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Mosel Producer Visits-Mostly 2022 Riesling
Tasted Wednesday, September 6, 2023 - Thursday, September 7, 2023 by drwine2001 with 143 views
Flight 1 - Willi Schaefer (7 Notes)
Flight 2 - H. Thanisch (8 Notes)
2022 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Bernkastel-Kues Riesling Alte Reben
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Terrific lime fruit. Medium weight with surprisingly fine texture. Bone dry. Excellent entry level wine, very refreshing.
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2022 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Bernkasteler Graben Riesling Großes Gewächs
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Fragrant nose of crushed herbs. Medium weight but very lean and stylish due to lemony acidity and slate. Lingering, powerful finish. I was completely unaware of this wine and found it incredibly impressive.
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2022 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Riesling Estate Kabinett Feinherb
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Again a very herbal nose. Light to medium weight. Just off dry. Lemon and lime fruit with very good acidity but dilute. This showed poorly after the much higher quality GG.
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2022 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett feinherb
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Higher toned aromatics of herbs and fruit. Off dry entry with lemon and red apple. Fine acidity, excellent concentration, and a complex, mineral finish. Now this is more like it!
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2022 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Kabinett
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Lighter and more elegant than either of the 2 feinherbs, but clearly much sweeter and fruitier too, here with green apple and ripe citrus. Again, excellent acidity and a persistent finish dripping with stone. Very good.
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2021 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Bernkasteler Badstube Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Lower toned lively orange. Light to medium weight. Pure orange fruit with a higher intensity of slate and acidity. Great grip and penetration. Racy, balanced, and way too young.
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2018 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Bernkasteler Lay Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Ripe fruits and a touch of honey. Exotic, atypical melange of melon and pear. Moderately sweet, low acidity, and a real fall off in the mid-palate. Late slate gives it some structure. Good now but unlikely to improve.
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2022 Wwe. Dr. H. Thanisch (Erben-Thanisch) Berncasteler Doctor Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Complex, sophisticated nose unlike any of the other 2022s. Green and floral, it smells like something from a cooler year. Off dry. Elegant, poised, and balanced. Not quite the acidity of the 2021 that was shown, but excellent minerality. This may turn out to be one of the truly outstanding wines from this vintage. A privilege to taste this.
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Flight 3 - Zilliken (12 Notes)
2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Riesling Trocken
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Fresh lime scents. Medium weight, surprisingly substantial. All minerals and green fruit. High enamel staining acidity. Very, very good for this level.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburg Riesling Trocken
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Morefloral than the straight trocken. Clean, dry, and light. Lemon/lime fruit and a similar profile but finer. Excellent dry wine.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Großes Gewächs
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Lower, deeper register of fruit on the nose. Rounder, more glycerine feel. Outstanding concentration of bass note citrus, mostly orange. Slightly lower acidity than the 2 preceding wines, but long, persistent, and full of soil. Great material here.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Riesling Butterfly
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Light and off dry. Yellow fruit and orange followed by good acidity and excellent soil and minerality. Enjoyable now. Of course, it suffered in comparison to the profound Rausch GG served before it.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling “Diabas”
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
I had never heard of this wine which comes from a small patch of volcanic soil within the vineyard. Sure enough, very distinctive flinty aromas different from any other wine in the range. Light to medium weight. Off dry. A bit of exotic pineapple. Very good acidity and properly tart. Long, stony finish. I loved this unique wine and wish I had access to it.
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2020 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Riesling Estate
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Funky aromas with some slate but little fruit. Medium weight, slate base. Apple flavors, lower acidity and little intensity. Drinkable now.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburg Riesling Kabinett
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Spice and fruit jump out of the glass. Light but fairly rich and sweet for Kabinett. Apple jelly, not that zingy but excellent back end slate.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Ockfener Bockstein Riesling Kabinett
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Cooler, more restrained nose. You can almost smell the stone. Lighter and less sweet and rich than the Saarburger. Cherry (!!) and apple. Good acidity and even better slate to wrap things up. Excellent.
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2022 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Kabinett
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Tropical fruit mix and soil. Medium weight, rich entry of brown spice and apricot. Very good acidity but really driven by its great minerality. Incredible concentration and impact for a Kabinett. I’m sure this will be too exotic for some tastes, but I adored the combination of hedonistic fruit and real stoniness.
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2020 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Floral, fruit forward aromas. Medium weight, lovely feel. Juicy apple and stone fruit. Moderate residual sugar, excellent acidity, and drenched with soil at the end. Wonderfully elegant while providing great mouth coverage. A beauty!
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2011 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Medium yellow. Scents of pear and stone fruit. Light to medium weight, less sweet than the 2020 version. Creamy, piquant apple entry, outstanding acidity, long slatey finale. Unexpectedly impressive and at an early point of maturity. Outstanding.
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2009 Zilliken (Forstmeister Geltz) Saarburger Rausch Riesling Auslese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Greenish yellow, youthful appearance. Honeyed nose. Discrete, delicate light to medium weight. Moderate sweetness, great acidic core, and a terrific stony finish. Subtle Auslese, shockingly good in terms of my expectations of the vintage. Fantastic way to conclude this great tasting.
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Flight 4 - Falkenstein (2 Notes)
2022 Hofgut Falkenstein Krettnacher Ober Schäfershaus Riesling Spätlese Trocken #18
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Medium weight, great enveloping texture. Dry, lemony fruit, zingy acidity. Wow, the stone on the finish just doesn’t give up. Extraordinary drive and precision for the year.
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2022 Hofgut Falkenstein Niedermenniger Herrenberg Riesling Kabinett feinherb
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Not sure whether this was one of the numbered fuders. Slightly more body and off dry orange peel fruit. Less strict than the Spätlese trocken but still excellent acidity. Again, the stone dust finish coats the tongue long after it leaves the mouth. Truly excellent.
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Flight 5 - Maximin Grünhauser (10 Notes)
2022 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhauser Riesling Trocken
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Flowers and green herbs. Light, minimal sugar, sour lime, excellent acidity, and amazing stoniness. Fragrant and fine for its price (13 euros ex domain!!).
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2022 Von Schubert Grünhauser Riesling 1G
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Also quite herbal. More glycerine and texture, quite saline, excellent acidity and soil. Harmonious with a complex finish. Also quite impressive at this level.
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2022 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Bruderberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Flinty, smoky aromas. Light to medium weight, terrific acidity, saline, green apple and lime, minimal residual sugar, long vein of soil, and a rather lean, angular finish.
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2022 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Herrenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Herbal, floral aromatics. Medium body, rounder than Bruderberg. Fine earthiness throughout. Dry, seamless, and savory with apple fruit supporting the structure rather than vice versa. So refined and subtle. Outstanding potential.
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2022 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Abtsberg Riesling Großes Gewächs
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Citrus and herb. Delicate and airy, yet potent with excellent mouth feel. Bitter citrus, minimal sweetness, moderate acidity, and jagged stoniness. Already breathtakingly complex. This should also be great, but it will need a ton of time (decades?).
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2022 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Herrenberg Riesling Kabinett
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Bit of sulfur, jasmine, and apple. Light to medium body. Off dry, bright citrus, zingy acidity, and fine minerality, although only moderate intensity and length.
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2018 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Abtsberg Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Apple and peach with herb and ash in the background. Medium to light with creamy attack but drier finish. Surprisingly modest perception of sugar despite it having 65 grams. Lovely mineral finish. Very good and I preferred this to the Herrenberg. Ready in 3+ years.
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2018 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Herrenberg Riesling Spätlese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Overripe peach and pineapple. Clearly Auslese level sweetness (80 grams). Lower acidity, exotic tropical fruit basket, little minerality. Honeyed, hedonistic, ready now, but after the initial showy burst it falls off quickly and the shape just isn’t there. Much too much and not what I’m looking for.
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2019 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Abtsberg Riesling Auslese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Medium yellow. Complex aromas-high toned and perfumed with a touch of honey. Wonderful medium weight, creamy feel, and tart stone fruit with excellent salinity. This is bouncy in a way that the 2018s are not, and it hides its 100 grams of residual sugar well. Rich entry yet beautifully pulled together on the back end. Now this is more like it! Excellent potential.
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2018 Von Schubert Maximin Grünhäuser Abtsberg Riesling Beerenauslese
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/7/2023)
Dull yellow. Honey and baked peach. Rich, quite sweet (170 grams of sugar), pure Golden Delicious apple and yellow peach. Good acidity, medium length, and a smidgen of slate. Sumptuous but not a BA with long term potential.
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2011 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spätlese #5
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Full yellow. Flowers and honey. Moderately sweet. Yellow peach, moderate acidity, light soil finish. Open and really good.
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2022 Willi Schaefer Graacher Riesling Trocken
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Light yellow. Lime, herbs, and floral tones. Dry, nice feel, guava jelly, and structured more around soil than acidity.
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2022 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Kabinett #2
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Light yellow. Citric aromas. Just off dry. Light but really dances. Slatey apple jelly. Delicate, subtle, good length.
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2022 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Kabinett #3
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Light greenish yellow. You can smell the soil and herbs. Slightly more weighty than the Himmelreich Kabinett with lower pitched apple flavors. Average acidity, but a clinging soil finish and strong salinity still give it excellent structure.
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2022 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spätlese #5
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Medium yellow. Regal, earthy aromas. Medium bodied, some sweetness, average acidity, some texture. Ripe stone fruit accompanied by spice and late citrus. Excellent soil filled finish. I love it, but it just lacks the snap and tension to be truly outstanding.
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2017 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Kabinett #3
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Yellow. Slightly petrol earthy aromas. Light, dry, great acidity, classic long slate finish. Wow, a great young Kabinett and a wine that puts the lower acidity of the 2022s in perspective.
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2013 Willi Schaefer Graacher Domprobst Riesling Auslese #14
Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer
(9/6/2023)
Deeper yellow. Slightly impure, honeyed nose. Not terribly sweet. Average acidity, good texture, not much soil to be found, and a shorter finish. Not a great success.
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