2017 Taylor (Fladgate) Porto Vintage

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Community Tasting Notes (30) Avg Score: 94.6 points

  • Imported by Kobrand, NY.
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    Color: Dark ruby (as expected). Purple rim.

    Nose: Deep, dark mineral pool of smoky black raspberry and black/purple plum fruit kissed with violets and cola spices. Lovely complexity (if you pay attention). Beautiful nose.

    Palate: Full body. Lush, sweet flavors of black raspberry, bitter cherry, and cola. Excellent concentration. Slightly spiky acidity and alcohol (this will smooth-out with age). No excessively firm tannins. Not overly sweet. 20% alc. Excellent balance. Sauve. Very Taylor.

    Please serve this sublime yet powerful Vintage Porto at cellar temperature (62° max), let it come to temperature, and savor in your finest wine glass (Riedel, Zalto, Schott-Z, or Grassl).

    93-94: now. With 45 minutes of air, drinks beautifully right now (2024), although totally undeveloped.
    95+: with more age.
    Peak drinking: 2030-2047 (from a cool cellar), and beyond!

    JGH sommelier CMS-III, San Francisco, CA.

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  • Very good, but price difference between this and something like Grahams non vintage port is mind boggling. Not with the price IMO.

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  • Very flamboyant fruit, cassis, some sticky sugar and plenty of acidity in support. Very nice and very drinkable. The wood is already very well integrated. I would not hold for more than 10 years.

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  • Pnp. Almost no residuals. Rich and powerful and developed a hugely refined palate over time (drank over two days). Happy to have a handful of bottles left for years (and decades) to come.

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  • Can’t imagine how port could be better than this.

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  • Walkabout tasting, no detailed tasting notes. Taylor had a great display with plenty of explanation material and tasting opportunity. Youthful as expected, the 2016 Vintage showed lots of red fruit, spices. Good quality but the Tawny Ports were more exciting to taste today. 94-95

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  • Tasted at the winery, intense extracted red fruit and cinnamon.

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  • Very nice for being so young. The wine looks ruby colored. The legs are medium. There is light sediment in the bottle. It smells like plum, cherry, fig and alcohol/hot. It tastes like blackberry, black currant (cassis), plum and tobacco. The body is medium/full. The wine has coarse texture. The wine finishes medium. The wine has low acidity.

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  • At charity tasting…wow this 2017 and the Fonseca 2017 were suprisingly very enjoyable at this stage. Lush, together and almost hedonistic…enjoyed the pours and could have drank more, odd for young ports. This was slightly more polished and flavorful than the Fonseca but both were amazing. Loving the 2017 vintage and gonna go shopping for some more. Vs the seemingly more structured 2016s; 2017s could benefit the cellar for vintage variety and earlier openers if they continue as is.

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  • Sorry for the Swedish, this is my review from the Swedish wine forum finewines.se Suffice to say this was surprisingly good now (with a lot of air and a couple of days in the fridge after pulling the cork) with great potential to age as per my uninformed but excited guess. I loved it! So polished already and such balance.

    "Första kvällen direkt utan luftning är det litet åt det hållet som man ju misstänker när man öppnar fin vintage port alldeles för tidigt, dvs litet alkoholångor på näsan, vaniljsötma och peppriga tanniner samt kirsch och julkryddor. Men redan efter några dagar är det uppenbart vilket komplett vin detta är - så otroligt välintegrerat och sammetsmjukt samtidigt som det finns kraft, styrka, en markant men perfekt välbalanserad sötma och en liten rå edge mitt i det vinröda sammetsmjuka mörka havet som spillt sig några droppar i glaset. Både färska fikon och riktigt lyxiga russin, snarare än snustorra julfikon från förrförra året. Och med en get-blåmögel från Fromageriet var den alldeles underbar. Det är så fantastiskt drickbart redan nu. slår till med 95 pinnar. ett väldigt vinöst portvin faktiskt som i vissa stunder påminner mer om ett torrt Douro-vin eller en kalifornisk cabernet på näsan. Bra val! Kanske får bli någon flaska till till källaren känner jag..."

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  • Druckit den över drygt en månad. Upplevde den som bäst vecka 1 och 2 efter öppningen, tappade sen lite av frukten utan att kännas mognare, bara plattare. Mycket kraftig smak med blåbär, choklad och passande nog julsmaker som glöggkryddor och torkad frukt typ fikon/dadlar. Får en starkare rödvinskänsla av det än jag brukar av port. Bra syra och massiva tanniner och bra balans mot sötman. Alkoholen stack ut när det öppnades men störde inte efter det.

    Tvekar lite här mellan 93-94 eller 95 men om jag tänker tillbaka till när det var som bäst och bakar in potentialen så blir det nog 95.

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  • We agree it's far from ready, even in the 375ML format we had on Christmas. Still gave it 93-94 but it was much better the next day, gave it 95-96. Big and full, sweet port tastes, loved it. We have a couple of 750s that this convinces me not to touch for several years.

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  • It was WAAAAY too soon to try to drink this port. Will try again in 10-15 years.

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  • Decanted 48 hours. Tasted blind alongside '16 & '17 Cockburn VP, '16 & '17 Dow VP, and '16 Taylor's VP. Each one could probably be a point higher because the palate got blasted. Especially by this one.
    The 2017 Taylor's was the biggest wine of the night, the most powerful tannins and spice, the longest finish, thickest mouth-feel, but the fruit was a bit disguised and not as huge as its other components.
    At the moment not quite as tasty as the 2016 or either Dow's, but it was easy to see how this should age into greatness.

    Update: last night was day 7 in the decanter and it improved markedly. 48 hour decant was not sufficient. The wine balanced out beautifully with the fruit coming more forward and the earthiness subsiding a bit. The tannins were exquisite. Rating changed to 96 from 93.

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  • one week tasting of Taylor´s Vintage Port vertical 2016-2017-2018

    at the moment the most closed of these three

    96-97+

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  • First time ever drinking a vintage port this young. Drink over 5 days, color was purple still on day 5 (left in bottle at room temperature throughout). Nose was lovely mix of bramble and flowers as well, changed quite a bit with swirling, also got some tar. Flavors were the same, was quite tannic day 1, tannins mellowed and weren’t as noticeable day 5. Very full bodied, low acidity, with a very long finish. This was a decadent and amazing wine, wish I could live long enough to taste at its peak, lay some down for your kids/grandkids.

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  • I have been drinking this for 4 days. I have tried it with a selection of desserts, chocolates, cheeses, and various cakes, as well as alone for contemplation. To take the last at first, my conclusion is that it is a good wine, but that it is too young now, and is not yet blossoming. The potential is indisputable. Nose with deep red fruit. Light bacon, almonds, and nuts. Dark plum. Caramel and burned sugar. A bombshell on the palate. Rather tight tannins. Dark, dense, and deep fruit. Medicine cabinet, mint, and warming alcohol. I will aim to drink the next bottle on my 100th birthday.

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  • Drank over three days. With a 100 point WA score, and 97 from WS, for $79.99 at Costco, had to try it.

    First impression: Gorgeously fragrant, downright sexy! Blended red, blue, and purple berry liqueur-like perfume, along with seductive floral notes. Head-turning and knee weakening! Among the most enchanting Vintage Port perfumes I have encountered.

    Next impression: While otherwise technically excellent and true to place, the middle and bass substance cannot approach the perfume's quality level. With such vaunted scores, these elements, at this young stage in the wine's life, should present like impenetrable, granite and metallic ore mud. Case(s) in point, like most 2011 Vintage Ports upon release in 2014. Also, several wines of that hallowed vintage present as red wines that just happen to be sweet, which is not the case here. Also noteworthy: the second, and especially the third day, revealed a bite at the back.

    Any detraction? Well, what wine making technique often results in high fragrance and back-end bite? Over extraction!...which seems to be the case here.

    In several recent notes, particularly regarding so many blackberry and vanilla perfumed, but otherwise soulless and placeless 2016 Left Bank Bordeaux offerings, I have written of a pro reviewer trend to score wines based on ripeness and prettiness, hallmarks of the celebrated, or revolting, depending upon viewpoint, 'International' style. This would seem to be the case here. This aside, this drinks more like Vintage Port than most 2016 Left Bank Bordeaux drink like Left Bank wines. Thus, I prefer this massively overstated wine, compared to those.

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  • Had to try a bottle, I should wait 10 years for the next.

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  • This is an extraordinary Port. The deepest shade of purple imaginable with darkest ruby at the rim, when first opened an intense nose of crushed blackberries, blueberries, cassis and tar, on the palate a blazing wave of crushed berries- much like one often sees in a fine young vintage of Montrose, despite the intense deep fruit the tar, tannin and structure make this almost undrinkable- I do not think I have ever seen a young Port so brutal on the palate, painfully intense long finish with plums and white mineral notes almost overwhelmed by the alcohol and acid notes, I then set the half bottle in the fridge- recorked but not gassed and with about a glass already consumed, so plenty of air space, day one it barely budged, it has now been two days and at last this is approachable if still almost painfully intense, the nose is more elegant now and very primary- and still carries across the room from the glass, violets now evident as well, on the palate the sheer power of the wine is still in full evidence but the alcohol and structure are far better integrated, with all its mass it floats across the palate- almost caressing it- with a luxurious semi-sweet chocolate richness coating the primary fruit, the tannins are still evident but nicely buried, length to burn, all the great fruit intensity of a 2016 but with a structure to keep it classic and classy, this promises to be a great vintage for Taylor but one that will take a great deal of time to reach its peak, a long journey ahead- but one I will eagerly take.

    (*****), 2042++

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  • From 375. I drink young port over days and so don't usually post tasting notes beyond a score, but I have to say this is a stellar wine. The tannins are of course gripping, but powdery and refined in a way I've never seen in such a young port. Concentrated, balanced, and just the right amount of sweetness. This will age magnificently. Score now is 95+. Of the major releases from 2017, the Taylor's is second only to the '17 Niepoort.

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  • Not overly sweet. Maybe the best port I’ve ever had

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  • Infanticide but lovely seamless waves of fruit and minerally-dried fruit mocha...

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  • Can’t rate it right now. I couldn’t resist opening one bottle but this is infanticide!!! Will lock the other bottles for the next 10 years!!

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  • Tasted at the Wine & Spirits Top 100 Symposium in NYC. Another amazing 2017 Port. Raisins, chocolate, dark black and blue fruit, spices...it has it all with plenty of vibrant energy. I did take a little off for the notable alcohol on the nose and palate. Still amazing!

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  • Immensely powerful and concentrated. Such a lovely wine, with a great potential. The fruit is elegant, but very intense. Should've been drank with a steak. I see a great future for this.

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  • Side by side, Fonseca, Taylor Fladgate & Warre’s, the 2017 Taylor seemed the most balanced pertaining to sweetness levels. Deep red colour almost bluish purple on the rim. The most aromatic of the three, tons of mocha, vanilla, plums and anise exploded from the glass. Incredible richness, mid-palate and finish proved that the 2017 vintage in Portugal was in my opinion greater than 2016. As I was swirling the wine in my mouth, I wished there was a fresh slice of nut bread topped with Stilton nearby. A fantastic Port to be enjoyed now and the following 5 to 6 decades. I estimate it will be released around $155 CAD.

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  • Rich dark plum, creme de mint, cocoa aromatics that are dense. Smooth rich dense creamy with pretty red plum, white raisin, and spice cake. Very impressive and surprisingly drinkable even now. Very well integrated.

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  • Cellar Night at Binnys South Loop (Chicago, IL): I struggle to rate/rank Ports vs premium reds but this was very tasty and a great way to end the night. Slightly better than the Fonseca '16. How can you not like a well made port? It's like a great cheese or chocolate.

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