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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 47 
TypeRed
ProducerBodega Numanthia (web)
VarietyTinta de Toro
DesignationTermes
Vineyardn/a
CountrySpain
RegionCastilla y León
SubRegionn/a
AppellationToro
UPC Code(s)081753814113, 817538141118

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2019 (based on 16 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Numanthia Termes on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 89.7 pts. and median of 90 pts. in 162 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by MindMuse on 2/13/2024: So, I don't always write notes about wines, but this one kind of was getting in my head and I thought I should do so on it because it was a bottle pretty much buried in long term storage for some reason, and I assumed well past it's window, but it turned out to be a bit of a conundrum. As it turns out maybe CT Forum pal forceberry had a similar circumstance about one year ago.
I had several bottles of this vintage Termes, 7 of 8 of which were consumed over a decade ago. Big, juicy, flashy wine that was good but tannic and oak/fruit robust, that is now tamer and resolved, also good, but just different in its gestalt. Has a more tired oak waft to it, but still nice quality fruit with savory earthy under layers. Different, probably personally preferable now, though not honestly better per se. Still, surprising it wasn't disjointed or some type of mess, which is kind of what I was expecting when I opened it. Honestly, pretty good, and fully consumed after several hours. And still 90-91-ish. (143 views)
 Tasted by forceberry on 2/27/2023 & rated 90 points: 100% Tinta del Toro aka. Tempranillo, Aged for 16 months in second use barriques. 14,5% alcohol.

Luminous, somewhat translucent black cherry color that is still surprisingly youthful for the age. The nose feels fragrant sweetish and slightly evolved with aromas of black cherries and perfumed floral nuances, some boysenberries, a little bit of dried figs, light blueberry tones, a lifted hint of ethery VA, a developed touch of meat stew and a whiff of mocha oak. The wine feels rich, juicy and quite robust on the palate with a full body and intense, ripe flavors of dark plummy fruits and licorice, some old leather tones, a little bit of woody oak spice, light meaty notes of game, a developed hint of raisiny fruit and an evolved touch of savory umami. The overall feel is tactile and chewy in texture, but also packing quite a bit of structure with its moderately high acidity and ample yet very ripe and moderately resolved tannins. The finish is juicy, dry and quite warm with some tannic grip and a moderately long aftertaste of wizened red plums and dried figs, some woody notes of oak, a little bit of licorice, light raisiny tones, a hint of earth and a sweeter touch of toasty oak spice.

A rich, big and textural Toro that is a very big in its own right, but feels surprisingly well-proportionate and balanced in a tasting of Termes, Numanthia and Termanthia. Having tasted this wine almost exactly ten years ago, there are some obvious things that have changed over this time: the wine doesn't feel as big and in-your-face than 10 years ago, so the overall feel isn't as heavy and the acidity manages to cut through much better. The tannins have also resolved quite a bit: in its youth the wine was massively tannic and pretty grippy, whereas now the tannins are much less grippy and mainly contribute to the rich texture of the wine. Fruit-wise the wine has developed some tertiary complexity, but ultimately I'm not sure if the wine has turned into something more interesting; in its youth the wine was very rich and bold with very vibrant fruit, maybe showing even more depth and nuance, whereas now the flavors are lacking that intensity, and while showing more tertiary characteristics, I'm not sure if there is any additional complexity. It seems the wine has evolved, but not really improved. This is a different wine from what it was ten years ago, but not necessarily better. I wondered why the producer says this wine has aging potential for five years, but I guess now - in retrospect - it makes some sense. (948 views)
 Tasted by mwneil on 1/8/2023 & rated 93 points: Cork was dry and broke but the wine was fresh and delightful, dark color, good fruit, smooth tannins, low acid but balanced with some complexity, drank with paella with chicken, chorizo, shrimp and steamer clams, easy drinking, 14.5% abv, onto another vintage, a decent value, wine could have become grapey but it never did. (648 views)
 Tasted by CheviotCellar on 2/18/2022 flawed bottle: Unfortunately this was corked. Cork fell apart on way out and had a musty bandaid smell. Tried decanting overnight and TCA smell is still there, though interestingly not so much in the taste (tried a small sample). Still though, the wine is way off and poured down drain. This bottle was free, included with a large order. (1308 views)
 Tasted by norsktorsk on 1/2/2022 & rated 93 points: this is very nice and drinking well. still with lots of life (1401 views)
 Tasted by redtooth113 on 10/9/2021 & rated 88 points: Deep ruby. On the nose esp at first there was a pleasant gamey smell, like a butcher’s shop. Also black fruit and thyme. There’s been plenty of time but the tannins aren’t very smooth I don’t think this will continue to evolve in the bottle at this point. Sturdy wine but new world oriented and a bit of a fight. (1410 views)
 Tasted by Winevestor on 11/9/2020 & rated 89 points: Started off OK. Big fruit wine, feels more like a new world wine. But went down hill fast. After a couple of hours the wine had thinned out and become bitter. So if you have this, drink it up and drink it quickly! (1714 views)
 Tasted by spv on 9/6/2020 & rated 91 points: In a great place. Super enjoyable. (1553 views)
 Tasted by Kentw on 8/16/2020 & rated 91 points: The wine has progressed further. Full-bodied, mixed black and some red fruits, some olive and black tea notes as mentioned by others, rich mouthfeel with good structure and a long finish. Intensity has backed off and makes it much more approachable. 91+ (1195 views)
 Tasted by KaupCava on 8/9/2020 & rated 92 points: Dark black fruit nose. Dark cassis, black tea, olives, and tobacco. Well balanced with lengthy finish (1128 views)
 Tasted by spv on 6/2/2020 flawed bottle: Corked - but could tell that there is a very nice wine underneath. Looking forward to the next bottle. (1146 views)
 Tasted by Ridgerunner on 4/15/2020 & rated 92 points: Consumed with some fairly spicy food... but this wine stood up to it and dominated. Sturdy Spanish wine with a sense of place! (875 views)
 Tasted by CorkTaint69 on 4/12/2020 & rated 91 points: Deeply savory, the nutiness associated with reductive chardonnays (think walter scott, chateau de la maltroye, evening land), cola, caramelized wheat (deeply toasted sourdough), then the typical aged tempranillo background of stewed strawberry and thyme. I love it. It's huge, powerful and delicious. Second bottle of this that I've had in the past two months; both were very similar. I'd drink this soon. It has a couple years of life left in it, but if you want it to hold up to grilled meat (which this wine deserves), drink it soon. (810 views)
 Tasted by Kentw on 4/9/2020 & rated 90 points: Full-bodied, bold, solid structure and it is still quite intense. Acidity is still present with a long finish. It has lots of life left. (801 views)
 Tasted by Ridgerunner on 9/30/2019 & rated 91 points: enjoyable, but it didn't shake the earth for me as a fan of Spanish wines (1059 views)
 Tasted by Kentw on 2/12/2019 & rated 90 points: Similar to last few notes from 2015-17. Still quite intense after 11 years. Better with food. (1203 views)
 Tasted by beatles on 12/23/2018 & rated 91 points: Still young. spice, Spanish, firm, fersh, dark fruit, good acidity, some sweetness from the warm spice. Went very well with pork. (1453 views)
 Tasted by lewisrise on 4/28/2018 & rated 93 points: Decanted 2 hours. Nose of raspberry and cedar. Soft tannins and medium finish. Raspberry and spice with chocolate on the finish (1700 views)
 Tasted by Ridgerunner on 12/20/2017 & rated 92 points: This is a great wine of Spain (1849 views)
 Tasted by swade on 10/4/2017 flawed bottle: Funk, cola, sweat and raisiny aromas. Almost port-like. Rich, but more funk. Almost some VA like acetone. Very odd and on edge. I'm going to spare this a score and mark it as flawed. It's either flawed or awful. (2069 views)
 Tasted by Kentw on 3/18/2017 & rated 91 points: Dark, rich and intense sums it up. Smooth with age and quite full bodied. Coming into a good stage right now with some spice in mid palate, still fresh with a bold presence and the tannin having softened and balanced. Can be cellared for few more years but quite good now. Interesting how this wine changed for a few years in mid stream (2014-2015) (2571 views)
 Tasted by Tim Heaton on 1/8/2016: decanting fool nailed it. I'd add that this is deftly structured, medium-bodied and chock full of earthy, ferrous and yes, chocolaty aromas. Very nice with pulled, smoked pork and slaw. The 14,5% abv is fully resolved, the tannins, thin and sweet. Drink thru 2019. recommended

PnP, served non-blind. This got even better by the 2nd glass. (5379 views)
 Tasted by Kentw on 11/22/2015 & rated 90 points: Full bodied, very intense with primarily mixed black fruits. Mild tannins, strong acidity and a long finish. Changed character from a year ago. Now more balanced and mouth filling in texture but intensity can be a a bit much for some. (4263 views)
 Tasted by df1962 on 5/24/2015 & rated 91 points: PnD let air for 2hrs. Dark dense purple with violet rim. Smoky tarry plum and blackberry confiture on the nose with lavender licorice and espresso notes. Medium weight with velvety tannins. Ripe black and blue fruits with herbs licorice and espresso flavours. Rich and complex with finesse. Drinking very well at this point. Nice with grilled rack of lamb. (4823 views)
 Tasted by danielbleier on 3/15/2015 & rated 92 points: WOTN for me, makes me think the last bottle I had was an anomaly...singing with flavors of blackberry, dark plum, tar and a touch of mint on the finish. (4927 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Josh Raynolds
Vinous, September/October 2010, IWC Issue #152
(Bodega Numanthia-Termes Termes Toro) Subscribe to see review text.
By Richard Jennings
RJonWine.com (4/9/2012)
(Bodega Numanthia Toro Termes) Dark ruby color; tart currant, red berry nose; light-medium bodied, tart currant, red berry, hibiscus palate with medium acidity; medium-plus finish  87 points
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Bodega Numanthia

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2008 Bodega Numanthia Toro Termes

What is it with scraggly survivor grapes? It seems that the older they get and the more droughts, pestilences, and disasters they have been through, the better wine they make. The way old vines keep working is one of the magic elements of wine for me. I love the notion that I am experiencing the collective history of a particular place.

The vines that produced this wine are old vine Tempranillo, anywhere from 70 to 100 years old, and the hardy survivors of the phyloxerra outbreak in the early part of the century that wiped out most of the grapes in the Toro region of Spain. They sit on the sandy, well drained benches above the south bank of the Duero river at an elevation of 2300 feet.

The Toro region of Spain lies on and around the Duero in the North-central part of the country, very close to the upper right hand corner of where Portugal pokes in. Toro is adjacent to the Rueda region, and is known for its big red wines based on Tempranillo which is locally called Tinto del Toro. The Wine Spectator has called this region "...one of the last unexploited patches of superior grape growing terroir in Europe, with decades-old vines and a mature winemaking culture."

When they say mature, they aren't kidding. Bodega Numanthia Termes, an estate owned by Dominio Eugren (who also owns several other well known Spanish estates), is a family run winery that has been making wine in Spain since the mid 1800's. Bodega Termes has chosen to name this wine and this vineyard site Numanthia, after the local people of Numancia, who in the first century B.C. held off the (grossly larger) invading Roman army for 20 years without being conquered. This perseverance in the face of danger mirrors the survivalist grape vines, and seems a fitting (and pretty cool sounding) name for the wine.

All of the grapes for this wine were hand picked and hand sorted with an exacting level of detail, then lightly crushed in whole clusters. Bodega Termes keeps yields at an incredibly low level, usually around 1.5 tons per acre. After a 28 day maceration (mixing of the skins and the juice after fermentation), this wine undergoes secondary (malolactic) fermentation in new French oak and is aged 19 months. It is bottled without fining or filtration of any sort.

This wine is widely regarded to be one of the top few, if not the best wine made in this appellation.

Food Pairing:

Tempranillo is a very food friendly varietal even in its most "bordeaux-like" expression in this wine. It will pair with most any meat, and unlike some Cabernets or Merlots, it will stand up to some spice as well. Try it with portugese sausage sandriches with peppers, onions and olives.

Spain

Vinos de España - Wines of Spain (Instituto Español de Comercio Exterior) | Wikipedia
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Spain is the third largest wine producing nation in the world, occupying the majority of the Iberian Peninsula with vast diversity in climate, culture, and of course, wine. From inky, dark reds of the [Priorat] to dry, white Finos from Andalusia, Spain can easily boast of elaborating a wide variety of notable styles. Within Spain there are currently 62 demarcated wine regions, of which a handful have gained international recognition: [Rioja], Priorat and [Ribera del Duero]. Yet these regions are only a small sample of the high quality wines Spain produces. Regions such as Cava, Penedes, Somontano, Galicia, Rueda and Jerez are only a few of the numerous regions worthy of exploration throughout Spain. Spain can also lay claim to having the most land under vine in the world, growing up to, by some accounts, 600 indigenous varietals of which Tempranillo is their most well known. Other popular varietals include [Garnacha], Bobal and Monastrell for reds and for whites; the infamous [sic] Palomino Fino grape which is used in the production of sherry wine, Pedro Ximenez in Montilla Morilles, Albarino used in the creation of the bright, effervescent wines of Galicia, and Verdejo in Rueda. - Source: - Catavino.net

Spain is not in the forefront of winemaking for its dessert wines, other than for its sweet wines from Sherry country including the highly revered Olorosos (when sweetened). But apart from Sherry Spain has a range of styles of dessert wines, ranging from the those made from the Pedro Ximenez grape primarily in Jerez and Montilla-Moriles) to luscious, red dessert wines made in the Mediterranean from the Garnacha (Grenache) grape. Some good Moscatels are made in Mallorca, Alicante and Navarre. The northwest corner of Spain, Galicia, with its bitter Atlantic climate, is even making dessert wines, called “Tostadillos” in the village of Ribadivia (similar to France’s “Vin de Paille”). The Canary Islands have made interesting dessert wines for centuries (they are mentioned by Shakespeare, for example) and in recent years the quality of winemaking has been improved and the Canary Islands wines are being better marketed now. The winemaking styles for “Vinos Dulces” are also diverse, from “Late Harvest” (Vendimia Tardía) to “Fortified Wines” (Fermentación Parcial). Based on in-spain.info.

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