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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 2/28/2017 11:17:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Quintarelli 2000 Amarone - had two bottles sourced from the same dealer but at different times, one was almost vinegar. Sucked.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 2/28/2017 11:56:21 AM   
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However, I am getting a 2014 as a replacement. Very generous of Mike Smith!

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 2/28/2017 4:12:04 PM   
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In the last week

1995 Beaucastel (a big shame! but have a few more)
La Rioja Alta Ardanza 2007 from half bottle. totally gone
A Cordoniu Anna we were using to taste blind for our upcoming WSET Diploma sparkling exam (could still tell it was cava, but just the slightest tca...)


TCA in bubbly seems rare, but can be really nasty.

2011 Immich-Batterieberg Riesling Escheburg I opened Saturday wasn't corked, but the cork was soaked thru to the rim all the way around, and the wine was ruined.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 9:44:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		2008 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau, before I could get a taste my future in-laws claimed this to be a great bottle!? I did not know what to do, so I let them finish it...anyone know what is the etiquette in this situation??

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 10:05:48 AM   
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2008 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau, before I could get a taste my future in-laws claimed this to be a great bottle!? I did not know what to do, so I let them finish it...anyone know what is the etiquette in this situation??


You didn't even get a glass? Wine is for sharing, isn't it?

In Joizey, the 'etiquette' is to say something like "Hey now, don't Bogart the whole bottle!" or "Yo! You gonna drain that or can I get a taste before it disappears?".

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 10:17:51 AM   
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2008 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau, before I could get a taste my future in-laws claimed this to be a great bottle!? I did not know what to do, so I let them finish it...anyone know what is the etiquette in this situation??


You didn't even get a glass? Wine is for sharing, isn't it?

In Joizey, the 'etiquette' is to say something like "Hey now, don't Bogart the whole bottle!" or "Yo! You gonna drain that or can I get a taste before it disappears?".


I poured a myself a few ounces once they proclaimed it fantastic, that's when I noticed it was corked...sadly the rest of the night I choked down a glass of a really bad bottle of Nickel & Nickel cab they had brought.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 10:22:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Scott W

2008 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau, before I could get a taste my future in-laws claimed this to be a great bottle!? I did not know what to do, so I let them finish it...anyone know what is the etiquette in this situation??

If they enjoyed it, I'd keep quiet and let them enjoy. It's possible that lightly corked is not detected or blows off. I don't find myself to be particularly sensitive to corked wines, but am getting better over time with more exposure (unfortunately). But early on in my wine drinking it's pretty likely I drank wines that were corked and never noticed.

I did have a similar situation where a nephew offered us some wine that was undrinkable. Not corked but simply horrible mess of harsh bitter fruit and some acid. This was at his home, and the wine was made by a friend of his family. He slammed down the whole bottle while my wife and discretely emptied our glasses into the camp fire and switched to beer or water.

EDIT since Scott answered my question...

In future with our nephew I always just make sure I have something palatable to drink by bringing plenty myself.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 10:39:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Scott W

2008 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau, before I could get a taste my future in-laws claimed this to be a great bottle!? I did not know what to do, so I let them finish it...anyone know what is the etiquette in this situation??

If they enjoyed it, I'd keep quiet and let them enjoy. It's possible that lightly corked is not detected or blows off. I don't find myself to be particularly sensitive to corked wines, but am getting better over time with more exposure (unfortunately). But early on in my wine drinking it's pretty likely I drank wines that were corked and never noticed.

I did have a similar situation where a nephew offered us some wine that was undrinkable. Not corked but simply horrible mess of harsh bitter fruit and some acid. This was at his home, and the wine was made by a friend of his family. He slammed down the whole bottle while my wife and discretely emptied our glasses into the camp fire and switched to beer or water.

EDIT since Scott answered my question...

In future with our nephew I always just make sure I have something palatable to drink by bringing plenty myself.


Thanks guys, yea I did not want to embarrass them at that point.


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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 10:52:14 AM   
CranBurgundy

 

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Status: offline 		Doh! I should have noted my post was in jest, and not about a flawed bottle.

Scott, you did the right thing using discretion. Ignorance is bliss, right?

Chris, I don't detect TCA's smell as much as I feel it as a slight burning sensation on the sides and tip of my tongue, especially in a bottle that isn't extremely corked.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 2:08:50 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/2/2017 4:38:48 PM   
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Quintarelli 2000 Amarone - had two bottles sourced from the same dealer but at different times, one was almost vinegar. Sucked.


That seriously sucks! Must have cost you a bit.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/3/2017 5:40:18 AM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 3/3/2017 8:12:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		2010 Poggerino Chianti Classico that was mildly fizzing in the glass.

What was disturbing though was the solids that were held in suspension in the wine. I have never seen anything like it before, others may be familiar with this. I waited an hour and it never settled like sediment normally would. I poured it out and thoroughly rinsed the glass only for it to happen again on the next pour. I have consumed wine past its prime before and have certainly drank lots of sediment and never thought twice but this was disgusting.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 10/9/2017 4:56:14 PM   
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If that wasn't bad enough my dinner is equally disappointing. Sweet corn is tough as leather, cucumber is seriously ripe & hideous....just a bad dinner overall. Honestly, the corked wine goes well with tonight's dinner

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/13/2018 2:02:11 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/13/2018 2:14:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of 300 corks bought off amazon. I should have known better but was hoping to use a few hundred blank corks for wines ready to bottle now that are not ever going to leave my family/friends network. They were advertised as "premium quality" but that must mean for craft use, because a brief whiff, even through the plastic bag they were shipped in, tells me never to let them near a bottle of wine. Back to seller they go.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/13/2018 2:33:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		2013 Castello di Monsanto Chianti Classico Riserva. Luckily purchased from Costco so will take back for a refund.

My wife and I both immediately knew it was bad, and I left it on the counter as a reminder to return it. My sister in law (who isn't always that nice to my wife) poured herself a glass when she was over a couple days later and drank the whole thing.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/13/2018 2:37:38 PM   
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2013 Castello di Monsanto Chianti Classico Riserva. Luckily purchased from Costco so will take back for a refund.

My wife and I both immediately knew it was bad, and I left it on the counter as a reminder to return it. My sister in law (who isn't always that nice to my wife) poured herself a glass when she was over a couple days later and drank the whole thing.

I might just slip a cork into that one to share again later.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 6:41:36 AM   
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Ouch.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 8:16:34 AM   
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Otherwise it wouldn't have bothered me much, but this is the only commercial wine made completely of the red Jgia variety and I was really looking forward to tasting how the variety tastes like.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 9:18:41 AM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 12:53:42 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 3:29:27 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 3:30:29 PM   
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Back to the 7-11 with that one!

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 3:34:22 PM   
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Owwww......

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 3:35:16 PM   
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Back to the 7-11 with that one!

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Well, they may be open 24/7 but I can’t make an exchange for wine on Sunday here in Indiana so I’ll wait until I need to fill up the gas tank later in the week.


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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/14/2018 5:01:11 PM   
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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/15/2018 7:57:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		At a recent broad horizontal of 1989 sweet Vouvray, my 1989 Huet Cuvée Constance (in 750 ml) and a friend's 1989 Huet Clos de Bourg Moelleux 1ere Trie were corked. Any other industry with this level of product failure and that forced consumers to bear most of the cost for it would have been quickly put out of business.

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/15/2018 8:54:39 AM   
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At a recent broad horizontal of 1989 sweet Vouvray, my 1989 Huet Cuvée Constance (in 750 ml) and a friend's 1989 Huet Clos de Bourg Moelleux 1ere Trie were corked. Any other industry with this level of product failure and that forced consumers to bear most of the cost for it would have been quickly put out of business.


Huet, and many other wineries, stopped using chlorine based cleaners and started using peroxide as a cleaning agent around 2000 (some much earlier). This vastly reduced the amount of corked bottles, since natural cork & chlorine react to form TCA. This is my primary reason for sticking with vintages in this century for the 2 wines you mention. 2002 is excellent and might eventually surpass 1989 and the mid 90's vintages. 2005 isn't far behind. 2009 & 2010 are stellar also. Actually, there really isn't a bad vintage from the Loire since the turn of the century, just a few mediocre to merely decent ones ('12, '13, and '14).

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RE: Just opened a corked bottle of .... - 1/18/2018 9:54:24 PM   
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