2016 Il Poggione (Proprietá Franceschi) Brunello di Montalcino
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jpbach13C wrote:
flawed
Friday, October 20, 2023 - Corked.
Changed note to no rating to keep the whiners happy. it seems rating a corked wine is somehow inappropriate. Whatever. Amateurs. Some winemakers have a lot of corked wines and others (Rousseau,Vogue, for example) never do.
If I could magically remove the taint this would be a good bottle in the 90s but IT ISN’T. It is near undrinkable … thus low score. The winemaker contributed to this problem as it obviously left the winery with some sort of taint. So THIS BOTTLE has a low score.
This is why I can rarely be bothered to post notes.
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Comment posted by jpbach13C:
10/20/2023 8:05:00 PM - Some jackass (rkliu) who has reviewed 18 lousy wines thought a “corked” note was irrelevant. Buddy, you need to give your head a shake. You think I’m “ruining” cellar tracker. That’s a laugh.
I can admit I’m lazy but I find corked and pre-moxed notes to be very useful.
Comment posted by jbposell:
10/20/2023 8:19:00 PM - Scoring a corked wine?
Comment posted by Eric:
10/20/2023 8:45:00 PM - We have a checkbox to note when a wine is flawed. That is actually the site policy. Please just use that.
Comment posted by rkliu:
10/20/2023 9:39:00 PM - I didn’t say your review was irrelevant, but I thought it was too harsh to rate it 78 pts because of a corked bottle. Your original review was just a single word “corked” and a score of 78 without any reasons. How can this be helpful? Also, there are still many users in CellarsTracker who drink “lousy” wines like me. If you are truly a wine pro, I think you should be more respectful to wine amateurs too.
Comment posted by jpbach13C:
10/21/2023 3:16:00 PM - Thx eric. I will comply with policy if I post a note again.
Comment posted by Eric:
10/21/2023 3:37:00 PM - Much appreciated. And to be clear, it is totally cool to post notes on defective/flawed bottles. As you note, it can expose a trend that goes beyond specific bottles. Just use that checkbox. What I do if scoring is just note in the text of the note what I might score. (It's always sad when you can sense a good wine behind the TCA...)
Comment posted by jpbach13C:
10/21/2023 4:37:00 PM - It’s always a good bottle. :)
I probably post one note for every 100 bottles I taste. Can’t handle the back seat driving and chirping. Over time I’ve realized that I can only take ratings with a grain of salt as there are a lot of people posting with very different levels of knowledge and experience.
I tasted through about 150 bottles a few weeks ago in Italy. It was fun.
The most memorable were the elegant ones … soldera, Montevertine and Stella di Campalto. Montevertine is a smoking deal and I’m glad it remains on almost nobody’s radar. Oops.
Comment posted by Eric:
10/21/2023 4:46:00 PM - Mmm, Soldera...
You can change your setting so no one can comment on your notes. No chirping if you don't want it.
Comment posted by jpbach13C:
10/21/2023 4:56:00 PM - I’m going to be an adult and accept the criticism. I was having a grumpy night. I also prefer to
comply with the rules and realize I should pay attention to them. I’m gonna make up for the shoddy poggione with a bachelet charmes 2015. Infanticide but who cares.
Comment posted by Eric:
10/21/2023 5:57:00 PM - Cheers, I hope it shows well!
Comment posted by jpbach13C:
10/21/2023 7:02:00 PM - Just posted TN. Very challenging to buy in my market. I’d buy a case a year if someone would sell it to me.