Community Tasting Note

• Harley1199 wrote:

  October 24, 2017 - XVIII Salón de los Mejores Vinos de España -Peñín; 10/23/2017-10/24/2017 (IFEMA - Madrid): Intense rather than elegant.
  Little boring PX with primary aromas of raisins, figs or dates. Nothing sophisticated anyway.
  Evidently sweet in the mouth with a well-balanced alcohol and a not very good length. A bit ordinary at its best and obviously that isn't what you're looking for in a no-labelled VOS.
  Lowest score among its 1730 peers according with wine critics. Understood why.
  
  Intenso en lugar de elegante.
  Un PX un poco aburrido con aromas primarios de pasas, higos o dátiles. Nada sofisticado de todos modos.
  Evidentemente dulce en la boca con un alcohol bien equilibrado y una longitud no muy buena. Un poco ordinario en su mejor momento y obviamente eso no es lo que estás buscando en un VOS no etiquetado.
  La puntuación más baja entre sus pares de 1730 de acuerdo con los críticos. Entendido el porqué.

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• sweetstuff commented:

  3/15/18, 2:50 PM - The recent release that I see here makes no claim to be a VORS, but the price is higher. I wonder if labeling has changed or if this isn't the same wine you reviewed. Any ideas?

• Harley1199 commented:

  3/15/18, 3:30 PM - Hi there Sweetstuff,
  Yep, you're right. Strictu sensu this is a no-labelled VOS but a 15-20 years aged PX.
  VORS? Oh no. My entire fault indeed. Now fixed. Even in this case, as you perfectly know, Alvaro Domecq must demonstrate wine is old enough to be a VOS and Sheery Council has to approve it. Usually a complicated matter.
  So after all I think we are drinking the same wine. It didn't impress me anyway.
  Cheers!

• sweetstuff commented:

  3/16/18, 5:08 AM - I bought the 1730 in part to compare with a half-bottle of the NV Toneles Moscato of Valdespino that I picked up as one of my bucket list wines.
  
  I found, like many sherries, that it actually needs considerable time after opening to integrate, even at its superb quality level. I opened it for the chief steward on a cruise trip the last week in December, left it out on the counter since, and only now is it really singing w/ those high-toned Muscat notes.
  
  Have you similar experiences with Sherries? Of course it takes a lot more time when you follow them this way, even for a few days, and may not be practicable for someone in the business who has to evaluate a lot of wines, and is difficult to allow for in a single tasting.

• sweetstuff commented:

  3/16/18, 5:50 AM - I bought the 1730 in part to compare with a half-bottle of the NV Toneles Moscato of Valdespino that I picked up as one of my bucket list wines.
  
  I found, like many sherries, that it actually needs considerable time after opening to integrate, even at its superb quality level. I opened it for the chief steward on a cruise trip the last week in December, left it out on the counter since, and only now is it really singing w/ those high-toned Muscat notes.
  
  Have you similar experiences with Sherries? Of course it takes a lot more time when you follow them this way, even for a few days, and may not be practicable for someone in the business who has to evaluate a lot of wines, and is difficult to allow for in a single tasting.

• Harley1199 commented:

  3/17/18, 3:41 AM - Basically I agree with you, Sweetstuff. Dry sherries have an interesting evolution and integration when aerated. Also sweet PX but IMHO very often more monolithic and linear, boring even. Let me explain, when PX is good it's outstanding, when ordinary it is very very ordinary.
  In fact nowadays it is very fashionable among trendy sherry lovers to look for old sherry bottles coming from the 50's. Nothing else than acetone with sightly memories of palm dates. That's my view but of course I respect people's taste.
  Cheers!

• sweetstuff commented:

  3/17/18, 8:45 AM - 3/17/2018 3:41:00 AM - Basically I agree with you, Sweetstuff. Dry sherries have an interesting evolution and integration when aerated. Also sweet PX but IMHO very often more monolithic and linear, boring even. Let me explain, when PX is good it's outstanding, when ordinary it is very very ordinary.
  In fact nowadays it is very fashionable among trendy sherry lovers to look for old sherry bottles coming from the 50's. Nothing else than acetone with sightly memories of palm dates. That's my view but of course I respect people's taste.
  Cheers!
  
  This comment reminds me of one of those 'great bottles' of yesteryear that I've been looking for ever since, and a Sherry at that--an old-style Oloroso called, I'm sure you're familiar with it, Imperial Corregidor from Sandeman. It had been sitting the Lord knows how many years covered in layers of dust on a shelf behind the counter in a local liquor store, in the late 1980s. It was absolutely stunning, and I've never even seen a bottle, except at auction, and too expensive for me. So not all the old bottlings are over-tired, and this one in question had a good dollop of PX, I'm sure, and perhaps even Xeres PX, not Montilla.

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