2017 Vieux Château Certan

Community Tasting Note

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89 Points

Saturday, November 6, 2021 - Drank at Anhelo alongside a 2018 Gravette de Certan, 2014 Malescot (amongst others)- the MSE & VCC 2nd label bested this premier Bordeaux wine for all of us. Maybe in decanter for 3 hours but tasted throughout. I am a huge VCC fan (one of my favorite chateau/wineries) but today this was not close to any good vintage (not even talking great) I have ever had. Didn’t have time or interest to sit with it so a fleeting impression is all I can give.

My only advice is to hold and hope the critics were remotely close to their declarations on this wine. Try again 2026/2027.

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  • Comment posted by TXRDW:

    11/9/2021 8:02:00 AM - Hi Ryan - Do you have any sense of whether a bad bottle or bad phase of the wine contributed to your score vs. simply a bad vintage of a good wine? I have 6 bottles and I’ve yet to try the 2017.

  • Comment posted by LiteItOnFire:

    11/9/2021 8:29:00 AM - I am a boy band fan of VCC so a poor tasting from them is a shock- this one took me by surprise. Unfortunately I have had extremely little experience with ‘17s and the recent ones I did have, not VCC & Ducru Beaucaillou were both disappointing (for different reasons). Add to that, I pulled this cork with a large number of other wines that all garnered my attention and therefore only had my impression and not a deep understanding.

    My only thought is it’s in a strange phase and hope with time it will come together. It wasn’t bad, lite or flat it was simply…. Boring and disappointing? With years in the cellar I hope we will be rewarded but for now it is certainly, IMO, not worth opening.

  • Comment posted by jonboy74:

    12/1/2021 9:16:00 PM - So boring and disappointing wines are an 89? Are you on a 20 point scale? (I probably am). Glad the MSE continues to deliver, love that wine!

  • Comment posted by LiteItOnFire:

    12/2/2021 5:36:00 AM - The wine was still ok just not up to the VCC standards/my expectations of incredible wine.

    Regards to scale- I purposely don’t drink crap (will throw it out or spill it down the drain). Life is too short for crappy wine and empty calories.

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