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 Vintage2012 Label 1 of 48 
TypeWhite
ProducerZilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) (web)
VarietyRiesling
DesignationKabinett #4
VineyardSaarburger Rausch
CountryGermany
RegionMosel Saar Ruwer
SubRegionn/a
Appellationn/a

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2015 and 2027 (based on 10 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Kabinett on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 90.6 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 46 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by JonathanP on 4/22/2023 & rated 91 points: Great stuff. Lemon, grapefruit, orchard fruits, slate, honeysuckle. Sweetness is balanced with focused acidity. Drink now with some air, but should hold for at 5-10 years. (728 views)
 Tasted by WEB,III on 4/24/2022 & rated 93 points: Spectacular with whitetail venison sausage. (1314 views)
 Tasted by JonathanP on 1/16/2021 & rated 92 points: Drinking beautifully right now. Orchard fruits, slate, lemon zest. Very harmonious. Drank well over 2 days with no hint of oxidation at all. Lovely stuff. (1748 views)
 Tasted by Frede84 on 12/21/2020: Love this! Ton of exotic fruit.
Great now, but no rush. (1567 views)
 Tasted by Puteljen! on 10/7/2020 & rated 91 points: Classic kab. Fresh, well balanced. Lime and lemon over chalk and stone. No maturity yet. Could perhaps wish for a bit more definition to the fruit. Drink or hold. (1421 views)
 Tasted by NoTrollingerPlease on 8/27/2019 & rated 88 points: Glass: Zalto Universal
Drunk over 4 days from open bottle.
Clear, pale-medium lemon color. Clean, medium intense, youthful-developing nose with wonderful aromas of exotic fruits, citrus zests, blended with mineral notes and some light hints of petrol. Very fresh and it gets even better over days.
Off-/medium-dry. In contrast to my previous note, I missed the raciness of the acidity. On the palate ripe exotic fruit and very fine mineral notes that both lingers for a long time on the palate. Very balanced, very juicy and joyful to drink. I am only missing a bit the vibrancy and tension. Great Saar Kabinett that is still very young but in a very joyful phase at the moment. Potential for at least 10+ years. 88-89+ (2155 views)
 Tasted by lquam on 6/29/2018 & rated 89 points: Nose of lanolin and peach blossoms. Still showing good acidity with passion fruit, yellow peach, and tangerine on the palate with some flint notes. Very good concentration and viscosity, but not the usual motor oil character of Ziliken Rausch rieslings. (2637 views)
 Tasted by rc@ughey on 6/3/2018 & rated 90 points: Hyper-drinkable with bright acids and well-balanced exotic fruits and apples. A touch simple but super tasty. (2443 views)
 Tasted by NoTrollingerPlease on 11/15/2017 & rated 91 points: Glass: Riedel Vinum Riesling
Drunk over 4 days from open bottle.
Clear, pale-medium lemon color. Clean, medium intense, youthful-developing nose with wonderful aromas of exotic fruits, citrus zests, blended with mineral notes and some light hints of petrol. Very fresh and it gets even better over days.
Off-/medium-dry with a vibrant and racy acidity that, combined with the low alcohol of only 8% abv, makes this wine so wonderful and dancing on the tongue. On the palate ripe exotic fruit and very fine mineral notes that both lingers for a long time on the palate. Very balanced, perfect combination of sweetness and acidity. That’s how I like Zilliken! Great Saar Kabinett that is still very young but in a very joyful phase at the moment. Potential for at least 10+ years. 91+ (2607 views)
 Tasted by NoTrollingerPlease on 7/27/2017 & rated 90 points: Just some brief notes: Enjoyed with my father. Bottle was empty within less than one hour which is usually a good sign for quality.
This wine makes so much joy to drink, because it has the right balance of fruit, acidity and sugar with only 8% of alcohol. But you can easily underestimate this wine as well, because it is so easy to gulp down the throat without taking the time it deserves. If you take the time you can notice its complexity, its fine balance of fruit, acidity and minerality and its quite long, lingering and very elegant and fine finish. Still very young with great potential for further development and a very good PQR. (2893 views)
 Tasted by David_K on 10/23/2016 & rated 88 points: This is a decent, down-the-middle Mosel Kabinett from 2012, but a little disappointing for a top producer. To take one example, this is not even close to the 2012 Prum GH Kabinett. It is also quite a bit behind the 2012 Willi Schaefer GH Kabinett. It is fairly sweet and has good freshness, but lags well behind Prum and Schaefer in depth, dimension, and overall palate presence. (3448 views)
 Tasted by tadams66 on 9/20/2016 & rated 91 points: Charming and very refreshing. Green apple with some tropical fruit and plenty of acidity. The only issue is that it is a little too sweet. It definitely has plenty of acidity and will last many years. No rush to drink this but wonderful now. (2931 views)
 Tasted by mmh on 2/16/2016 & rated 91 points: This is still very young, but great as usual! Fresh, intense, complex, refreshing, long and simply very enjoyable! (1397 views)
 Tasted by rc@ughey on 1/13/2016 & rated 91 points: Delicious and dangerously drinkable and refreshing. Vibrant green apple notes blend well with slate and bright acids. Light as a feather and impeccably balanced. Perhaps a touch sweet. (3941 views)
 Tasted by JohanPe on 6/27/2015 & rated 88 points: Consistent with previous note. (4338 views)
 Tasted by JonathanP on 6/23/2015 & rated 91 points: The nose and palate are drenched with Granny Smith apples and slatey minerality with some lime and cinnamon. Great wine - true it's a little sweet for a kab, but there is excellent freshness and focus to provide balance. (3892 views)
 Tasted by JohanPe on 3/28/2015 & rated 89 points: Tropical fruit, perfectly balanced sweetness. Pineapple, white melon and vanilla on the palate, nothing out of place. Dangerously drinkable. Would've liked more acidity on the palate to bring that extra energy. (3475 views)
 Tasted by njgolfer on 1/30/2015: #Rieslingfeier

Nose: stone fruit, wet stones
Palate: tropical notes, papaya, mango, balanced but not a powerful acidity, more gentle, hints of crystallized sugar and mango (3044 views)
 Tasted by mmh on 1/26/2015 & rated 91 points: This is very young still, but very enjoyable nevertheless. Great, refreshing acidity which balances the sweetness well. Intense on the palate with lots of yellow fruits (apples?). (1609 views)
 Tasted by sawira on 10/31/2014 & rated 92 points: Ap #04. Beautiful light body to go with the residual sweetness. This is zippy, filled with tension and very long. I think this will be remarkable in a decade. (3102 views)
 Tasted by DaleW on 8/17/2014: Lots of sugar, more Spat than Kab, but with nerve and verve. Limey citrus, green apple, taut finish. A-/B+ (2962 views)
 Tasted by indiscriminate palate on 7/11/2014 & rated 91 points: Next to the Merkelbach Urgluck that is a Spatlese but drinks like a Kabinett, this is a Kabinett that drinks like a Spatlese. Rich apple acidity, lots of sweetness, a rich, juicy apple and lime fruitiness. Yum. (2896 views)
 Tasted by silton on 6/3/2014: I preferred this on the colder side -- more verve, doesn't show its sweetness as much (as others have noted, this is closer to Spatlese than classic Kab), and the young nose can power past the cold. Good length on the multifaceted finish. 90-91. (3154 views)
 Tasted by BordeauxBuff on 6/2/2014 & rated 90 points: Consumed over the course of two days. Beautiful notes of apricot and citrus. Not as concentrated as other wines in this price range. Lost some acidity and brightness on day 2. Overall, good example of a 2012Mosel Kabinett. (2823 views)
 Tasted by indiscriminate palate on 5/24/2014: Lime, green apple, a bit of that chalkiness I get from Zilliken, high acid, and a medium finish of lime. As everyone else has mentioned, this is of (nearly) Spatlese sweetness and richness, but very well-balanced with acid and not at all heavy. Very nice. (2280 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Joel B. Payne
Vinous, December 2013 (12/1/2013)
(Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Kabinett) Subscribe to see review text.
By Jean Fisch and David Rayer
Mosel Fine Wines, Vintage Report 2012, Review by Estate - Part I, Issue #22 (7/1/2013)
(Geltz-Zilliken Saarburger Rausch Riesling Kabinett) Login and sign up and see review text.
By Jancis Robinson, MW
JancisRobinson.com (6/6/2013)
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By Michael Schmidt
JancisRobinson.com (4/28/2013)
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By Michael Schmidt
JancisRobinson.com (4/28/2013)
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By John Gilman
View From the Cellar, Mar/Apr 2013, Issue #44, The 2012 German Vintage: A Throwback Vintage of Beautiful Ripeness, Zesty Acidity and Virtually No Botrytis
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Wines of Germany | The Association of German Prädikat Wine Estates (VDP) | How to read a German wine label | Geographical Information Down to Single Vineyards

#2014 Vintage Notes:
2014 Vintage Report by Terry Theise
2014 Vintage Report by Wine Spectator
"My gut still tells me the Saar (and to some extent) the Ruwer are better overall in 2014 than the more storied areas of the Mosel proper, but those that spent the requisite time living in their middle-Mosel vineyards made some of the most electric and "feathery" Riesling in a long time (maybe the finest in 20 years - yes, it's true!)" - Jon Rimmerman (Of course only a very short historical memory would call the Saar and Ruwer less 'storied' than the middle Mosel - jht)

Mosel Saar Ruwer

Starting in 2007 the German wine authorities have changed labeling laws to rename all of the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wines to just "Mosel." This puts this and other database driven sites in a difficult spot, as millions of old wine label reflect the former labeling. As described here, CellarTracker has elected to remain with the old labeling for a number of years to avoid confusion. At some point we will switch over to just "Mosel" but not for a few years at least.
Mosel WeinKulturland (Moselwein e.V.)

Detailed geographical information at weinlagen.info

#2018 Vintage Notes:
"Acid levels are relatively low throughout Riesling-growing Europe (acidification will once again be permitted in Germany – no surprise, as that’s been the case in eight of the last 10 vintages); but because malic acid was baked off or degraded by relentlessly balmy weather means, what acid remains is overwhelmingly of the efficacious tartaric sort. Extract levels are low, as one would anticipate from a growing season during which relatively little moisture was coursing through the vine’s roots and shoots. [...] Everyone is astonished how there could have been so much juice despite the drought." - David Schildknecht
"2018 is a homogenous vintage with a very high general level, below which it seldom falls [...] It leads with blossom. It is perhaps 80% delicious and 20% fascinating." - Terry Theise

#2017 Vintage Notes:
"not so friendly towards light wines" - Milkmansteve

#2016 Vintage Notes: "Overall, 2016 is a charmer of a vintage with much immediate ripe and fruity appeal, not unlike 2011 (in fresher) or 2007 (in lighter). However, 2016 is far from being homogeneous, in fact it is composed of a mosaic of vintages, a result of the freakish growing conditions. Hidden inside the vintage, there are true gems with the balance of 1997, one of the best vintages ever, 2002 or even 2008. The bulk of the harvest was brought in with refreshingly moderate sugar levels. Overall, the Saar and Ruwer produced slightly fresher wines than the Middle Mosel but there are great differences between Estates. The good harvest conditions allowed for some Auslese, little BA and even TBA wines, but some remarkably pure and fruity Eiswein.
In general, 2016 offers the opportunity to acquire Riesling with great immediate ripe appeal: The vintage is a true charmer. At the top, 2016 is one of the most exciting and elegantly balanced vintage since the 1990s and well-worth stocking up for cellaring! In particular, we urge our readers to literally plunge onto the finest Kabinett and Spätlese: These are some of the most exciting and classic we have ever tasted. 2016 looks also set to become a major vintage for dry Riesling, provided the aromatics are not overripe. Lovers of dessert wines will find much to love in 2016 as the Auslese are pure and the Eiswein are gorgeously fruity. They should however also keep an eye open for the remaining stunning noble-sweet wines from 2015 which are still available here and there." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 36, July 2017

#2014 Vintage Notes:
"The heterogeneity of the 2014 vintage carries over onto the aging process. The top wines start to close down, as one would expect from these wines which are a remake of those from the 1990s. The wines affected by gin, saffron and mushroom flavors are still comparatively open and offer a not unattractive Scheurebe styled fruit opulence. We would opt to drink up these lesser wines except for the odd bottle and bury the little treasures of the vintage deep into the cellar." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 30, March 2016

#2013 Vintage Notes:
"The fruity-styled 2013 wines have firmed up significantly since last year and start to show signs of closing down, making the underlying acidity seemingly sharp and out of balance. The better dry wines have come out of their early armor of smoke and tannin but the acidity may prove quite challenging. Quite frankly, except for some smaller bottlings, this is a vintage to lay down and wait." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2012 Vintage Notes:
"The 2012 wines have put on some flesh and go through a 'fattier' phase which is not unlike what the 2007 went through at the same period. However, the zestier acidity cuts through this 'weight' and makes the wines thoroughly enjoyable at this early stage. In particular the fruity Kabinett and Spatlese as well as the off-dry and dry wines offer much pleasure. We expect these wines to close down over the coming year or two. Enjoy while it lasts!" - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2011 Vintage Notes:
"A bit to our surprise, the 2011 wines have shut down and go through a quite difficult and muted phase now. Their low acidity combined with their maturity makes them feel rich, opulent and often bulky, and thus not really enjoyable. We expect that these will need at least a decade to integrate their sweetness and gain in harmony. The only exception is the dry wines, whose low acidity makes for great food companionship." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2010 Vintage Notes:
"After a mellower period in 2012, many 2010 wines have firmed up and developed a stronger smoky side. However, most continue to shine through their fruit opulence, structure and deliciously zesty but ripe acidity. This suits in particular the off-dry bottlings, which have more charm than the legally dry wines. Will these wines close down? Actually, the softening acidity makes us wonder now but it also provides further evidence that these wines will turn out harmonious after all." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

#2009 Vintage Notes:
"Most 2009 wines have closed down, which accentuates their round and soft side forward. Many can still be quite enjoyable but the times of primary fruit with its attractive aromatic expression and a generous acidic kick are now over. Except for the dry wines, we would definitely recommend keeping your hands off any bottle in your cellar and possibly buying more wines from this vintage on the market as these are true gems in the making." - Mosel Fines Wines, No. 27, March 2015

 
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