1/24/23, 10:15 PM - I ordered two of these last year on BerserkerDay (heard of it?) and enjoyed the first one quite a bit...my impression was a lot like yours. I'm still debating how long to let the other rest.
8/8/22, 10:12 AM - Sorry to hear about the VA! The one bottle we've opened had maybe just a whiff at opening, but nothing serious (I would guess that I have average sensitivity to it, FWIW). We liked it well enough that I bought a couple more...hope those are sound.
8/22/22, 12:40 PM - Thanks for the update! I'm now extra-curious as to how the two I have will show.
5/26/22, 9:19 AM - Glad to hear you got a good one! We enjoyed our first bottle (also from GO) enough that I went back and bought three more, but those were all over the map, unfortunately. May the rest of yours be delicious...cheers!
11/30/21, 9:16 PM - Good note, fingers - you captured it well. I have a similar take and have enjoyed a couple bottles of it in recent months. Solid, simple, nicely balanced.
2/2/21, 5:29 PM - Thanks for the update, Tim. I still have four of these squirreled away from years ago, awaiting a good time to check in. Seems like it's coming along nicely. Cheers!
1/22/20, 5:36 PM - Thanks for the note, Tim - I don't drink much GV and haven't had an Ott before, but I picked up one of these last month just out of curiosity. Glad to hear it's solid.Hope your 2020 is off to a good start.
9/26/19, 5:48 PM - It was the Poyeaux - Wine Exchange had this at $17 for a handful of months back in late 2017. Prices really have jumped quite a bit since then, haven't they... Looks like I made a mistake drinking my two as early as I did, since they were nice enough but really not showing much at the time. Ah well, live and learn.
5/30/18, 8:28 AM - Could be, Tim. Based on my very limited experience with aged Loire, it's hard for me to tell if it has enough character to be worth holding onto. My wife thought it was fine but wasn't really enthusiastic about it, so I probably won't be reloading to find out.
12/31/18, 8:36 AM - Wow, I see that now. Wine Exchange had this in stock at $17 for about a year but I only ever bought a couple. I liked them well enough...just didn't find them especially remarkable at the time. Bad timing, perhaps, or maybe just my limited Loire experience, since the most recent note makes it sound like this has transformed. Cheers (and happy new year)!
11/12/18, 3:42 PM - I know this is an old note, but I just ran across this wine and saw your 98-point score. Is that a typo, or is this something pretty special? I'd be curious to know, if you have a minute to comment. Cheers!
10/30/18, 4:14 PM - Thanks for the note! I think the oxidation is part of the style here, a little like what Joly does (well, based on reputation and the one bottle I've tried). I bought a bottle of this after enjoying a 2011 Bellivière Coteaux du Loir Vieilles Vignes Eparses at Passionfish this summer - definitely some oxidized musky apple notes going on, but it somehow brought out something delicious in every dish we had there. Go figure. Cheers...
5/29/18, 5:57 PM - 55 points with that note? Tough grader!
5/29/18, 6:12 PM - Figured as much - been there done that. Glad to hear it's still showing so well. Larry's holding some for me, and I need to get down there to pick them up.
4/16/18, 11:55 AM - In the grand scheme of things, my percentage of corked bottles is pretty low...but still, it's not zero. While I admit an aesthetic affinity for natural cork, it's hard to argue with screwcaps.
4/13/18, 8:42 AM - Tim - I just saw that the 2015 Rosso from this producer is at K&L at an attractive price. Any experience with that one? I may pick up a couple, assuming that the traditional styling extends to that bottling as well.
4/13/18, 9:00 AM - Thanks for the input, Tim!I'd suggest putting your feet up and kicking back with a glass of wine to rest, but I'm not sure that's quite the thing after a string of long days of tasting... Hope you find all the hard work and time away to be rewarding.
3/16/18, 1:39 PM - I suppose it could be a low-level flaw combined with the dense fruit. I do seem to be sensitive to certain types of sulphur faults. Cheers!
2/20/18, 4:00 PM - Hi, Pjjt, and welcome to CellarTracker! The 50-point score you list here is at the very bottom of the scoring scale and doesn't seem to be in line with your impression. Check out the community notes on wine scoring here: https://support.cellartracker.com/article/49-tasting-notes-and-ratingsHope that's helpful!
1/15/18, 1:32 PM - I picked up just a few bottles last year, and this was my last. I'm weighing January purchase options and am thinking I may have to grab a few more while he's running his futures deal. Happy new year, Tim!
12/30/17, 9:55 AM - Thanks for the note, Brian. I was considering taking my lone bottle of this to a dinner next Friday, but I think I'll leave it alone and look elsewhere. Merry Christmas & happy new year!
10/28/17, 12:02 PM - Very glad yours showed well, and I hope your other bottles do the same! Ours seem to have been uneven, but who knows - I might just be hypersensitive to certain types of funkiness. We have one more, and I'll open it with boot polish in mind to see how that lines up with what we smell. Cheers!
10/3/17, 5:55 PM - Psst... This was just recently marked down to $29.99 a bottle at K&L, in case you need some. Based on your notes, I'm thinking about grabbing one or two when I make an order later this week.
10/4/17, 8:44 AM - Turnabout's fair play...you're the one whose note is making me buy some :pHope things are well with you, Tim.
7/29/17, 3:43 PM - Hmm, W-S doesn't show much of the Bieler in CA, and I don't see it at any of the online stores I order from, but I'll keep an eye out for it. Hope all is well, Tim!
6/8/17, 12:48 PM - Interesting to see your impression on this - was your bottle labeled "Réserve Privée" like the one I found? The version we had wasn't nutty either, but I didn't pick up a impression of heat or brandy-ness. Just curious to see if it's a different bottling or if there's just some bottle or palate variation. Cheers!
4/3/17, 11:31 AM - Thanks for the note, Tim! Glad to get some advance notice on a promising affordable bottle of nebbiolo. Any other general comments or noteworthy bottles from non-washed-out areas (including Gattinara, Ghemme, etc.)?
12/6/16, 9:46 PM - $17 at Wine Exchange last month - they still have some in stock.
10/14/16, 9:25 AM - This just showed up at Wine Exchange for $13...found your note while looking into it & thought I'd mention it. Hope all is well!
10/27/16, 2:58 PM - Not at this point...we haven't been going through many whites lately & I haven't actually made an online order in a while. 'Tis the season, though, and there's a case to be filled, so I might grab at least one.
3/22/16, 8:52 AM - I think this fares better on the tannins front than the acid front...there might not be enough for extended aging, but a bit more time in bottle definitely couldn't hurt. Still, this will never not be big. :)
1/11/16, 10:06 AM - I found it for $16.49 at my local Costco, of all places, and I was quite happy with it at that price. The more I think about it, the more I think at least a couple more will be coming home with me at some point. Happy new year, Tim!
12/17/15, 4:45 PM - Agreed, not my style either, but I can definitely think of friends and family who would be happy if I opened my last one for them. The glass I had from our recent bottle showed big and ripe but not hot...sounds like your experience was different.
8/20/15, 3:27 PM - Haven't had time to browse through tasting notes this summer...just saw that you got around to opening this one. Glad you enjoyed it, although I'm not surprised to see it wasn't a crowd-pleaser, since it's far from being either fruit-driven or off-dry.
6/9/15, 8:59 AM - Tony, you've got the right idea - "cellar defender" refers to an economical but satisfying wine to keep around for lesser occasions, staving off the temptation to drink more age-worthy or treasured bottles in your collection. I'm not sure where I first came across the phrase, but I'm pretty confident it was online.
4/28/15, 9:18 AM - Thanks, Tim...I'm sure a couple of bottles will make it into my (small, full) wine fridge for longer-term storage, but the others certainly won't make it a decade. Glad to know I can rely on the kindness of others!
3/27/15, 11:13 AM - Y'know, this guy left a comment on my note from last year agreeing that these need a few years..."Five years, minimum" he said. Sounds like you're in agreement. ;)
3/7/15, 10:09 AM - Sorry to hear that this disappointed. My one bottle of this was the first I ever intentionally bought for aging, and it sounds like its time has come...maybe even come and gone?
9/8/14, 5:56 PM - Tim, I'm curious to hear what you think after you open yours. It wasn't a good match for the cedar-planked salmon I made (it wanted something brighter and/or more savory than the spice preparation I used), but I enjoyed it quite a bit anyway.
9/8/14, 9:11 PM - That sounds promising to me. I had also been thinking that salty cured meat might be a good match for when we open our other bottle...not sure in what form, though.
11/2/14, 8:41 PM - Tim, based on the body and acidity, I do think this should last at least a few years, although I don't know what to expect as to how it might improve or decline. I have minimal experience with aging white rhones, and aside from one or two which were in a shut down phase, my impression is that I prefer them on the younger side.I do think that this is a great choice if you're looking for something to open for another inquisitive wine geek. Plus, BWO still has them in stock, so if you open this and like it, you can always grab another...I am thinking of adding at least one more since I'm in process of filling another case there.
10/13/14, 10:07 PM - Do tell...what was the mis-match, and based on this experience what might you recommend as a better pairing?
6/24/14, 9:37 AM - I'll keep it on my radar...thanks for the tip!
1/12/14, 7:01 PM - Thanks for the good note, Tim...seems like I should plan to drink our bottle of this sooner rather than later. Do let us know how it's doing by the end of the bottle (if it's not gone already).
12/23/13, 9:17 AM - Thanks for the tip! Happy holidays...
1/3/14, 12:33 PM - I do and I did...thanks for flagging that, Tim!
1/2/14, 10:22 AM - Sorry to hear about this showing, as I have a bottle of this that was gifted to me a couple years ago. I seem to remember it being enjoyable the one time I had it in the tasting room...maybe I should have opened it back then. Ah well, if nothing else, at least I have a good idea of which friends/family might enjoy it now.Happy new year!
12/12/13, 8:45 AM - Glad to hear this was firing on all cylinders for you...and glad also that I was able to finagle a trade with Josh for one last bottle earlier this year! Hope all is well.
11/18/13, 12:19 PM - :)I usually give a wine a few points for being competently made in its style even when it's not to my preference. <80 for me usually flags a wine as undrinkable or close to it, and we did make our way through this with some level of (oak-mitigated) enjoyment.Yeah, maybe 85 is a couple/few points high for reflecting my personal enjoyment, but my wife liked it a bit more than I did, and I know people I'd recommend it to who will think this is fantastic, so that's the extremely non-analytic number I felt like throwing at it this morning.
11/18/13, 1:54 PM - Tim, I got it and was smiling while typing my comment too, despite the dry writing. Looking forward to hoisting another glass or three together someday...
11/7/13, 9:24 AM - Terre Nere, duly noted. Looks like it's mostly available on the east coast...I wish more wines like that made it out to the west coast (especially at $15).
10/18/13, 10:03 AM - In SB, I like a citrus/steely character and even a bit of grassiness, but I'm sensitive to overt green pepper notes, so this one just isn't for me. If you don't mind that type of greenness as much, I'd say it's fairly priced in the $10-15 range, probably not higher.
10/1/13, 5:59 PM - Just ran across this note while checking up on a few wines I've bookmarked over time...I also prefer my oak/malo reined in, so I will take this as a warning.
9/30/13, 9:51 AM - Tim, the Tanzer review caught my eye on this one, and I'm glad it did. I'm not ordering anything for a while, but if K&L still has some around once I'm ready again, I'll probably grab a few more.
12/15/12, 3:20 PM - Trader Joe's, actually. There's a barbera and barolo as well, but the wine guy at ours steered me towards this one as his favorite of the three...at $10 I had to give it a whirl. It's not spectacular, but it hit the spot last night with dinner, so there you go...
5/18/13, 2:04 PM - Red fruits and noticeable acids...sounds like a good fit for a cookout, especially at the price. Hope you enjoy the other two bottles too. Ours showed a little variation, but we ended up liking them, especially with a little air.
4/19/13, 2:30 PM - Thanks for the great note! Glad I have one...wish I had more.
4/11/13, 7:57 AM - Thanks for the tip. I'm fairly sensitive to that pepper type of greenness you find in some SB, and I rarely buy it blind for that reason, but next time I run across it I'll try chilling it down and see what that does. Glad you're enjoying yours...cheers!P.S. Margerum's 2011 Sybarite is the best SB I've had in a while. It's just a tad more expensive, but it's worth checking out.
4/10/13, 8:17 AM - Thanks for the tip...I have two more, so I'll try to plan farther ahead next time! And yeah, it's time to open another De La Terre soon.
3/12/13, 2:56 PM - Bummer. This isn't anything like my experience with the one bottle I opened, so maybe it's got some sort of unusual flaw? I'm sure the winemaker would like to know - if you have the time, you should give Josh a call.Hope your next bottle is better, whatever it may be...
12/7/12, 12:29 PM - We opened one of these at my tasting group's Secret Santa party last weekend, and when the gift bottles came out, it ended up being the one I got to bring home, much to my delight. Beautiful stuff.
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