River School Auction Tasting (Washington DC): A nice wine but fairly obviously new world. Decent length and good flavor. A bit outclassed by its company. Still, Carole Meredith is my hero.
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Pretty surprised at the mixed reception this gets on CellarTracker. I thought this bottle was delicious. No decanting, as it replaced a bottle from a different producer that was corked. Loads of deep, dark berry fruit, rare meat and eventually a higher toned raspberry and lavender finish. Fine balance, so I have no worries about waiting on my last bottle. This should go on quite well for another 5-10 years with no problem. Nice way to commemorate the recent release of their 2020 Syrah, which is the next to last vintage.
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Note is well after consumption, so not detailed, but given I see some off experiences of late I'll chime in. My bottle was quite sound and quite excellent, belying it's age of over 12 years. It was Northern Rhone-ish in style and very enjoyable.
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Second flawed bottle and/or poor wine with four more to go. I don't have much hope. Horrible! Purchased from WineBid.com with no hope of returning for refund or replacement. Caveat emptor!
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I have been drinking wine for 12 years. This is the most acidic bottle yet. The nose was elegant, seductive, and beautiful. The palate was: Did someone squeeze lemon into my wine?
Seeing that there are some mixed reviews below. I am probably just one of the many unlucky ones to get a bad bottle.
Such a deep ruby red. Agree with alot of MattMauldin's notes below. After a bunch of dark red fruit in the front end, some bbq smoke shows halfway through in the mouth. Drink now as this is in the zone
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Two hour decant. Deep ruby color, clearing at the edges. Lively aromatics - showing snappy blackberry & currant, mesquite smoke, fresh violets, sassafras, tapenade, hints of bay leaf and clove. Succulent open fruit on the palate, secondary flavors consistent with the bouquet, and adding hints of melted stone and balsamic reduction. Medium-bodied, densely structured but pliable. Bright integrated acidity, and thick juicy tannins, slightly angular, finishing with nice length. Mid-secondary with hints of maturity on the palate, squarely in its drinking window.
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This wine was really drinking outstanding, it could have five to ten years ahead of it. Give it a little time in the glass the fruit really develops, very reminiscent of a northern Rhone.
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My palate favors acidic old-world style wines. I love Barolo, Burgundy, Sicily etc. I dislike flabby wines. Big fat California Pinots for instance - some of them that retail over $100 I find literally undrinkable.
So this review is not coming from a neophyte taster tuned to flabby high alcohol Michael David dreck. I've been interesting in wine for 30 years and have tasted 1000's and 1000's.
The acid level of this LM is absurd, totally out of balance. I would be shocked if it was natural acid - to me it comes across really clearly as added tartaric.
I'm not sure why the acid is so out of balance in this wine. I suspect that the winemakers, who are incredibly expert and dialed in, got too cute with this vintage, as people who are dialed in experts can sometimes tend to do. I seems to me that they were focused on "going for something" with this bottle (long cellar life then a big reveal, hipster searing acidic style, middle-finger to the fat syrahs all around them?) and in the process lost stepped-back perspective on the wine itself.
Or maybe some cellar rat just screwed up handling a big sack of acid.
At any rate, this wine opens out of balance with way too much acid, then fluffs up some around the acid masking it a little, but not enough. Then fades on the second day showing too much acid in its third and worse perspective.
I really like LM Syrahs, have issued many 90+ scores. But this one is requiring me to look at the imbalance and see the emperor's new cloths. As much as I want to be part of the acid and cool cult-wine loving intelligentsia, I'm calling this one as it hits my tongue: an utterly disappointing vintage from a normally solid label.
75 points - squarely in the middle of "below average" in CT's scoring guide.
To be fair this wine has a great nice nose. If one only had to smell it that would be ideal.
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Similar to my last bottle (see previous notes) but this wine took a lot of time to open up. After 2 1/2 - 3 hours it kept improving and changing from sip to sip. I have one left in my cellar that I will look to enjoy sometime soon!
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Much better after a few hours during which it gained some heft and a touch of sweetness that it needed. Still underwhelming on the acidic/shrill side, like a lesser Wind Gap, with the aroma outclassing the palate as at least one previous note observed. 87-89.
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This was a real surprise - Deep dark fruits on the nose, promising much - but then slightly startling acidity on the palate. Whilst finding aromas to enjoy in this, I'm not sure this wine really hangs together and looking at previous comments opinions seem divided. I drank this with lamb and if you can't drink a Syrah at this price with roast lamb - Well, I'm not sure where I'm going to go with this one!
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Big nose of savory black fruit with saddle and herb accents. Palate is similar in flavor. Moderate richness with plenty of balancing structure. Still in an early part of its drinking window.
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Absolutely too much acidity to enjoy, even with hearty food. Maybe just a bad bottle since it was purchased from an online auction website. Caveat Emptor.
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A terrific bottle of wine. Great QPR. Wondering if there is bottle variation on this based on previous notes. My bottle had great aromatics on the nose and had a rich and long finish on the palate. I got notes of blackberry, raspberry, a slight hint of forest floor, and some residual tannin. I have another two bottles. Can’t wait for the next one.
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Deep ruby. Aromas of black cherry, violets, black plums, hint of tomato leaf, vanilla. On the palate the wine is dry with medium plus acidity, medium fine integrated tannins, medium plus body with flavors of black cherry, black olive saltiness, black plums, chocolate, toast. Finish is medium and primarily of dark fruit. The wine surprisingly has aged nicely, and substantially better than the last bottle we opened (was that one spoiled)? This wine is well balanced with complex aroma and flavor palate, and a medium finish. The wine is very good, but the finish falls a bit short of expectation.
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A powerful, large-scale Syrah opened too soon along with an inappropriate food pairing. I think it deserves at least another 5 years before opening. But killer aromatics though.
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This was not my favorite vintage, but this was the best showing. Dark fruit, olive brine - leaning more towards old world. Acidity seems to be poking out a bit. It has been over 3 years since I had the 2009, and it is coming together, but maybe it needs more time.
Pop and pour and served with food at the end of a dinner. This was a bright and herbal wine, showing a wonderful mix of dark fruit with a savory element of mint and some eucalyptus. Clean and bright and mouth watering, with elements of a cool climate syrah. Enjoyable.
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Not sure what others are talking about. Cherries on the nose. Sour cherries and high acidity on the palette. I am wondering if the wine is turning into vinegar. Slightly depressed as I realize I have 5 more bottles and if they are as undrinkable, then this was a bust.
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Second night is better than the first. A lot of acid on the front, a nice savoriness in the middle, and very light pepper on the finish. A tiny bit of citrus going on with some sour cherry. Somewhere in between a syrah and a pinot?
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Huge cherry bomb. Would have certainly guessed Pinot blind and not Syrah. Love the tart cherry. Clipped on the finish. Medium soft tannins. Elegant Syrah. Layer of pepper. Different in a nice way.
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Sadly another flawed (?) bottle from this producer and year. Similar notes as past post. Weak, thin, lacking expression. From same restaurant as previously noted flawed bottle.
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Pop and pour. Fruit was reticent but improved with air. Fruit, spice and acidity showed with time.. Saved some for day 2 and the wine improved greatly. Good pairing with braised lamb shanks.
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Second tasting of this wine; purchased at wine store. Previously I found the wine unpleasant and perhaps off/flawed. This bottle was markedly different, and more in line with other positive reviews: beautiful, deep, long and plush nose of roasted dark fruits/tar; fine mouth and decent length. Very savory nose one wants to come back to. Length fine, but did not linger as did the nose.
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New World Blind Tasting Group $25+ (Bin 75): Opaque core, cloudy, lilac rim; violets, faint wild berry, plum skin, fresh, a little subdued on the nose, purple grape candy; deeper and denser fruit on the palate, sweet initially with a black olive and brine quality, almost black pepper, plusher mouthfeel; overall good not great, seemed a little advanced for 2009.
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Something is off here. The nose didn't offer much, but the palate was astringent and unpleasant. Lurking behind the astringency was dark, ripe fruit, but you had to look hard for it. All in all, a huge disappointment especially since I brought this to Aruba to share with friends.
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Perhaps it was an off bottle, or perhaps it was old. Thin, hard edged, linear, and astringent, with somewhat of an off nose, this bottle did not show well. Returned by restaurant for substitute selection.
the nose shows some nice white pepper and herbs, really attacks the palate with bright plum flavors, the blackberry, olive and black cherry skin flavors carry the mid-palate, the finish sails, good acidity, a beautiful bottle that is drinking well now and should continue on until 2020, nice value
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Secret Santa 2012. Good nose of blackberry, blueberry, black olive, and cracked pepper. On the palate, slightly funky with black and blue fruits, smoke, and pepper. Medium finish, slightly hot. Very nice package, I would be holding this for a few years if I had more.
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Decanted two or three hours. Kind of one dimensional for me. The finish was a bit hot and while the Syrah was good I just expected a lot more. Standard spicy red berries, touches of smoke and earth. Mid palate was fine and the weight was enjoyable - just that finish.
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Lagier Meredith Vertical (1999 thru 2010) + (Loren's Home): Mine and the groups last place wine. Not too shabby when your last place wine is still outstanding. But one of them had to be last, and this was it. Why? It think we all found it a bit less of everything. Less mouth feel, tannins and fruit. It is still quite good, but either it is shut down tight right now (a possibility) or just not the wine as other vintages. Time will tell, but as I said, still an outstanding wine.
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purple with red hues in the color. dark fruit, pepper, tar on the nose. coffee, cherry, black fruit on the palate. excellent balance of acid and tannins on the finish.
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My first LM. PnP. Was good at first, great after 2 hours. Deep and dark fruits. Beautiful mouthfeel with just enough acidity. Fairly long finish. I'm dragging myself away from drinking more than 1/2 the bottle by myself tonight. So glad I found this producer.
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Blue and black fruits, road tar, and pepper on the nose, explosive flavors touch every part of the palate, great balance and acidity, moderate tannins.
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Family Winemakers. Nose of beautiful cinnamon, cherry tart and earth, more of the same on the palate, big body, mouth filling, tasty, and a long finish.
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5/8/2023 - doctornoah Likes this wine: 88 Points
River School Auction Tasting (Washington DC): A nice wine but fairly obviously new world. Decent length and good flavor. A bit outclassed by its company. Still, Carole Meredith is my hero.
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4/6/2023 - mtaczak wrote:
my bottle was winery direct and well stored since purchased, but it also was tart and thin with little to offer 🤷♂️
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10/15/2022 - Rieslingfan wrote:
Pretty surprised at the mixed reception this gets on CellarTracker. I thought this bottle was delicious. No decanting, as it replaced a bottle from a different producer that was corked. Loads of deep, dark berry fruit, rare meat and eventually a higher toned raspberry and lavender finish. Fine balance, so I have no worries about waiting on my last bottle. This should go on quite well for another 5-10 years with no problem. Nice way to commemorate the recent release of their 2020 Syrah, which is the next to last vintage.
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2/17/2022 - MindMuse Likes this wine:
Note is well after consumption, so not detailed, but given I see some off experiences of late I'll chime in. My bottle was quite sound and quite excellent, belying it's age of over 12 years. It was Northern Rhone-ish in style and very enjoyable.
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7/11/2021 - oenophilemoose wrote: flawed
Second flawed bottle and/or poor wine with four more to go. I don't have much hope. Horrible! Purchased from WineBid.com with no hope of returning for refund or replacement. Caveat emptor!
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3/21/2021 - Drinkslogger Does not like this wine: flawed
I have been drinking wine for 12 years. This is the most acidic bottle yet. The nose was elegant, seductive, and beautiful. The palate was: Did someone squeeze lemon into my wine?
Seeing that there are some mixed reviews below. I am probably just one of the many unlucky ones to get a bad bottle.
Sad and disappointing.
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2/5/2021 - jfkwines wrote: 91 Points
Such a deep ruby red. Agree with alot of MattMauldin's notes below. After a bunch of dark red fruit in the front end, some bbq smoke shows halfway through in the mouth. Drink now as this is in the zone
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1/30/2021 - MattMauldin Likes this wine: 92 Points
Two hour decant. Deep ruby color, clearing at the edges. Lively aromatics - showing snappy blackberry & currant, mesquite smoke, fresh violets, sassafras, tapenade, hints of bay leaf and clove. Succulent open fruit on the palate, secondary flavors consistent with the bouquet, and adding hints of melted stone and balsamic reduction. Medium-bodied, densely structured but pliable. Bright integrated acidity, and thick juicy tannins, slightly angular, finishing with nice length. Mid-secondary with hints of maturity on the palate, squarely in its drinking window.
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11/16/2020 - DavidDay wrote: 94 Points
This wine was really drinking outstanding, it could have five to ten years ahead of it. Give it a little time in the glass the fruit really develops, very reminiscent of a northern Rhone.
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5/1/2020 - hankj Does not like this wine: 75 Points
My palate favors acidic old-world style wines. I love Barolo, Burgundy, Sicily etc. I dislike flabby wines. Big fat California Pinots for instance - some of them that retail over $100 I find literally undrinkable.
So this review is not coming from a neophyte taster tuned to flabby high alcohol Michael David dreck. I've been interesting in wine for 30 years and have tasted 1000's and 1000's.
The acid level of this LM is absurd, totally out of balance. I would be shocked if it was natural acid - to me it comes across really clearly as added tartaric.
I'm not sure why the acid is so out of balance in this wine. I suspect that the winemakers, who are incredibly expert and dialed in, got too cute with this vintage, as people who are dialed in experts can sometimes tend to do. I seems to me that they were focused on "going for something" with this bottle (long cellar life then a big reveal, hipster searing acidic style, middle-finger to the fat syrahs all around them?) and in the process lost stepped-back perspective on the wine itself.
Or maybe some cellar rat just screwed up handling a big sack of acid.
At any rate, this wine opens out of balance with way too much acid, then fluffs up some around the acid masking it a little, but not enough. Then fades on the second day showing too much acid in its third and worse perspective.
I really like LM Syrahs, have issued many 90+ scores. But this one is requiring me to look at the imbalance and see the emperor's new cloths. As much as I want to be part of the acid and cool cult-wine loving intelligentsia, I'm calling this one as it hits my tongue: an utterly disappointing vintage from a normally solid label.
75 points - squarely in the middle of "below average" in CT's scoring guide.
To be fair this wine has a great nice nose. If one only had to smell it that would be ideal.
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4/25/2020 - travelme wrote: 91 Points
Similar to my last bottle (see previous notes) but this wine took a lot of time to open up. After 2 1/2 - 3 hours it kept improving and changing from sip to sip. I have one left in my cellar that I will look to enjoy sometime soon!
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4/3/2020 - silton wrote: 88 Points
Much better after a few hours during which it gained some heft and a touch of sweetness that it needed. Still underwhelming on the acidic/shrill side, like a lesser Wind Gap, with the aroma outclassing the palate as at least one previous note observed. 87-89.
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1/26/2020 - MissHighwater wrote: 89 Points
This was a real surprise - Deep dark fruits on the nose, promising much - but then slightly startling acidity on the palate. Whilst finding aromas to enjoy in this, I'm not sure this wine really hangs together and looking at previous comments opinions seem divided. I drank this with lamb and if you can't drink a Syrah at this price with roast lamb - Well, I'm not sure where I'm going to go with this one!
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1/2/2020 - Nanda wrote: 91 Points
Big nose of savory black fruit with saddle and herb accents. Palate is similar in flavor. Moderate richness with plenty of balancing structure. Still in an early part of its drinking window.
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6/24/2019 - oenophilemoose wrote:
Absolutely too much acidity to enjoy, even with hearty food. Maybe just a bad bottle since it was purchased from an online auction website. Caveat Emptor.
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3/16/2019 - travelme Likes this wine: 92 Points
A terrific bottle of wine. Great QPR. Wondering if there is bottle variation on this based on previous notes. My bottle had great aromatics on the nose and had a rich and long finish on the palate. I got notes of blackberry, raspberry, a slight hint of forest floor, and some residual tannin. I have another two bottles. Can’t wait for the next one.
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10/13/2018 - dbay Likes this wine: 90 Points
Deep ruby. Aromas of black cherry, violets, black plums, hint of tomato leaf, vanilla. On the palate the wine is dry with medium plus acidity, medium fine integrated tannins, medium plus body with flavors of black cherry, black olive saltiness, black plums, chocolate, toast. Finish is medium and primarily of dark fruit. The wine surprisingly has aged nicely, and substantially better than the last bottle we opened (was that one spoiled)? This wine is well balanced with complex aroma and flavor palate, and a medium finish. The wine is very good, but the finish falls a bit short of expectation.
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6/29/2018 - gwilliams68 Does not like this wine:
overly acidic. Don,t hold out much hope for other 5 bottles.
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4/6/2018 - theRealPepe wrote:
A powerful, large-scale Syrah opened too soon along with an inappropriate food pairing. I think it deserves at least another 5 years before opening. But killer aromatics though.
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9/15/2017 - Diane (LI) wrote:
This was not my favorite vintage, but this was the best showing. Dark fruit, olive brine - leaning more towards old world. Acidity seems to be poking out a bit. It has been over 3 years since I had the 2009, and it is coming together, but maybe it needs more time.
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8/26/2017 - Tarpon222 wrote: 89 Points
Good color, nice nose, syrah rich, unimpressive finish. Drank over 3 nights and didn't see much change. Maybe just not my style
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12/24/2016 - t_moderne wrote: 90 Points
Pop and pour and served with food at the end of a dinner.
This was a bright and herbal wine, showing a wonderful mix of dark fruit with a savory element of mint and some eucalyptus. Clean and bright and mouth watering, with elements of a cool climate syrah.
Enjoyable.
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10/18/2016 - TastesGoodToMe wrote: flawed
I hate when this happens. Flawed.
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5/18/2016 - dbay Does not like this wine: 75 Points
Not sure what others are talking about. Cherries on the nose. Sour cherries and high acidity on the palette. I am wondering if the wine is turning into vinegar. Slightly depressed as I realize I have 5 more bottles and if they are as undrinkable, then this was a bust.
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3/21/2016 - amoryb wrote:
Second night is better than the first. A lot of acid on the front, a nice savoriness in the middle, and very light pepper on the finish. A tiny bit of citrus going on with some sour cherry. Somewhere in between a syrah and a pinot?
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3/3/2016 - The ToolMan wrote: 91 Points
Huge cherry bomb. Would have certainly guessed Pinot blind and not Syrah. Love the tart cherry. Clipped on the finish. Medium soft tannins. Elegant Syrah. Layer of pepper. Different in a nice way.
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1/29/2016 - marshalc wrote: flawed
Sadly another flawed (?) bottle from this producer and year. Similar notes as past post. Weak, thin, lacking expression. From same restaurant as previously noted flawed bottle.
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1/22/2016 - Sweet Nancy Likes this wine:
Pop and pour. Fruit was reticent but improved with air. Fruit, spice and acidity showed with time.. Saved some for day 2 and the wine improved greatly. Good pairing with braised lamb shanks.
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3/29/2015 - marshalc Likes this wine: 93 Points
Second tasting of this wine; purchased at wine store. Previously I found the wine unpleasant and perhaps off/flawed. This bottle was markedly different, and more in line with other positive reviews: beautiful, deep, long and plush nose of roasted dark fruits/tar; fine mouth and decent length. Very savory nose one wants to come back to. Length fine, but did not linger as did the nose.
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2/14/2015 - Rezy13 wrote:
New World Blind Tasting Group $25+ (Bin 75): Opaque core, cloudy, lilac rim; violets, faint wild berry, plum skin, fresh, a little subdued on the nose, purple grape candy; deeper and denser fruit on the palate, sweet initially with a black olive and brine quality, almost black pepper, plusher mouthfeel; overall good not great, seemed a little advanced for 2009.
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11/1/2014 - Mike Dildine wrote: 93 Points
Black fruit, leather, olive, pepper ... Very nice indeed.
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5/4/2014 - Diane (LI) wrote:
Something is off here. The nose didn't offer much, but the palate was astringent and unpleasant. Lurking behind the astringency was dark, ripe fruit, but you had to look hard for it. All in all, a huge disappointment especially since I brought this to Aruba to share with friends.
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5/3/2014 - marshalc wrote: flawed
Perhaps it was an off bottle, or perhaps it was old. Thin, hard edged, linear, and astringent, with somewhat of an off nose, this bottle did not show well. Returned by restaurant for substitute selection.
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1/24/2014 - whits Likes this wine: 92 Points
the nose shows some nice white pepper and herbs, really attacks the palate with bright plum flavors, the blackberry, olive and black cherry skin flavors carry the mid-palate, the finish sails, good acidity, a beautiful bottle that is drinking well now and should continue on until 2020, nice value
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12/1/2013 - GalvezGuy Likes this wine: 90 Points
Secret Santa 2012. Good nose of blackberry, blueberry, black olive, and cracked pepper. On the palate, slightly funky with black and blue fruits, smoke, and pepper. Medium finish, slightly hot. Very nice package, I would be holding this for a few years if I had more.
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11/4/2013 - suarezd wrote: 87 Points
At 1760. Medium nose of red fruits, mild menthol. Palate of cherry, raspberry. Ok acid and tannin. Decent wine but nothing special.
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9/23/2013 - Mike Dildine Likes this wine: 94 Points
Charactistic focus, intensity, depth and peppery spice.
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8/16/2013 - beezer6 wrote: 89 Points
Decanted two or three hours.
Kind of one dimensional for me. The finish was a bit hot and while the Syrah was good I just expected a lot more.
Standard spicy red berries, touches of smoke and earth. Mid palate was fine and the weight was enjoyable - just that finish.
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5/17/2013 - Mike Dildine Likes this wine: 93 Points
One of my favorite syrahs steps up, as always.
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5/3/2013 - Loren Sonkin wrote: 90 Points
Lagier Meredith Vertical (1999 thru 2010) + (Loren's Home): Mine and the groups last place wine. Not too shabby when your last place wine is still outstanding. But one of them had to be last, and this was it. Why? It think we all found it a bit less of everything. Less mouth feel, tannins and fruit. It is still quite good, but either it is shut down tight right now (a possibility) or just not the wine as other vintages. Time will tell, but as I said, still an outstanding wine.
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3/25/2013 - Mike Dildine Likes this wine: 93 Points
Always one of my favorite syrahs, the 09 is particularly fine.
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12/8/2012 - affordableCollector wrote: 90 Points
purple with red hues in the color. dark fruit, pepper, tar on the nose. coffee, cherry, black fruit on the palate. excellent balance of acid and tannins on the finish.
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8/13/2012 - overspeed62 wrote: 94 Points
My first LM. PnP. Was good at first, great after 2 hours. Deep and dark fruits. Beautiful mouthfeel with just enough acidity. Fairly long finish. I'm dragging myself away from drinking more than 1/2 the bottle by myself tonight. So glad I found this producer.
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3/25/2012 - Martin Redmond wrote: 91 Points
2012 Rhone Rangers Grand Tasting (San Francisco, Fort Mason Festival Pavillion): Dark red fruit, and pepper aromas. Medium-bodied with intense black cherry, raspberry, expresso flavors.
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3/25/2012 - DavidDay wrote: 93 Points
Blue and black fruits, road tar, and pepper on the nose, explosive flavors touch every part of the palate, great balance and acidity, moderate tannins.
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12/26/2011 - alanr Likes this wine: 94 Points
Deeply intense, rich, dark boysenberry fruit, lip smacking acidity, this disappeared in a hurry on Christmas eve. Beautiful syrah.
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8/21/2011 - bestdamncab Likes this wine: 92 Points
Family Winemakers. Nose of beautiful cinnamon, cherry tart and earth, more of the same on the palate, big body, mouth filling, tasty, and a long finish.
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