2017 Edmond Vatan Sancerre Clos la Néore
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geoffreychambertin Likes this wine:
95 Points
Saturday, October 17, 2020 - Singular. Lychee and pineapple and something reminiscent of oak (but not secondary characteristics). This was stunning.
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Comment posted by sman:
10/18/2020 2:24:00 PM - Hi,
odd. mye also noted oak. i don't think they use any new oak at all (let alone any oak barrels less than 5-10 years old) and Weygandt implies that Anne has not made significant élevage changes since taking over with the 2008 vintage.
I have not tasted the 2017 yet, but wines from 2012 and back have never had overt oakiness.
weygandt's website : "vinifying according only to the traditional (actually ancient) methods... Vinification in old tank; one racking, and then bottling with no fining or filtration when the conditions are perfect in nature."
maybe the website is out of date. Anne did marry a Foucault, so possibly he influenced a decision to ramp up the oak.
did you get the wine thru weygandt distribution?
Vatan is indeed singular...
best, Mark
Comment posted by geoffreychambertin:
10/18/2020 2:37:00 PM - He influenced my note as we'd talked about Vatan recently. I think there was a roundness and dryness that I typically map to oak, but it didn't have oaky flavors, if that makes sense.
Comment posted by sman:
10/19/2020 9:56:00 AM - so your note is more of a textural response than taste one. that might make sense given that Vatan has been a late picker, sometimes to the wine's detriment, and the roundness and dryness may reflect higher brix and therefore higher alcohol attained.
i don't track vintages like i have done in the past, and i don't know how warm the 2017 vintage was. a pineapple note always make me think of a warm vintage in german wines. but i have never tasted that in a Vatan wine. that's why i wondered about the provenance as well and whether it could be fake
the warm vintage 2009 is a good example in my book of a practice gone bad as it is an ungainly >15% alcohol. i drank one and sold the rest quickly. interestingly Edmond thought the 2009 was one of his best ever results.
Comment posted by mye:
10/23/2020 1:02:00 PM - I'm just too much of an influencer for Geoff LOL
Comment posted by sman:
12/20/2020 5:26:00 PM - hi
just wanted to mention i referenced you in my wine berserkers note. i mean it as a compliment! Friedrich, she of Loire writing fame, also sees oak in the Vatan wines!! you are in good company and i am outside looking in!!!