2010 Turley Petite Syrah Hayne Vineyard
Community Tasting Note
guitarguy wrote:
89 Points
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 - Turley often coaxes lighter flavors and relatively early drinkability out of their Petite Syrahs. This particular bottle, however, was pretty ripe, almost too much so, with cherry-plum, baked notes and dry, dusty tannins extending from a loamy, freshly crushed red grape nose. Just okay and I’d suggest an shortish drinking window. 2010 and 2011 were meh vintages for northern CA zin (Petite Syrah). I’m concentrating on removing these years from my cellar. A wine like this goes to show that all of us raters and the critics are all full of shit when we speculate about 13 years down the road.
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Comment posted by RichEB1:
7/18/2023 8:55:00 PM - I appreciate the note....but I am super confused by almost everything that you wrote. Did you possibly enter this for the wrong wine? First off, you mention this is their 'house' bottling....but Turley does not own Hayne Vineyard (Chase Cellars does I believe). Turley does have an Estate Vineyard....but this ain't it.
Second, you reference that these Hayne Petite Sirahs are usually easy/early drinkers. I've been enjoying these for years and I have almost always found the opposite to be true. Tegan has definitely shifted the winemaking a bit (in a very good way) to a more balanced and fairly accessible style vs. The Ehren Jordan era....but I would never call them 'early drinkers' and don't plan on touching most of my 10's for a number of years. Patience is greatly rewarded with these wines.
Next, you state that Hayne Vineyard is in Paso. It is not. It's in St. Helena.....which is a bit different :)
Last, I don't see how you can put 2010 and 2011 vintages in the same bucket. While they both had their challenges, they were very different years, I've actually found most 2010's zins and PS to be delicious now but with the structure to age gracefully. YMMV of course.
Sorry for the rant my guy, but like I said, I was pretty confused, ha! Cheers!
Comment posted by guitarguy:
7/18/2023 10:22:00 PM - I confused location with Pesenti, the vineyard they own out behind the Paso winery. Stupid, late night mistake. My Turley direct subscription goes back into the early ‘00’s and the rest of my notes and observations stand. Petite Sirahs (i) have long thought to be big, huge tannic monsters in CA but I’ve long marveled at Turley’s ability to make Petite Syrahs (y) drinkable earlier, often more so than Zins from the same vineyard. I’ve long considered dropping Hayne, I’ve never once felt they’re worth the $ but I’m stupid and keep buying them. In general, I’ve come to believe Turleys should be consumed earlier before they become pruned trash. But alas my inventory is too great and I’ll die before I catch up. As for winemaker, I’ve always felt Jordan got way over his skis with ripeness. Passalacqua has a significantly lighter hand. Oh, and I just said the both 10 and 11 were meh in NorCal, at least for zin and PS by extension since they’re often grown in similar locations or even as field blends. Many vintage charts bear this out. I think 2010 was about the time Tim Fish took over Zin at WS and I was convinced he hated Zinfandel. Maybe he got it right all along.
Comment posted by RichEB1:
7/19/2023 6:42:00 AM - Gotcha. Welp....agree to disagree then (other than Tegan having a lighter hand which I definitely agree with and alluded to in my first comment). But that's what makes this hobby fun - everyone can have different opinions and that's ok. I appreciate the context and will gladly rid you of your Hayne's if you ever want to get rid of them ;) Cheers!