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Berry Bros 2008 Rhone tasting

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Tasted March 1, 2010 by rjag with 1,044 views

Flight 1 (41 notes)

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2008 Famille Perrin / Perrin & Fils Gigondas France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Gigondas
Sweet black fruit on the nose with a blackberry apalte and very soft tannins.

Great value at £132
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2008 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Needs time. At the moment, it's showing alcohol and not much else. Everything is in the right place and this will probably be delightful in due course.
White
2000 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Another of tonight's stunners.
Red
2008 Domaine de la Charbonnière Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Hints of chocolate. Very good balance and structure. Will improve?.
Lovely in full mouthful.
Red
2008 Domaine de la Charbonnière Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Mourre des Perdrix France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
This has a much fruitier nose than the straight CNDP, but I'm rather worried that it's a bit lacking in structure.
Red
2008 Domaine les Pallières Gigondas Terrasse du Diable France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Gigondas
Sweete fruit and pepper. Soft and easy drinking, but too expensive at £156
Red
2008 Famille Brunier Châteauneuf-du-Pape Domaine La Roquète France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Very ripe, almost Australian in style. A nother good wine at a fair (£192) price.
White
2008 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc La Crau France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Very good, but lacks a bit of body.
Red
2008 Domaine les Pallières Gigondas Les Racines France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Gigondas
Burgundian fruit and grace on the palate with a blackberry nose that is curiously Rhonish.

Very Good.
Red
2008 Domaine des Sénéchaux Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Best 08 on show after the Clos des Papes. Blackberry palate and decent structure. All in all something of a surprise.
Red
2006 Domaine des Sénéchaux Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Like the 08, this is good. Actually, it's very very good.
White
2008 Domaine des Sénéchaux Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Condrieu style nose.

This is by no means a bad wine, but I think there are better wines available here for the same price.
Red
2008 Clos des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Absolutely explosive nose; the closest I can get is sherbet, but that rather insults what's on offer here.
The palate is rather like the 07 Vieux Telegraphe, relatively severe and restrained compared to the nose, but softens on the finish.

All 4 of the Avril wines tonight (08, 07, 06, 04) have strong juicy blackcurrant fruit. My first taste of Clos des Papes; it won't be my last.
Red
2007 Clos des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Has developed a sweet liquorice nose and palate compared to the 08. That lovely sweet black fruit is there again, but I just have a slight concern over whether this wine has the structure to age as well as one might hope.
Red
2006 Clos des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Very like the 07, but slightly more subtle. Slightly better structure?

I think I'd buy this over the 07...
Red
2004 Clos des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Well, 6 years on from the vintage and the fruit doesn't disappear in a hurry - this still has the sweet blackcurranty fruitiness of the younger vintages.

I think it's begining to take on some secondary flavours, but this wine, while obviously "serious" is still enormous fun. Kind of like the end of Mahler 2; by no means lightweight, but very easy to just get carried along by its overall feeling of joy!
White
2008 Michel & Stéphane Ogier Condrieu France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Condrieu
Wonderful apricot nose. Orange peel and honey palate. Beautiful acidity. Stunning, but drink young.
Red
2008 Michel & Stéphane Ogier Syrah La Rosine France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Vin de Pays des Collines Rhodaniennes
Cranberry colour. White pepper on nose and palate. Proper NOrthern Rhone syrah.
Red
2008 Michel & Stéphane Ogier Côte-Rôtie France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Like La Rosine, but more so on nose. More intense and tannic on palate. It needs the spicy oak and tannins to integrate, but it could be very good once they do.
White
2008 Jean-Michel Gerin Condrieu La Loye France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Condrieu
Nose is more restrained than the Ogier Condrieu. Honey on palate with caramel finish. Well structured and very good. Slightly too alcoholic with a hint of burn, but this may well fade before the lovely crispness disappears too.
Red
2008 Jean-Michel Gerin Côte-Rôtie Champin le Seigneur France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Quite a vivid cranberry colour again. Much softer than the Ogier Cote Rotie. I think it will drink much younger. Less good than the Ogier.
Red
2006 Jean-Michel Gerin Côte-Rôtie Champin le Seigneur France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
Alcohol is slightly out of kilter again, reinforcing my concerns about the 08. A glance at the bottle reveals this is only 13% which shows it's all about balance and that this ain't got it. Interesting nuances on the palate, but it's a fight to appreciate them over the alcohol.
White
2006 Domaine Yves Cuilleron Condrieu Vertige France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Condrieu
That Condrieu nose is all there, but the palate has gone to glycerol and all the interesting nuances of the younger vintages seem to have disappeared.

I wonedr whether this wine will come again?
Red
2008 Domaine Yves Cuilleron St. Joseph Les Serines France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph
Pepper game and blackcurrants on the nose. Very tannic but intense dark soft fruit on palate. Good.
Red
2008 Domaine Yves Cuilleron Côte-Rôtie Terres Sombres France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
This wine gives nothing away. Slight mint on an elderflower! dominated nose. Palate has intense, raspberry dominated red fruit.
Red
2008 Domaine du Tunnel (Stéphane Robert) St. Joseph France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph
White pepper and rounded tannins.

Might well develop?
Red
2008 Domaine du Tunnel (Stéphane Robert) Cornas France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
Much more like Cornas than some on show tonight. Decent price, but there are still better wines on show tonight.
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2008 Domaine du Tunnel (Stéphane Robert) Cornas Pur Noir France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Cornas
Proper Rhone yumines. Disturbingly sof tannins - they are there, but they're phenomenanally soft.
White
2008 Domaine du Tunnel (Stéphane Robert) St. Péray France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Péray
Not great. Flabby. Could be because I tasted it out of order, but I won't be buying.
White
2008 J.L. Chave Sélection Hermitage Blanche France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Drink young. Does nothing for me. Sweet and simple.
Red
2008 J.L. Chave Sélection Côtes du Rhône Mon Coeur France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône
Good simple fare. Drink now. Very good value.
Red
2008 J.L. Chave Sélection St. Joseph Offerus France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph
Gunpowder and pepper nose. White pepper palate, but lacks the interest of the 07.
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2008 J.L. Chave Sélection Hermitage Farconnet France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Sweet, opulent red/black fruits on nose. Palate matches nose; good balance, tannins and acidity.
White
2008 Marc Sorrel Hermitage Blanc France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Sweet orange and grapefruit nose. The palate is mineral and restrained with good structure. Made from just Marsanne, I reckon this wants 4-5 years before drinking.
White
2008 Marc Sorrel Hermitage Blanc Les Rocoules France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Salty and restrained, it gives nothing away. Seems classy though.
Red
2008 Marc Sorrel Hermitage France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Peppery nose, but limited fruit. A little mean?
Red
2008 Marc Sorrel Hermitage Le Gréal France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Peppery Rhone nose. Another stunning wine!!
Red
2008 Montirius Gigondas Terres des Ainés France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Gigondas
Much sweeeter than the Montirius Vacqueryas. Will make lovely young drinking.
Red
2008 Montirius Vacqueyras Le Clos France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Vacqueyras
It's kiond of like a Burgundy; bucketloads of tannin, but elegant and pure. Good on a non typical Rhone way. Mineral notes.
White
2008 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Condrieu nose, but more elegant and mioneral. The palate's completely different though; really full bodied and opulent with a pleasant sourness, but not excessive.

Probably one to buy old, if one can find it anywhere.
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2008 Famille Perrin / Perrin & Fils Vinsobres Les Cornuds France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Vinsobres
Burgundian crunchy strawberry fruit, but with tannin. Utterly fantastic value!
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