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I'm contemplating something similar for my out building to make it a sanitary winery. My main issue there is bird invasion into the eaves and ceiling spaces, as well as lack of or inadequate utilities, water, power, sewer, HVAC. I'm going to bid it/cost it our both ways, gut and remodel, or bulldoze and start from scratch at the foundation, or even new foot print. Bulldozing and full demolition is remarkably cheap. The reconstruction part is more expensive and code kicks in, but overall the end product might be more desirable. Have you thought about that Hollow?
Yeah, pondered it.
The big problem is that it started as "I know it is wrong, I can fix it myself" then grew into "Crap, this is extensive" and from there into "well, if it is all ripped out anyway, why don't we...?"
Two big issues faced us;
- First, the house is two buildings, a detached garage is separated from the house by a 4' breezeway. Not awful, but stupid we have to transit it in the rain in the winter as we are currently living above the garage.
- Second, the garage is slab-on-grade, the house is crawlspace and joists. Thus our plans to attach the two are running into many complications.
Current momentum is that in July we will hire a firm to jack up the entire garage by two feet, and will build up the block foundation and set it down. We will then remove the garage wall facing the house and attach the two buildings. The entire inside floor plan is now being finalized.
Yeah...kinda wish we had lit that wood burning fireplace insert last may...with the rust out of the back, the house would have gone in minutes...clean slate...
I hate to be the man chanting the Talking Heads song "Burning down the house," however if you talk to your local fire department, as many in small coastal towns are made up of many reserves, you could arrange to use the building for training of the fire brigade. It could be a total write off as a donation to the town for training purposes. Many times the town will pay for the full demo after the fire brigade has gone through with their training, which usually involves coordination with local police and ambulances to the closets ER. Sometimes these are golden opportunities for real training for the newer recruits that have yet to tackle a real house fire with real casualties. This kind of training is invaluable, because when the real thing happens the mind goes blank for a second at the horror but then training kicks in and people perform like champs. If they had the CPR Annie's on sight etc, it could be a great thing for the area. Then after they have removed all the rubble you would have a nice flat piece of concrete and with a significant tax write off the cost of a proper rebuild would be mitigated to a large extent.
Just a suggestion. My SIL just passed her fire department run through the county smokehouse in full gear. That's a controlled but panic inducing challenge, but it can't supplement real structures. The county attorney and a tax guy could give you an estimate on the write off amount. Just hate to see a house filled with such filth and people in hazmat gear trying to sanitize it. You will spend many years in the place and don't want to worry if you missed anything. Plus have you bored into the beams to check for dry rot or insect damage? Anyhow it's a real option. It can be cost effective. Also I've worked in full MOP gear with mask, hood, Chen suit full rubber gloves and boots. It's horrible. Running and swearing is only that much worse and decontamination with any old fecal matter present risks serious respiratory problems or the potential. I hate floods and fires. But there can be great silver linings to anything.
Time for some more champagne tomorrow along with Barolo as my FIL turned 70 today. Big family party. I'll be enjoying much. Tonight not so much. A weird day where Temps started warm and muggy but around 11pm large cold front and massive rain coming down. Temps will bottom out near the low 50s by sunrise tomorrow.
Good luck with the projects. Be safe and as always think outside the box.
< Message edited by champagneinhand -- 5/30/2015 11:01:51 PM >
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