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VDP- Tour Grosse Lage 2017
Hotel Atlantic, Hamburg
Tasted January 30, 2017 by fc1910 with 410 views
Introduction
The VDP shows their wines from Grosse Lage in some selected bigger citys all over Germany. This Tour is for the GG from the regions of Franken/ Rheingau and Württemberg. The estates bring all of their GG, Riesling as well as Burgundy white and red as well as Lemberger (Blaufränkisch).
Flight 1 - VDP- Tour Franken (11 notes)
White
2015 Bernhard Höfler Michelbacher Apostelgarten Riesling Großes Gewächs
87 points
Very subdued aromas, quite balanced wine, very herbal , quite long, nothing special, lacking depth, **-***, 86-88
White
2015 Horst Sauer Escherndorfer Lump Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
Very fresh appearance, citrus, passion fruit, savoury, little unbalanced still, needs time and aeration, for the next decade, *(**-+), 88-91?
White
2014 Horst Sauer Escherndorfer Lump Riesling Großes Gewächs
88 points
more acidic bite than the 2015 vintage, less fruit, restrained, nearly sour, ending salty and long, *(**-*), 87-90+
White
2015 Schmitt's Kinder Randersackerer Pfülben Riesling Großes Gewächs
90 points
Yellow ripe fruit, fine, very balanced though, chalky, ending long, tasty now but will benefit from 3-5+ years in the cellar, **(*-*), 88-91?
White
2015 Rainer Sauer Escherndorf Am Lumpen 1655 Riesling Großes Gewächs
87 points
intense pear in the nose, spicy on the midpalate, pears, ending tasty, *(**), 86-89+
White
2015 Weingut am Stein Stettener Stein Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
Tropical fruits in the nose, delicious mango on the palate, ending mineralic with integrated acidity in the background, **(*+-*), 88-90+?
White
2014 Weingut am Stein Stettener Stein Riesling Großes Gewächs
88 points
Quite different to the 2015 vintage, more austere, all components more on the none fruity side, needs more time to evaluate, *(**+), 87-90+?
White
2013 Weingut am Stein Stettener Stein Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
the most balanced GG from Knoll, still fresh, but lacking depth in the midpalate, ending fruity, **(*+), 87-90
White
2015 Weltner Rödelseer Küchenmeister “Hoheleite” Sylvaner Großes Gewächs
88 points
Intense pear aromas, starting restrained, chalky, pears, ending long, one of the best Sylvaner from Franken, *(**+), 87-89+
White
2015 Weltner Rödelseer Küchenmeister “Hoheleite” Riesling Großes Gewächs
90 points
fullbodied, harmonic, concentrated yellow fruit, limestone, ending long and tasty, very good Riesling, **(**), 89-91+
White
2012 Weltner Rödelseer Küchenmeister “Hoheleite” Riesling Großes Gewächs
87 points
some little petrol, caramel, herbal, nearly ripe, ending a little tart, **(*), 86-88+
Flight 2 - VDP- Tour Rheingau (21 notes)
White
2015 Weingut Fritz Allendorf Winkeler Jesuitengarten Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
Very peppery nose, tasty, fruit delicious and not bonedry, concentrated, persistent, somehow gastronomic, ending long, **(*+), 87-90
White
2015 Weingut Fritz Allendorf Rüdesheimer Berg Roseneck Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
fine mineralic appearance, stonefruit, layered, good depth, ending tasty and long, **(*+), 88-90+
White
2015 Weingut Fritz Allendorf Winkeler Hasensprung Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
more mineralic than the two other GG of Allendorf, bonedry, unevolved, ending salty and long, *(**+), 88-90+?
White
2015 Joachim Flick Wickerer Nonnberg Riesling Erstes Gewächs
89 points
Very fine on the palate, balanced, stonefruit, some pear, ending tasty and long, *(**+)?, 88-90+
White
2015 Joachim Flick Hochheimer Königin Victoriaberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
88 points
very young, effervecing, creamy texture, fullbodied, lacking finesse, long, *(** ), 87-89+
White
2015 Joachim Flick Hochheimer Hölle Riesling Großes Gewächs
91 points
very young appearance, yellow fruit, vibrating minerality, ending salty and long, *(***), 89-92?
White
2015 Schloss Johannisberg Riesling Silberlack Grosses Gewächs
90 points
Yellow fruit nose, subtle, creamy from evaluating in the casks, lacking something in the midpalate, too young, ending a little tart, wait 3-5 years, *(**+*), 88-91+?
White
2012 Schloss Johannisberg Riesling Silberlack Grosses Gewächs
90 points
Tangy smell of stonefruit, creamy, concentrated, a little unevolved still, a long mineralic finish, needs 3-5+ years from now, **(**), 89-92+
White
2015 G.H. von Mumm Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs
90 points
tangy taste, stonefruit, lots of slate, bonedry, ending salty and very long, *(***), 89-91+
White
2015 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Johannisberger Hölle Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
Acidic bite, passion fruit, a little subdued, ending tasty and long, *(**+), 87- 90
White
2015 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs
90 points
energetic yellow fruit, more harmonic and evolved than the Hölle, concentrated on the midpalate, ending persistent and long, **(**), 89-91+?
White
2014 Peter Jakob Kühn Mittelheimer St. Nikolaus Riesling Großes Gewächs
93 points
opulent nose of ripe tropical fruit, superb richness, very layered bottle, mineralic, herbal aromas, this wine is singing now, complex top bottle with a very long salty finish, will benefit from 5+ years in the cellar, **(***), 92-95+
White
2015 Künstler Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs
91 points
Pineapple, supporting acidity, very fresh, saline, long+, needs more time, **(**), 89- 92+?
White
2015 Künstler Kostheimer Weiß Erd Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
White peaches, roses, quite balanced, creamy texture, tasty long ending, **(*+), 88-90+
White
2015 Künstler Hochheimer Kirchenstück Riesling Großes Gewächs
91 points
Very subtle start, lychee, pineapple, gentle on the midpalate, harmonic and feminin, silky long+ finish, **(**), 89-92+?
White
2015 Künstler Hochheimer Hölle Riesling Großes Gewächs
93 points
Quite subdued nose, lots of stonefruit, yellow ripe peaches, energetic on the midpalate, full ripe fruit with superb precision, ending very long and saline, an impressive wine, for the next decade+, **(**+), 91-94+?
White
2015 Weingut Spreitzer Mittelheimer St. Nikolaus Riesling Großes Gewächs
93 points
Another very impressive wine from another estate from the Rheingau, having not tried this vinyard often before, I have to admit: again a stunning wine from Mittelheim, pineapples with an superb start, very concentrated, layered with great depth, refined long+ finish, for the next decade+, **(**+), 91- 94?
White
2015 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
93 points
Salty, orange cest, concentrated, way too young, but very promising and harmonic though, ending mineralic long+, for the next decade+, *(***+), 91-94
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White
2014 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
92 points
More saline and with more acidity in the foreground as the 2015 vintage, so seems to be younger, crispy minerality, still a little unharmonic, needs time or long aeration, ending long with stong acidity, for the next decade plus, (****+?), 90-93?
White
2013 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
90 points
Starting with yellow stonefruit, quite harmonic appearance, lacking a little the precision of the 2014 and the richness of the 2015 vintage, ending long and tasty, **(*+), 89-91+
White
2012 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
92 points
No doubt the most matured bottle of the four presented vintages of the Gräfenberg, a whiff of petrol, tropical fruit such as apricot, creamy texture, harmonic midpalate, energetic and tasty, long+ finish, will evaluate for 5- 10 years+, **(**+), 90-93+?
Flight 3 - VDP- Tour Württemberg (13 notes)
White
2015 Weingut Aldinger Untertürkheimer Gips Marienglas Riesling Großes Gewächs
93 points
very energetic in the midpalate, great tension and depth, limestone with ripe peaches, well structured, ending very long, one of the best Aldinger Riesling GG ever, for the next decade, **(**+?), 91-94+?
Red
2014 Weingut Aldinger Untertürkheimer Gips Spätburgunder Marienglas Großes Gewächs
88 points
Very roasty, smoky, for me a very "german" nose which I do not prefer, little fruit, roasty aromas like coffee, very young, all components at the moment unbalanced, ending long but very acidic in the background, needs time, (***-+?), 87-91+?
Red
2014 Weingut Aldinger Fellbacher Lämmler Lemberger Großes Gewächs
91 points
Starting very herbal, peppery, black beerry, good persistence on the midpalate, silky tannin, great depth, ending long and tasty, needs time, *(**+-*), 90-93+?
White
2015 Weingut Dautel Bönnigheimer Steingrüben Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
Starting very spicy, peppermint, good persistence, midweight bodied, silky texture, orange peel, ending long, **(*+-?), 88-91+?
White
2003 Weingut Dautel Bönnigheimer Steingrüben Riesling Großes Gewächs
88 points
This estate also showed one of their first Riesling GG from the warm 2003 vintage, Not the Steingrüben but Sonnenberg, very ripe stonefruit, some savoury honey, subtle texture on the midpalate, ending crispy and long, will not improve, but no hurry to drink up, ***
Red
2014 Weingut Dautel Bönnigheimer Schupen Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs
89 points
Concentrated nose of very ripe cherry, starting spicy, layered, good structure and depth, ending long limy and tasty, *(**+-?), 88- 91?
Red
2014 Weingut Dautel Cleebronner Michaelsberg Lemberger Großes Gewächs
91 points
this vintage only labeled as Michaelsberg GG, ripe, red and black cassis, savoury tannin, very persistent on the midpalate with great richness, ending dense and very long, way too young, for the next decade+, *(***-?), 90-93+?
White
2015 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Grauer Burgunder Großes Gewächs
90 points
Vanilla in the nose, flowered, lucious body, pears, apples, very creamy texture, concentrated, ending long and tasty, needs time, for the next decade, *(**+-?), 88-91+?
White
2015 Weingut Schnaitmann Uhlbacher Götzenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
92 points
Much like the mineralic Nahe style, some lemon zest, very fresh and way too young, bonedry, ending persistent, saline and very long, if you like this style this wine is highly recommended, for the next decade+, *(***-?), 90-93+
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White
2015 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Riesling Großes Gewächs
89 points
More creamy than the Götzenberg, maybe from the extension in used casks, little apricot, some lemon, limy on the midpalate, ending long, for the next 5- 10 years+, *(**-***), 88-91+
Red
2014 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Bergmandel Lemberger Großes Gewächs
91 points
Starting savoury, some sour cherry, spicy, good concentrated texture, layered with great depth, ending long+ with supporting acidity, for the next decade+, *(***), 89-92+
Red
2014 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Bergmandel Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs
88 points
very closed showing, some red fruit, great unevolved depth, limy hints, ending long, needs a lot of time, for the next decade, (***+-?), 87-90+?
Red
2013 Weingut Herzog von Württemberg Pinot Noir Mundelsheimer Käsberg Großes Gewächs
90 points
subtle red berry in the nose, starting very delicate, smooth, refined, little herbal, well stuctured, ending long, my first experience with this estate, positive surprise, for the next 5+ years, **(*+), 89-91
Closing
First I thank the VDP for showing their GG once again. There was not that much time for the tasting. Some four hours in the afternoon. No chance to taste the mayority of the brought GG. I selected by myself. Therefore I wrote mostly brief TN which are showing just my today honest opinion of the tasted samples. All younger wines have to evaluate! It was very interesting that some estates brought some older bottles.