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• forceberry wrote: 94 points

  August 3, 2023 - The third vintage of the flagship white of Von Winning (along with the Ozyetra bottling). Forster Ungeheuer is a large Grosse Lage site at 29 ha (70 acres), but it has several smaller parcels within; Marmar is a special barrel selection, made by selecting the most promising barrel (or barrels) of wine made with fruit sourced exclusively from the tiny (0,25 ha / 1 acre), limestone-rich Dachloch parcel within the Ungeheuer vineyard. Fermented spontaneously in oak, aged on the lees for 24 months in 500-liter oak barrels. Since a VDP winery can have only one bottle of GG wine from one specific site, Marmar is not bottled as a GG Ungeheuer, but as a simple Gutswein. 13% alcohol.
  
  Deep, luminous and youthful neon yellow-green color. The nose feels very open, expressive and quite youthful with very intense aromas of ripe lemony citrus fruits and even lemon marmalade, some steely mineral tones, a little bit of woody spice, light fragrant yuzu tones, a hint of sweet white peach, a sweeter touch of toasty oak character and a primary whiff of grapey fruit. The wine feels ripe, concentrated and quite big on the palate with a full body and quite dry, youthful and very intense flavors of lemon marmalade and incisive steely minerality, some creamy oak tones, a little bit of sweet greengage, light mineral notes of wet rocks, a hint of exotic spice and a toasty touch of sweet oak spice. The tremendous acidity lends great sense of structure, power and intensity to the wine. The finish is ripe, powerful and quite concentrated with a long, complex aftertaste of lemon marmalade and stony minerality, some creamy oak tones, a little bit of ripe white peach, light honeydew melon tones, a hint of sweet, toasty oak spice and a touch of greengage.
  
  A remarkably big, substantial and still very youthful powerhouse of a Riesling. Although the wine does show some primary Riesling tones, it is pretty obvious that this is a very impressive and promising Riesling made in a style very few - if any - producers can match. Tasting this along with the 2015 and 2016 vintages, it seemed this was pretty similar to the 2015 vintage, only coming across as slightly more awkward, ie. showing more candied primary tones and relatively little oak integration. The 2016 vintage was slightly lighter, more delicate and less punchy in comparison, emphasizing finesse over concentration. Based on how the 2015 vintage seemed to be a more complete wine in comparison, I'd say this wine needs at least a handful of years more, before it starts to show its best. Nevertheless, this is a superb wine already now - there are no two ways about it. I can imagine this kind of bold blockbuster Riesling with some obvious oak influence might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I feel von Winning has managed to find the perfect balance between the use of oak and punchy GG fruit. Terrific stuff, highly recommended (at least for those who are patient enough to let the wine age some more). Yet still, at 89€ the wine is starting to get a bit too pricey for my preference.

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• emslounge Likes this wine: 94 points

  June 27, 2022 - komplexes Bukett - Steinfrucht, Zitrus, Dill, weitere Kräuter und Gewürze. Gut eingebundenes Holz, individueller Wein.

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• Zweder wrote: 94 points

  December 7, 2019 - Occasional dinner group. Keller, Coche Dury, Guigal La Landonne plus some ringers. (By PVa @ Monarh in Tilburg, The Netherlands): Clean and fresh bouquet with minerals. On the palate a beautiful balance between acidity and sweetness. Beautiful!

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Wine Definition

• Vintage 2017
• Type White
• Producer von Winning
• Varietal Riesling
• Designation Marmar
• Vineyard n/a
• Country Germany
• Region Pfalz
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• Appellation n/a
• UPC Codes 4050746041917, 4050746244103

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• In Cellars 168 (77%)
• Consumed 48 (22%)

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