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Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - Tasted at the Wine & Spirits Top 100 Symposium in NYC. I have a good bit of this in my cellar from other vintages, but this is the first I've tasted the 2016. 80% Sangiovese, 15% Cabernet Sauvignon, 5% Cabernet Franc. Solid wine, potentially Excellent, but I don't quite get Galloni, et al with 98ish scores. This is very oaky with mixed black, blue and red berry compote underneath pretty hefty tannin. Needs 8-10 years before considering dinking this for pure enjoyment, rather than out of curiosity.

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Comment posted by Mark1npt:

1/16/2020 5:10:00 AM - I'm holding back on these, simply because I've never had an aged Tig. They are so fun to me early, I really enjoy them then with food. Looking forward to this down the road in retirement. Thanks for your notes.
Comment posted by oldwines:

1/16/2020 6:57:00 AM - Once you start drinking more wine with age on it you will only want it that way! That's what makes having a cellar so great once they start to get mature...

Cheers!

"oldwines" aka Dave
www.dtpwineadvisors.com
Comment posted by Mark1npt:

1/16/2020 8:33:00 AM - old, I like my aged BDX and some Cali cabs with age but haven't had old Tigs.....looking forward to it!
Comment posted by 2020:

3/7/2020 9:21:00 PM - This might be an odd/out of place question, but would you favor Tig over an option of Valdicava? I realize they are different, but if you can only pick one, which are you selecting?
Comment posted by oldwines:

3/8/2020 4:48:00 AM - I think the answer to that question lies with your preferences. The Valdicava is often even more modern, ripe and heavily oaked. Traditionally I would like the nuance and elegance of Tig over Val but if you prefer the ripeness and power then the Valdicava is going to be your preference. That is my generalized vintage answer over time, especially true for older vintages. If you want a 2016 vintage answer you will have to wait for another year + for the Valdicava 2016 to come to market as I have not tasted any of that yet.
Comment posted by 2020:

3/8/2020 7:00:00 AM - I guess I’m trying to learn my preferences. Some of these professional critic descriptions make it harder to understand the wine when your new to wine and looking for more basic info, I.e., it’s tannin level, acidity, it’s body, etc.

If I tossed Casanova di Neri T Nuova in there for discussion, how would you you compare that to the Tig? I have had that. Thx!
Comment posted by oldwines:

3/8/2020 9:00:00 AM - In my experience Casanova di Nero is kind of in between the two...realizing that Tig is a SuperTuscan (i.e. Sangio + Cab + Merlot) and CdN and Valdicava are Brunello’s (i.e. 100% Sangiovese Grosso). CdN Tenuta Nouva is still more or less a modern wine but I have found it to be a little less ripe and fruit forward than Valdicava, with more elegance and complexity. All three are great wines in most vintages so it is somewhat a marginal difference in style and preference. Tig these days is the marginally better value usually. Sounds like you need to taste all three somehow!
Comment posted by 2020:

3/8/2020 8:21:00 PM - Yeah I realize I'm not exactly comparing things fairly due to grape variety. I know you know your wines so I wanted to ask. I appreciate the explanation.

I had a 2004 di Neri TN and it was amazing. It had something going on the nose that was just fascinating. It would show you different things if you paid attention to it and analyzed it. It was super cool.

It sure would be great to try all three, but I would settle on two :) There are some 2010 Valdicava's near me available. How do you feel about the 10' vintage?
Comment posted by oldwines:

3/8/2020 8:41:00 PM - I have not yet had any of mine but from what I can tell from others I know who have had it, it seems to be a little more restrained than usual though still a pretty powerful wine. I would give it a try if the price is attractive. Make sure to decant it and give it a couple hours of air. Taste little bits along the way every half hour or so and you will see how it adds density and flavor over time.
Comment posted by 2020:

3/8/2020 8:47:00 PM - Great advice.

The 10's would be around $105 a bottle. I did buy 3, 2013 of the Valdicava but have not tasted it before.

Or would you recommend waiting until the 2015's come to market? I looks like they are touting that as a great vintage too.