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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 20 
TypeRed
ProducerSaintsbury (web)
VarietyPinot Noir
Designationn/a
VineyardToyon Farm
CountryUSA
RegionCalifornia
SubRegionNapa / Sonoma
AppellationCarneros
UPC Code(s)732458041372

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2013 and 2018 (based on 22 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Saintsbury Pinot Noir Toyon Farm on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 88.7 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 26 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by Earl Taylor on 8/24/2022 & rated 85 points: Past it’s prime. Still ok. (245 views)
 Tasted by matiasox@gmail.com on 2/5/2022 & rated 91 points: Not what I was expecting based on the previous bottles. Aromas: cranberry, strawberry, tobacco, cinnamon. Palate: cranberry, strawberry, some earthy tones, vanilla, cocoa, cinnamon. Smooth, easy to drink, full body, great pinot. (317 views)
 Tasted by matiasox@gmail.com on 7/14/2021 & rated 91 points: Continues to develop beautifully. Primary aromas: balsamic, salty meat, mushrooms, leather, ripe black currant. Meat stew, sage. It’s velvety, smooth, mainly earthy at this point with subtle plum. (443 views)
 Tasted by Earl Taylor on 2/27/2021 & rated 91 points: Strong showing. Good on its own or with food. (719 views)
 Tasted by matiasox@gmail.com on 12/24/2020 & rated 90 points: Earthy, more toned down from the last bottle I had. The acidity is present on the palate, plums, mushrooms, velvet tannins. (588 views)
 Tasted by Earl Taylor on 8/26/2020 & rated 92 points: Robust, fruity, good with food. Not a typical Pinot. (715 views)
 Tasted by Bigdaddy5 on 8/8/2020 & rated 88 points: Bought on Vivino sale. I think they emptied the cellar of this vintage because it’s not getting better and the corks are failing. Anyway, I found after a 90 minute decant this is one of the better pinots I’ve ever had. (572 views)
 Tasted by matiasox@gmail.com on 8/5/2020 & rated 90 points: Musty cooking spices, earthy, and mushrooms on the nose. Full body, not much fruit taste, maybe mellow plum- just a touch of acidity. Thick and velvety. (473 views)
 Tasted by joet626 on 12/14/2013 & rated 89 points: Full of dark plum fruit. Very good. (1884 views)
 Tasted by smphelps on 2/3/2013 & rated 89 points: Served alongside the LWC 2010 Aubaine, this was the more precise elegant offering that showed a cold steely edge. Drying dusty tannins detracted a bit from the cherry, red raspberry, strawberry fruits. Medium finish. (1957 views)
 Tasted by winelovr2001 on 10/20/2010: a bit sweet for me...suprising since Saintsbury pinots are normally pretty conservative. There was some definate sweet tannins on the finish that were distracting. (2539 views)
 Tasted by 1800kidney on 4/10/2010 & rated 92 points: Gevrey style, masculine pinot...deep color, real presence, plenty of tannins at this point so be patient. Cherries and raspberries in nose, good finish and mouthfeel...bit stemmy on this tasting; 14.5% alcohol in control, not hot or over-extracted (2443 views)
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By Allen Meadows
Burghound, October 2010, Issue #40
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Pinot Noir

Varietal character (Appellation America) | Varietal article (Wikipedia)
Pinot Noir is the Noble red grape of Burgundy, capable of ripening in a cooler climate, which Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot will not reliably do. It is unpredictable and difficult both to grow and to vinify, but results in some of the finest reds in the world. It is believed to have been selected from wild vines two thousand years ago. It is also used in the production of champagne. In fact, more Pinot Noir goes into Champagne than is used in all of the Cote d'Or! It is also grown in Alsace, Jura, Germany, the U.S., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Romania, Switzerland, Austria, Croatia, Serbia, Italy, and so forth, with varying degrees of success.


Pinot Noir is one of the world's most prestigious grapes. It is very difficult to grow and thrives well in France, especially in Champagne and Burgundy. Pinot Noir thrives less in hot areas, is picky on soil, and deserves some oak storage.

Pinot Noir, or Blauburgunder / Spätburgunder in German, is a blue grapevine - and, as the German name suggests, the grape comes originally from Burgundy in France.

The grape, which thrives in calcareous soils, is used primarily for the production of red wine, and it is widely regarded as producing some of the best wines in the world. The wine style is often medium-bodied with high fruit acidity and soft tannins. It can be quite peculiar in fragrance and taste, and not least in structure - which may be why it is referred to as "The Grapes Ballerina".
Pinot Noir is also an important ingredient in sparkling wines, not least in champagne since it is fruity, has good acidity and contains relatively little tannins.
The grape is considered quite demanding to grow. The class itself consists of tightly packed grapes, which makes it more sensitive to rot and other diseases.

Pinot Noir changes quite easily and is genetically unstable. It buds and matures early which results in it often being well ripened. Climate is important for this type of grape. It likes best in cool climates - in warm climates the wines can be relaxed and slightly pickled.
In cooler climates, the wine can get a hint of cabbage and wet leaves, while in slightly warmer regions we often find notes of red berries (cherries, strawberries, raspberries, currants), roses and slightly green notes when the wine is young. With age, more complex aromas of forest floor, fungi and meat emerge.

In Germany, Switzerland, Austria and Hungary, it often produces light wines with less character. However, it has produced very good results in California, Oregon and New Zealand.

With its soft tannins and delicate aroma, it is excellent for white fish, chicken and light meat. For the stored wines you can serve small game. Classic duck breast is a matter of course, a Boeuf Burgundy and Pinot Noir are pure happiness.

Pinot Noir loses quality by over-harvesting.
Pinot Noir is prone to diseases, especially rot and mildew. Viruses cause major problems especially in Burgundy.
Pinot Noir are large round grapes with thin skins. Relatively high in alcohol content. Medium rich tannins and good with acid.
As a young person, Pinot Noir has a distinctly fruity character such as raspberries, cherries and strawberries.
A mature Pinot Noir, the taste is different. Cherry goes into plum and prune flavors. It smells of rotten leaves, coffee, moist forest floor and animal wine. This must be experienced.
In warm climates you find boiled plum, some rustic, little acid.
If the grapes are over-grown, the wine will be thin, with little color and flavor.

USA

American wine has been produced since the 1500s, with the first widespread production beginning in New Mexico in 1628. Today, wine production is undertaken in all fifty states, with California producing 84% of all U.S. wine. The continent of North America is home to several native species of grape, including Vitis labrusca, Vitis riparia, Vitis rotundifolia, and Vitis vulpina, but the wine-making industry is based almost entirely on the cultivation of the European Vitis vinifera, which was introduced by European settlers. With more than 1,100,000 acres (4,500 km2) under vine, the United States is the fourth-largest wine producing country in the world, after Italy, Spain, and France.

California

2021 vintage: "Unlike almost all other areas of the state, the Russian River Valley had higher than normal crops in 2021, which has made for a wine of greater generosity and fruit forwardness than some of its stablemates." - Morgan Twain-Peterson

Napa / Sonoma

SONOMA: The Yorkville Highlands AVA, approved in 1998, is located in the southwestern corner of Mendocino County, between Sonoma County's Alexander Valley to the South and Mendocino County!s Anderson Valley to the North. The region is 25 miles long, roughly in the shape of rectangle and bisected by Highway 128 which runs the length of the AVA. The region!s terrain is hilly and forested, with elevations ranging from 1,078 to 2,442 feet above sea level.
The distinguishing features of the Yorkville Highlands AVA are rocky soils with a high gravel content and the climate, which is cooler than Alexander Valley but warmer than Anderson Valley, and significantly cooler at night than the surrounding areas.

Carneros

Straddles the southern ends of Napa & Sonoma Counties.

 
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