel that we look in a cabinet. 87 (2837 views) | | | Tasted by Xavier94 on 3/5/2012 & rated 90 points: Showing some halmark yeast, but this fades pretty quickly after opening as there is a lovely white flower perfume coupled with wet slate aromas. Rich and vivid on the palate, almost like biting into a fresh peach. Seemingly less nervy today than many '08s as there is so much deep, complex (almost lush) fruit that is just beginning to come to the foreground. All of this buffers the structure even at present. This should be singing in a few years. 90+ (2313 views) | | | Tasted by Mivvy on 11/13/2011 & rated 89 points: Intensely floral nose, some lemon. A touch of spritz, sweet on entry, perfect weight, sweet fruit, ripe pear and then showing more citrus and minerality as it moves through the palate and finishes long with cleansing acidity. (2405 views) | | | Tasted by DaleW on 6/11/2011: Quite approachable for young Prum, only a bit of sulphur (though I am not very sensitive ). Peachy fruit, slate, good acids, but didn't truly excite. B (2312 views) | | | Tasted by herberto on 5/27/2011 & rated 89 points: Nice intensity of fruit a touch of fizz nice acidty. (2385 views) | | | Tasted by ews3 on 2/14/2011 & rated 89 points: clear medium(-) intensity lemon color. medium(-) inttensity nose shows lemon, green apple, and pear notes. medium(-) bodied palate is off-dry and had medium(+) acidity. the fruit flavors from the nose got a little flat on the midpalate. finish is pleasant and returns some of the fruit character, but is only med(-) in length. (1992 views) | | | Tasted by wickedwax on 8/1/2010: young young young. reductive sulfur aromas that took a long time to blow off. after 3 days and some vigourous swirling, it started to show itself with beautiful lime, flower and slate aromas. on the palate, elegantly balanced juicy acidity with citrus and apple flavors that show slate through the fine finish. a definite keeper that will require plenty of patience. (2155 views) |
| By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Jun 2009, Issue No 8
(Joh. Jos. Prüm Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett) Login and sign up and see review text. | By Jon Rimmerman
Garagiste (7/7/2009)
(BERN-BADST Kabinett JJ PRUM) 2008 JJ Prum Dear Friends, Held to the highest standard, the portfolio from JJ Prum must over-deliver in every vintage - I am happy to report, the low pradikat 2008's are among the finest wines Manfred Prum has produced since the 2001's. In a nutshell, the 2008 vintage is one for lovers of Kabinett and Spatlese. Auslese exists but it was not easy going at the high sugar levels. The vintage shines a very bright light on Kabinett (as it did in 2007) but the 2008's are more taut and nervous than the 2007's, without the slightly dreamy quality to the best 2007 wines. 2008 is a vintage that will be preferred by classicists and terroir lovers as each vineyard really shows itself all the way to the trocken and GG wines. If you are a fan of 2001, 2004 and 2007 White Burgundy, the 2008 Mosel vintage shows a similar transparent hand with a deceptive streak of brute power woven through the nervous middle. Where 2005 and 2006 are for lovers of Auslese and above, 2007 and 2008 have provided the type of Riesling that Mosel lovers have been waiting patiently for - rocky, citric and shimmering with a palate cleansing property that is the true essence of German Riesling. Vintners such as Olivier Haag and Johannes Selbach let out a big sigh of relief when discussing 2008 - the common phrase is something like "It's about time!" Normally, we would focus on the JJ Prum Spatlese and Auslese but not in 2008. While the 2008 Spatlese wines are fabulous from this house, the entire range of Kabinett steals the show and all are well worth your exploration (and then some). While not inexpensive, compared to Donnhoff and other producers that have crept up in price, I am quite confident in making a very strong recommendation with all three wines below. Ideally, it would be best to compare all three in a side-by-side situation but each will certainly sparkle on its own. All are VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: 2008 JJ Prum Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett 2008 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Kabinett 2008 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett Thank you, Jon Rimmerman Garagiste Seattle, WA Germ1299 Germ1298 Germ1297 |
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| Joh. Jos. Prüm Producer website | Importer website | More information on Prüm Goldkapsel wines
Manfred Prüm runs one of the Mosel’s, if not the whole of Germany’s, most revered and respected Estates. It is also amongst the most enigmatic as no-one has yet made it down to his mysterious cellars. Manfred is certainly one of the world’s more eccentric wine producers and a tasting in his drawing room with him is always enjoyable and entertaining. In the Sonnenuhr of Wehlen he owns a portion of one of the Mittel Mosel’s top vineyards. Its steep south-facing dark slate slopes tend to result in deeply flavoured, mineral yet rich and smoky wines. In addition, he manipulates some plots in the next door Himmelreich of Graach which produces engaging wines with fresh acidities that are slightly softer and earlier maturing. These are unashamedly classic, exciting and long-lived wines produced predominantly in stainless tanks to avoid the addition of too much sulphur, though a small proportion of wooden casks are retained, however, depending on the vintage. They are bottled later than most Mosel and often take a few years in bottle before showing the true character, but patience will be rewarded!
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It may be of help to users of this site if the AP number is recorded with every tasting note. The producer makes several essentially identical AP number bottlings separately registered, however. Thus, the standard bottlings need not be identified in the head of the article but any differences between AP numbers can thus be noted in the tasting write-ups.
This is one of the houses where, except for very tiny extra-late or auction bottlings, the AP numbers have little meaning, so there is no reason to have many different identities to several of what are the same wine--just makes the information harder to access. This is one of the very few houses that I'd argue this way. jhtRiesling Varietal character (Appellation America) | A short history of Riesling (Uncork) | Riesling (wikipedia)KabinettLowest must sugar content of Prädikat designation resulting in light wines, typically semi-sweet with crisp acidity.Germany Wines of Germany | The Association of German Prädikat Wine Estates (VDP) | How to read a German wine label | Geographical Information Down to Single Vineyards
#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)Mosel Saar RuwerStarting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)
Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info
#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise
#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve
#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017
#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016
#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015
#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015 |
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