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Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 2008 base. 2014deg
Not a fantastic showing this time - but still good. Felt like it was in a inbetween phase. I will be storing my regular bottles longer and my magnums at least 5 years.

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  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/5/2020 7:11:00 AM - How much longer are you going to give it on the 750s to rest? Thx.

  • Comment posted by RolfT:

    9/5/2020 9:18:00 AM - I've tasted many older CH brut reserves that have kept really well, and the 07base has been drinking perfectly for many years - based on this, I'm in no rush. The 08 should be drinking well now as well, maybe the above bottle was just a little bit off.

  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/5/2020 5:28:00 PM - Good to know. Thank you!

    I’m kinda starting to read/learn that ALL of Charles Heidsieck’s seems to all age well. You agree?

  • Comment posted by RolfT:

    9/8/2020 10:51:00 PM - I do.

    Best experience was a 1997base (the 1998 mis en cave) tasted 3 years ago.

  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/9/2020 10:41:00 AM - And that was the NV base bottle? You laid down a NV for 20 years?

  • Comment posted by RolfT:

    9/10/2020 9:08:00 AM - Yes its equivalent to the regular Brut Reserve we have nowadays.

    I guess the 1997 base was released some time around 2001-2003. So, yeah, a good 15 years post release ageing and it held up fine. But of course its depends on individual taste how aged you enjoy your champagne. But this bottle was in perfect shape, no sherry or tired or oxidative notes, just dark concentrated flavours like coffee, honey, etc.

    If stored well and high quality NV from houses like Charles Heidsieck, Billecart Salmon, Louis Roederer, etc. can easily keep 10-15 years or more.

  • Comment posted by 2020:

    9/10/2020 1:39:00 PM - Wow. So impressive from a NV product and at the costs they can be had for if wisely shopped. A village level wine in the U.S. might cost you with these do and good luck equaling the results you’ve described.

    How do you feel about aging NV from the some of the growers? Is the same success possible with say Bereche, Pierre Peters, or Marc Hebrart?

    Thanks for all the information!

  • Comment posted by RolfT:

    9/14/2020 10:46:00 AM - The NVs form growers are more variable as they have less flexibility with geography and reserve wine stocks, but in quality base vintages, they can also age very well.

    Although most NV (Grande Marque AND growers) can age really well, my experience is that they often do not reach nearly same heights as pure vintage and prestige champagnes. So I am mostly cellaring the latter.

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