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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/17/2011 10:59:42 AM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/22/2011 10:49:21 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/26/2011 3:21:45 PM   
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the server had a sinus infection so I've got no fault with him
hopefully i will be able to have the retailer replace it or I'm
out the bottle:(

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/27/2011 7:26:31 PM   
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At least it was at home and I can pull another bottle.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 9:37:50 AM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 10:07:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		last wednesday 2004 kathryn hall cabernet sauvignon sacrashe vineyard. let kelp's experience, this one was just slightly corked, but enough to make me open something else. and it was from benchmark who doesn't replace corked bottles, so i flushed that $ right down the kitchen sink.


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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 10:59:24 AM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 11:22:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nothing so painful here, but after a very low spoilage/cork rate for most of 2011, I did have issues with a few bottles within just a few days over the holidays:

2010 Field Recordings Wine "Fiction" Fourth Edition (smelled kinda like pickle juice...never got that before)
2006 Tolo Cellars Syrah (plain ol' corked...the winery was out but replaced it with the '06 Reserve bottling)
2004 Domaine Gilles Troullier Vin de Pays des Côtes Catalanes L'esprit du temps (not terrible, but astringent in an 'off' way)

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 11:32:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Still waiting for any report of a TCA bottle with screwcap. I know it's possible, but have yet to see it

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 11:47:09 AM   
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Still waiting for any report of a TCA bottle with screwcap. I know it's possible, but have yet to see it


I had one once. Definitely corked. Don't remember what it was though...

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 11:57:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: fingers

Still waiting for any report of a TCA bottle with screwcap. I know it's possible, but have yet to see it


I had one once. Definately corked. Don't remember what it was though...

The bottle of Field Recordings Fiction I mentioned above was screwcap...  I had another Field Recordings wine several months ago under screwcap which was flawed too - badly elevated acidity, but not TCA.


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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 12:07:38 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 12:57:31 PM   
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2010 Field Recordings Wine "Fiction" Fourth Edition (smelled kinda like pickle juice...never got that before)


I'd guess that was/is Volatile Acidity (V.A.), bret, which is unrelated to TCA, but is a pretty common wine fault. I found a funny (to me anyway) and informative article about V.A. http://www.aromadictionary.com/articles/volatileacidity_article.html

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 1:15:59 PM   
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2010 Field Recordings Wine "Fiction" Fourth Edition (smelled kinda like pickle juice...never got that before)


I'd guess that was/is Volatile Acidity (V.A.), bret, which is unrelated to TCA, but is a pretty common wine fault. I found a funny (to me anyway) and informative article about V.A. http://www.aromadictionary.com/articles/volatileacidity_article.html

That was my guess at the time too, although I've never had VA go in quite that direction on me...  Thanks for the article.


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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/12/2012 5:05:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		How does TCA present in a Sauternes?  I just opened a 2005 Doisy Vedrines and it's rather sharp and a little bitter on the finish.  Almost tastes oxidized.  Drinkable but nothing special in what should be a great bottle.   Corked??

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/13/2012 12:57:16 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/17/2012 5:41:49 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/19/2012 9:29:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I opened a  '97 d'Arche Sauternes tonight. The cork was green. Smelled and tasted like a horrible stinky cheese wrapped in cardboard left outside on a rainy day. Not the sweet pear/lemon/orange it tasted like when I tried this wine a week ago.

No tasty sauternes for me this weekend.



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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/20/2012 10:44:22 AM   
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I opened a  '97 d'Arche Sauternes tonight. The cork was green. Smelled and tasted like a horrible stinky cheese wrapped in cardboard left outside on a rainy day. Not the sweet pear/lemon/orange it tasted like when I tried this wine a week ago.

Well, in the "better service than expected" department, K&L Wines said they'd replace the bottle if I bring it back to the store where I bought it. I wasn't expecting them too, but figured I'd ask anyway. I'm very pleased with their service today.


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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/20/2012 11:04:22 AM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/29/2012 10:48:38 AM   
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Wanted to try this, had not had wine made from Cortese grapes before... what a bummer.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/24/2012 3:55:12 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/24/2012 4:16:09 PM   
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Castleman Cellars Legacy Cabernet 2009...what a bummer...

Fortunately had 3 more bottles and Thanksgiving dinner continued without skipping a beat

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/24/2012 5:41:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		About 5 months ago, a 2004 Papapietro Perry Pinot Noir Mukaida Vineyards.

But there was a happy ending... About a month later I happened to be in Healdsburg CA and I dropped into Papapietro Perry on a Sunday afternoon. Just mentioned the corked bottle of a month earlier and the tasting room person immediately went back into their private collection and found a replacement bottle. I had no evidence of the corked bottle and certainly didn't expect a replacement. The attendant simply looked at me an said "I believe you. It's our pleasure."

Consider that this is not just a run-of-the-mill Pinot; it's a very limited distribution (there's only 22 bottles in the whole CT community), highly rated (CT 93 pts.) and relatively pricy ($75) Pinot. I was back at the winery at the end of October and mentioned my experience to Ben Papapietro (owner/winemaker). He said, "Absolutly, that's our policy."

I can't say enough good thinks about Papapietro Perry.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/24/2012 8:36:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anybody ever tried removing the TCA using plastic wrap? I wonder if it realy works...might at least be better than dumping down the drain.

Wiki link

"One method of removing TCA from tainted wine is to soak polyethylene (a plastic used for applications such as milk containers and plastic food wrap) in the affected wine. The non-polar TCA molecule has a high affinity for the polyethylene molecule, thereby removing the taint from the wine. The surface area of polyethylene needed to reduce the taint to sub-threshold levels is based on the TCA level in the affected wine, temperature, and the alcohol level of the wine.

This can be done at home, as advocated by Andrew Waterhouse, professor of wine chemistry at University of California, Davis, by pouring the wine into a bowl with a sheet of polyethylene plastic wrap. For ease of pouring, a pitcher, measuring cup, or decanter can be used instead. The 2,4,6-trichloroanisole will stick to the plastic. The process is effective within a few minutes.[5]"

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/24/2012 8:43:00 PM   
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Has anybody ever tried removing the TCA using plastic wrap? I wonder if it realy works...might at least be better than dumping down the drain.

Wiki link

"One method of removing TCA from tainted wine is to soak polyethylene (a plastic used for applications such as milk containers and plastic food wrap) in the affected wine. The non-polar TCA molecule has a high affinity for the polyethylene molecule, thereby removing the taint from the wine. The surface area of polyethylene needed to reduce the taint to sub-threshold levels is based on the TCA level in the affected wine, temperature, and the alcohol level of the wine.

This can be done at home, as advocated by Andrew Waterhouse, professor of wine chemistry at University of California, Davis, by pouring the wine into a bowl with a sheet of polyethylene plastic wrap. For ease of pouring, a pitcher, measuring cup, or decanter can be used instead. The 2,4,6-trichloroanisole will stick to the plastic. The process is effective within a few minutes.[5]"


Tried it, it removed a lot of the funky flavor, but did not return an equal amount of the fruit that was lost. Could have been other things wrong with the wine as well.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 11/24/2012 9:11:00 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 4/2/2014 4:36:58 PM   
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Have opened more than my fair share of corked bottles in 2014. This sucks.

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