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 Vintage2008 Label 1 of 14 
TypeWhite
ProducerDomaine Christian Moreau Père et Fils (web)
VarietyChardonnay
Designationn/a
VineyardVaudésir
CountryFrance
RegionBurgundy
SubRegionChablis
AppellationChablis Grand Cru

Drinking Windows and Values
Drinking window: Drink between 2012 and 2023 (based on 9 user opinions)
Wine Market Journal quarterly auction price: See Christian Moreau Chablis Vaudesir on the Wine Market Journal.

Community Tasting History

Community Tasting Notes (average 90.1 pts. and median of 91 pts. in 34 notes) - hiding notes with no text

 Tasted by Sheila62 on 10/31/2022: this is great. Expected premox and got freshness, fruit, and mineralitt. love it (579 views)
 Tasted by acyso on 11/19/2021 & rated 88 points: Wines with 312 Fish Market (Chicago, IL): Nascent secondary characteristics on the nose; I quite like the implied acidity and the maturing yellow fruit here. The palate I thought was a fair bit weaker than the nose; this had a weird disjoint character as if you blended some Chablis aged in stainless steel with some aged in oak. This isn't too integrated, and while it has good overall weight and material, it just doesn't feel put together right. (1862 views)
 Tasted by beatles on 10/21/2021 & rated 93 points: In a great place. Very fersh indeed with plenty of citrus, yet has great depth, minerals, hints of honey, butter and a long finish; will live on, but why?
#Kandestderne (1756 views)
 Tasted by aagrawal on 5/18/2021 & rated 89 points: Dinner with the wine group (Millbrae, CA): Golden; richly aromatic, caramel, some white fruits; palate is full bodied, seems mature but not overly so, medium-plus acidity, medium alcohol, mature white fruits; finish is medium length. Fully mature, drink now. 89 (1703 views)
 Tasted by Rollerball on 2/19/2021: Funky nose like a waterfall of lanolin bee stings, vivid greens, and hay. Took the palate at least an hour's air to start braiding with it, but the whole path grabs your attention. Outstanding if a tad disjointed at first. Drink now. (1389 views)
 Tasted by VinVet on 4/26/2020 & rated 93 points: Awesome wine in every respect. (1142 views)
 Tasted by hoservin on 3/19/2020 & rated 92 points: Aromatic. Classic Chablis notes of apple, pear, lemon and limestone on the nose and palate. Excellent mouth feel and weight. Elegantly balanced acidity and soft mineral character. Finishes with good length. A very pretty wine. Served with baked flounder and herb butter. (806 views)
 Tasted by hoservin on 1/18/2019 & rated 91 points: Apple, pear, brioche, lemon zest and sea shell. Long finish with balanced acidity and soft minerality. Served with tortellini and spinach soup. (1213 views)
 Tasted by hoservin on 7/15/2016 & rated 92 points: Apple, pear, lemon and limestone on the nose and palate. Finishes bright, crisp and dry. Excellent acidic balance. Paired with lobster rolls. (2156 views)
 Tasted by Old John on 4/26/2014 & rated 92 points: Good textbook chablis. A little on the austere side but very sound and balanced with typical mineral and citrus notes. (3155 views)
 Tasted by Buick455 on 3/28/2014 & rated 93 points: This is just so good. Drank over 2 days. Light green/yellow color. Apple, Lemon, citrus palate. Creamy texture. Very nice balance. Long finish. (2931 views)
 Tasted by hoservin on 1/24/2014 & rated 92 points: Served at cellar temperature. Notes of apple, lemon zest, sea shell, and a hint of spice on the nose and palate. Leads to a long, velvety smooth, dry finish. Excellent mineral characteristics and acidic balance. Paired with shrimp, mushrooms and artichoke hearts. (2968 views)
 Tasted by maxfischer on 1/14/2014 & rated 92 points: Stunning nose, flinty and citrus. No real hint of oak. Firm but not bracing on the palate. Long long finish. (2665 views)
 Tasted by VinVet on 3/17/2012 & rated 91 points: 2008 Domaine Christian Moreau Pere & Fils Chablis Grand Cru Vaudesir
citrus apple and vanilla on the nose hinting at its oak exposure which is not something I expect in a Chablis - smooth well integrated flavors of citrus & subtle oak vanilla with a longer than usual almost cloying finish . (2515 views)
 Tasted by Fantomas on 1/24/2012 & rated 88 points: Pale yellow colour, long legs on the glass. Cool nose of lime and minerals, some grapefruit and straw. On the palate lots of fresh lime, minerals, white pepper and graphite. Nice and balanced acidity. Medium length without any particular lasting sensation, maybe some very subtle red apple. (2055 views)
 Tasted by joe d on 12/31/2011 & rated 85 points: More structured and Chablis-like than the bottle a year ago. Good minerality with a hint of oak that was a touch intrusive here. Based on this showing I would leave these for some time. My discrete CT scale: 95-extraordinary; 90-very good; 85-good; 80-fair; 75-poor (2014 views)
 Tasted by rjonwine@gmail.com on 8/7/2011 & rated 92 points: All-Chablis Euro Lunch: Fèvre, Raveneau, Brocard (Donato Enoteca, Redwood City, California): Light yellow color; nice, focused, apple, ripe lemon, hazelnut shavings nose; creamy textured, medium bodied, poised, tart lemon, mineral palate with medium acidity; medium-plus finish (45% for 7 mos. in barriques) (2356 views)
 Tasted by decaturwinedude on 6/17/2011 & rated 89 points: Pronounced nose of shells, sea water, and green apple. Packs a wicked pop to the mouth at this point in its life. Structure and acid packed and stacked. Really powerful palate and teeth cleanser right now. Wow. A lot going. Killing babies, but I knew that going in. See you in a few years. (2346 views)
 Tasted by Gargantua on 2/12/2011 & rated 88 points: La Paulée de New York 2011: Nicer cleaner nose, still tight: served nearly freezing cold. The pourers should be ashamed. (3578 views)
 Tasted by ews3 on 2/12/2011 & rated 85 points: La Paulee de NY - Grand Tasting (2008 Vintage) (Metropolitan Pavilion, NYC): served too cold. couldn't get much off of this. (6212 views)
 Tasted by joe d on 1/23/2011 & rated 85 points: A little less cut than I expected from a 2008 Grand Cru Chablis. Very nice, pretty open for business if not exactly ready to drink.
My discrete CT scale: 95-extraordinary; 90-very good; 85-good; 80-fair; 75-poor (2276 views)
 Tasted by lepetitchateau on 11/12/2010 & rated 92 points: Perhaps I am over-rating this, but I find the 2008s so superior to the 2009s, that this first 2008 comes as a welcome breeze! A step up over the 2009s in integration and character - lots of dry extract, rich and well-balanced fruit. At the back of the attack, there is a touch of weakness. Yield was 30-35 ha/hl, with the young vines yeild limited. (1762 views)
 Tasted by hutch on 9/20/2010 & rated 91 points: Wildman's Sancerre and Jolivet (Matunuck Oyster Bat): Again a little muted on the nose. A slight saltiness. Very bright. There's some spice here as well. Quite complex. 91-92 (2992 views)
 Tasted by amateurwino on 2/12/2010 & rated 90 points: Earth and light fruits on nose; some rich fruit here; better balanced, this is getting quite pleasing. 90-91 (2361 views)
 Tasted by hutch on 2/4/2010 & rated 92 points: Wildman 2008 Burg Preview (Boston, MA): Great purity. Saline, minerality. Delicious stuff. 91-92 (3458 views)
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Professional 'Channels'
By Allen Meadows
Burghound, October 2010, Issue #40
(Domaine Christian Moreau Père et Fils Chablis - Vaudésir Grand Cru White) Subscribe to see review text.
By Allen Meadows
Burghound, October 2009, Issue #36
(Domaine Christian Moreau Pere et Fils Chablis Vaudésir Grand Cru White) Subscribe to see review text.
By Stephen Tanzer
Vinous, July/August 2009, IWC Issue #145
(Domaine Christian Moreau Pere et Fils Chablis Vaudesir) Subscribe to see review text.
By Richard Jennings
RJonWine.com (8/7/2011)
(Domaine Christian Moreau Père et Fils Chablis Grand Cru Vaudésir) Light yellow color; nice, focused, apple, ripe lemon, hazelnut shavings nose; creamy textured, medium bodied, poised, tart lemon, mineral palate with medium acidity; medium-plus finish (45% for 7 mos. in barriques)  92 points
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Domaine Christian Moreau Père et Fils

Producer website

Christian Moreau, former director of J. Moreau & Fils in Burgundy's Chablis region, is unveiling a new project in Chablis. Three wines of the new Christian Moreau Pére & Fils label—a Chablis 1999, a premier cru Vaillons 1999 and a small amount of grand cru Les Clos 1999—will reach wine shops in the United States this spring.

The new wines are made from purchased grapes, but Moreau will regain the use of his own premiers and grands crus vineyards in 2001, after the expiration of his contract to supply grapes to J. Moreau & Fils, which is now owned by Burgundy giant Boisset. Among Moreau's vineyard holdings are 25 acres of grand cru Vaudisir, Valmur and Les Clos, including the tiny Clos des Hospices, a coveted 5.3-acre monopole, or single-owner vineyard, in the heart of Les Clos.

Joining Moreau as winemaker is his son Fabien, who studied enology at Dijon University. "There will be no more vins de table," said the elder Moreau. "I want to stay on the small side and control the quality." To achieve growth from 250 cases to 6,500 cases annually, Moreau purchased one of the William Févre wineries from Bouchard Pére & Fils.

The new Christian Moreau Chablis, Vaillons and Les Clos, not yet rated, will sell for about $17, $28 and $50, respectively. Frederick Wildman & Sons of New York, whose contract with J. Moreau & Fils ended recently, is the importer, continuing the relationship that Christian Moreau's father, Guy, began in 1938.

Chardonnay

The Chardonnay Grape

Vaudésir

at weinlagen.info

Vaudesir is one of the seven official climats of the Chablis Grand Cru white wine appellation. The vineyard – planted entirely to Chardonnay – sits atop the Grand Cru hill, overlooking the town of Chablis below. Vaudesir Grand Cru wines tend to be softer and more elegant than other Chablis Grand Cru wines, with floral characters rounding out Chablis' iconic minerality.

The vineyard covers 42 acres (17ha) of steep land above the Grenouilles Grand Cru site on the hill, just east of Preuses. The vineyard is shaped like an amphitheatre, and is cut through by a track known as the "Chemin des Vaudesirs", giving it a double orientation. Half of its vines face due south, with the remainder facing southwest.

This topography helps to distinguish Vaudesir from other vineyard sites, as the steep slopes provide some protection from northerly winds and vines instead benefit from good exposure to sunlight. This moderates temperatures in the cool Chablis climate, giving Vaudesir a favorable mesoclimate where grapes can develop phenolic ripeness alongside acidity. This leads to balanced wines with lighter body than some of its more exposed neighbors.

Another crucial factor in the Vaudesir terroir is the soils, which tend to be lighter than in the other Grand Cru climats. Although they are still based on the same Kimmeridgian subsoil that sits beneath the rest of the Grand Cru hill, soils in Vaudesir tend toward clay rather than limestone. The lower proportions of limestone here have led to a wine with a more refined minerality: Vaudesir Grand Cru wines lack the muscularity of Les Clos or Valmur wines.

Vaudesir is home to the La Moutonne vineyard: a six-acre (2.5ha) site that is not officially part of the AOC law, but is often considered to be the eighth Chablis Grand Cru.

France

Vins de France (Office National Interprofessionnel des Vins ) | Pages Vins, Directory of French Winegrowers | French Wine (Wikipedia)

Wine Scholar Guild vintage ratings

2018 vintage: "marked by a wet spring, a superb summer and a good harvest"
2019 vintage reports
2021: "From a general standpoint, whether for white, rosé or red wines, 2021 is a year marked by quality in the Rhône Valley Vineyards. Structured, elegant, fresh and fruity will be the main keywords for this new vintage."
2022 harvest: idealwine.info | wine-searcher.com

Burgundy

Les vins de Bourgogne (Bureau interprofessionnel des vins de Bourgogne) (and in English)

Burgundy - The province of eastern France, famous for its red wines produced from Pinot Noir and its whites produced from Chardonnay. (Small of amounts of Gamay and Aligoté are still grown, although these have to be labeled differently.) The most famous part of the region is known as the Cote d'Or (the Golden Slope). It is divided into the Cote de Beaune, south of the town of Beaune (famous principally for its whites), and the Cote de Nuits, North of Beaune (home of the most famous reds). In addition, the Cote Chalonnaise and the Maconnais are important wine growing regions, although historically a clear level (or more) below the Cote d'Or. Also included by some are the regions of Chablis and Auxerrois, farther north.

Burgundy Report | Les Grands Jours de Bourgogne - na stejné téma od Heleny Baker

# 2013 Vintage Notes:
* "2013 is a vintage that 20 years ago would have been a disaster." - Will Lyons
* "low yields and highly variable reds, much better whites." - Bill Nanson
* "Virtually all wines were chaptalised, with a bit of sugar added before fermentation to increase the final alcohol level." - Jancis Robinson

# 2014 Vintage Notes:
"We have not had such splendid harvest weather for many years. This will ensure high quality (fragrant, classy and succulent are words already being used) across the board, up and down the hierarchy and well as consistently from south to north geographically apart from those vineyards ravaged by the hail at the end of June." - Clive Coates

# 2015 Vintage Notes:
"Low yields and warm weather allowed for ample ripeness, small berries and an early harvest. Quality is looking extremely fine, with some people whispering comparisons with the outstanding 2005 vintage. Acid levels in individual wines may be crucial." - Jancis Robinson

# 2017 Vintage Notes:
"Chablis suffered greatly from frost in 2017, resulting in very reduced volumes. As ever, the irony seems to be that what remains is very good quality, as it is in the Côte d’Or. Cooler nights across the region have resulted in higher-than-usual acidity, with good conditions throughout the harvest season allowing for ripe, healthy fruit." - Jancis Robinson

# 2018 Vintage Notes:
"The most successful region for red Burgundy in 2018 was the Côte de Beaune. The weather was ideal in this area, with just enough sunlight and rain to produce perfectly balanced wines naturally." - Vinfolio

Chablis

Chablis (Fédération de Défense de l'Appellation Chablis) | Chablis (Burgundy Wines)

2014 Vintage Notes:
"... a hybrid of 2004/2007 and 2010. The stone, citrus and limestone amalgam is exactly what we search for in Chablis as the style harkens to a day in the Cote de Beaune proper (1960's - 1980's) when wine was not meant to be consumed the week it was released, battonage was not used by all and new oak was rarely seen ... the texture is natural and 'of the vintage' not 'of the winemaker' .... Like Sancerre or the Loire in general, 2014 in Chablis is one of those rare years with extract and transparency. It appears to be a vintage for the "neoclassic" ages and those of us intent on cellaring the most terroir-driven (but still powerful) examples of vineyard, site-place and varietal will want to invest (heavily) in the magnetic and electric 2014's." - Jon Rimmerman

2018 Vintage Notes:
"There’s not that razor sharp Chablis acidity in 2018,” says Patrick Piuze. “But there is good definition of place. The dry conditions drove vines to drink deeper down in the soil profile."

https://weinlagen-info.de/#bereich_id=58 Single vineyards on weinlagen-info James Suckling

 
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