4/14/24, 4:22 PM - To my knowledge, it is the same yard. Before acquiring, St. Antonin did not own any yards in the CpD AOC.They have transferred 2ha from CdP Janasse Vineyard to St. Antonin:‚The one exception is a few hectares of Grenache planted on sand in Châteauneuf-du-Pape in the lieux-dits of La Fond du Loup and La Crau which we added to the estate from her family’s holdings at Domaine de la Janasse. ‘.Source: https://www.wine.com/product/clos-st-antonin-chateauneuf-du-pape-2020/1300757
3/31/24, 3:12 AM - I like your structured approach to tasting notes: First impression, nose, body, final assessment / personal opinion. You have a new fan! Cheers from Düsseldorf
3/16/24, 2:56 AM - I agree with you! With 23€ in Germany, it seems to be the best qpr on the market. The same applies to the 2016. I think some won't like it because this is a wine from a mass producer. But if they are able to produce this quality in masses who will complain?
3/15/24, 2:23 AM - Great note! Cheers from Düsseldorf
1/10/24, 2:39 PM - Thanks! I will keep my 3 bottles deep in the cellar.
1/5/24, 3:31 PM - I am learning every day. I never connected Lugana (esp. Ca dei Frati) with prominent acidity. More so with Rieslings and Sauvignon Blancs.
1/5/24, 1:56 AM - I found the 2018 to be in a sweet spot right now.
1/2/24, 3:16 AM - Also try the 2016 - it‘s great as well!
12/29/23, 9:54 AM - As a heavy Janasse user I also agree that these wines are mostöy better be drunk on the younger side. So between 3 and 6 years. I rarely had any wine > 10 years, which I enjoyed. BR from Düsseldorf
12/23/23, 5:12 PM - I also habe one bottle left. 2009 I bought two. Had the first one on christmas eve with my father in 2013. He past away shortly after that. Guess I will never open the second bottle to keep my memory alive. Merry christmas!
12/21/23, 1:31 PM - Agree. I tried this 1,5 years ago and was not convinced based on missing / reduced bouquet.
12/14/23, 3:57 PM - I do. ;) 45 in my cellar and approx. 120 consumed. All Janasse across different levels. My favourite: Chaupin, esp. 2009. BR from Düsseldorf
10/23/23, 11:55 AM - Can you let me know which podcast you are referring to? I am always looking for wine related podcasts. Thanks and best regards from Düsseldorf.
10/21/23, 8:57 AM - I like your comment. Not necessarily for this wine, but i have this in my head on a regular basis. ;) If the money wouldn‘t kick in all the time….
10/14/23, 3:29 AM - It was a single bottle, I visited St. Estephe some weeks ago and stood between the Meyney grapes and the gironde. It was quite impressive.I usually buy one bottle and taste it to decide wether to buy more and cellar it. Latest gem found: Poggio di Sotto Rosso 2018.Regards from Düsseldorf
10/14/23, 8:48 AM - You are right. I am fishing in different lakes at the same time. ;)
10/13/23, 12:10 PM - Guess the shake will only show effect until a certain age of the wine. Looking forward to drink this wine at christmas eve. Regards from Düsseldorf
10/3/23, 12:45 AM - Here in Europe, the price remains stable. I got my 2015 and 2016 for 20-23€, which to me seems like a brilliant qpr! Regards from Düsseldorf
9/24/23, 9:56 AM - I agree. I had half a bottle in the famous Brasserie Lipp in Paris and then ordered some for my cellar (19 €). Cheers from Düsseldorf!
9/11/23, 10:42 AM - Bought it directly in Reims for €25,50. Guess I am lucky here.
7/15/23, 12:49 PM - Thanks for your hints. Will taste the wine in a Josephinenhütte No. 3 - my favorite glas at the moment (and probably for the next years to come…)Cheers from DüsseldorfHolger
6/3/23, 3:39 AM - I looked at your alternative - wasn‘t able to find a 2019 / 20 Gigondas from Brechet below 28 €. So I think at 16 € the Janasse is as good as it can get.
5/22/23, 3:05 PM - Wow, that must have been a nice wedding! :-)Thanks for the comment and regards from sunny Düsseldorf!
5/14/23, 11:37 AM - Thanks for the note. I will drink it next Friday on my birthday. As I am not that experienced wtith champagne - do you decant it and let it breathe? Any recommendations for temperature and glas? Cheers from Düesseldorf!
4/27/23, 12:36 AM - Thanks for the note, I completely agree! I am drawn into this winery since tasting the 2012 version of the COL after it was named #2 WOTY by winespectator, only surpassed by a vintage port.The only disadvantag is the price as there is only one retailer importing these wines to Germany. One day I will visit the winery in Australia!Cheers from sunny Düsseldorf!
3/28/23, 10:02 AM - Not sure what the meaning of this tasting note is. If you want to document the food eaten with a wine without adding a tasting note, then there might be more valuable websites to do this….
3/19/23, 1:48 PM - Happy to hear. i am glad I have 4 left in my cellar. Bought them on release for 25 € *sigh*
3/11/23, 3:11 AM - Probably. However, I think I - by now - might be experienced enough to realize whether a wine has potential or not. This bottle clearly did not. (Loosing my trust in professional reviews about Bordeaux a bit.)
2/13/23, 12:53 AM - Thanks for your comment. As we drank this one against the Vina Ardanza 2016 inour tasting group, no one could see the potential of ever coming close to the Ardanza. Therefore I have rather linked this bottle to bad storage / bottle variation. In these categories, Spain / the wineries produce hundreds of thousands of bottles. I still have to be convinced that all bottles fulfill the quality standard they have defined. So, I dont blame my taste or the wine itself (nor the age of both ;-) ).Best Regards from Düsseldorf and *Helau*
2/13/23, 12:55 AM - (Decanted and aired 1,5 hours)
12/22/22, 9:25 AM - Reading the great note and comments, I spontaniously decided to pop a cork of a demi bottle. Notes will follow. Thanks for the inspiration! So far, I am a big fan of this. 22€ / 0,375l 😎 Cheers from Düsseldorf
12/18/22, 11:39 AM - I still habe five left with the last bottle opened this summer. Nice showing, not even brown edges. I guess the other note was just a bad bottle or storage.
12/15/22, 2:29 AM - Could‘nt agree more to your note! I still have some left. 😊
12/3/22, 12:59 PM - I agree. 19 provides more left bank enjoyment in these price ranges. Current favourite: Chateau Dauzac. BR from Düsseldorf
11/21/22, 12:30 AM - Thanks for the information - yes, that might explain it. I will investigate - thats what the Cellartracker Community is about. 😎
11/18/22, 12:51 PM - Strange, bought this wine for 70 €, now its close to 300 €. What happened?
7/2/22, 12:22 AM - Sounds good. It seems there are mixed opinions for this one, but I am definetly on your side. 😎BR from sunny Düsseldorf
6/6/22, 4:35 AM - I agree with your note. I wonder why this wine is so highly praised by Professional reviewers. Purely on potential?Reminds me to rather buy one bottle and taste myseld instead of relying on points and buy a whole bunch.
5/25/22, 9:33 PM - Correct. This statement is based on a retail price of 90 € here in Düsseldorf. If you think, this is a good qpr, go for it. ;-)
5/8/22, 12:22 AM - I just opened my bottle yesterday. Flawed - too bad... Glad you enjoyed yours!
5/3/22, 1:51 PM - Just for my understanding - why did you score it 5 pts lower than your last note - based on the descritions I dont see a difference.
5/2/22, 12:50 PM - It seems that Janasse has made an oustanding regular chateauneuf in that vintage. The chaupin, although highly praised, is a bit laid back for me at least at the moment. Glad I have the tradition to enjoy now. .)
4/6/22, 12:19 AM - Just my two cents, but 86 and 90 would result in an average of 88 and not 92. Or Am I missing the point here?
9/27/18, 12:22 PM - Yes, 1 hour. Got better and was finished by one more hour. BR
4/13/18, 5:02 AM - I had many 07's and all of them were extraordinary! Still have one left.
5/25/17, 7:30 AM - Agreed. That's why I did not score it. I'll see how my remaining bottles will do.
3/10/17, 11:11 AM - I totally agree with you. What is so special about this wine (beside the nose and taste) are the occasions, on which I had it. I shared this wine with my father on Christmas, who passed away half a year later. I shared it with my mum being a widow for 2 months. I had this wine with my former girlfriend in a hotel room in Paris on a cold romantic January night. And I enjoyed it with my current girlfriend on a terrace in the ligurian mountains with self cooked food and a view to the sea after visiting Nice that day.So, all in all it's not only the wine, but also the very special moments which makes it so special to me. So I rather drink it alone or with a loved person on very special occasion.
1/2/17, 10:03 AM - I totally agree. My favourites are Clos des Papes and Janasse (Chaupin and VV). I never had an outstanding experience with Beaucastel, not even in 2007. Nevertheless I still got weak and bought new vintages based on good reviews. However, now I have a 2009 and two 2010 left and will not buy any more Beaucastel's.Best regards and happy new year from Düsseldorf!
11/28/16, 3:16 AM - Thanks for your note on the Hubacker and Kirchspiel GG! Are the already enjoyable at current stage or do you recommend to wait? Did you decant or pnp'ed them?
11/26/16, 8:03 AM - Thanks for this note! Guess I will open my well stored bottle soon. BR from Düsseldorf
10/18/16, 2:39 AM - Ibetian: I was thinking to do so, too. However, the cork was fully ok (only the surface on the one end was red) and it was so slightly corked, it was still drinkable. So I guess it was bottle variation or bad storage. Based on this and one bad experience with a Chateau Figeac 1990, I tend not to buy old Bordeaux via Ebay any more.
1/2/16, 10:21 AM - I had the same experience. Still have 4 bottles. But I strongly believe, that the drinking windows closed a year ago.
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