2004 Bodega Numanthia Toro Numanthia
Community Tasting Note
Rezy13 wrote:
84 Points
Friday, March 28, 2014 - Bring your best you paid under $100- double blind (Norcross, GA): Opaque core with thin red rim; mint, paint thinner, tar, menthol; fat, no to low acid, red fruit, menthol, leather, older, hard as nails; this shows how blockbuster New World wines age...not well.
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Comment posted by StefanAkiko:
4/22/2014 2:33:00 PM - On what account do you call this a New World wine? It's Spanish, for crying out loud.
About ageing, this one is still a very, very young wine. VERY young.
But then, of course, personal taste differs.
Please, don't call this a New World Wine. Because it's an Old World wine with a cultural history of sorts.
Comment posted by Rezy13:
4/23/2014 11:37:00 AM - Thanks for the note, Jancis. My note is consistent and even less harsh than 'King of the Blind's note...we drank the same, poor bottle. You, as an experienced taster, cannot speak about 2004 Numanthia as a whole- only the bottle that was opened. I don't remember you being at the tasting.
Yes, Spain is Old World (thank you 1965 wine reference book) and I know the history of the region, but when Australians make the wines, they pick in early November at 40 Brix, they get enough extraction to permanently stain the glass, and the acidity is over 7 pH...I don't find that to be very Old World in style...or appealing. If you like drinking chemicals and sludge go ahead, but it's not my cup of tea. You probably know that many Spanish producers were chasing points during this time period by creating a product that is appealing to critics and meant to be consumed very early. That style has lead to very inconsistent aging to say the least.
Secondly, on your profile it says you don't care about whether a wine is traditional or modern. Why do you care if I care? Sounds hypocritical to me.
Our styles and tastes are very different. I am more objective because I am in the industry and need to be. It looks as though you are a highly creative and expressive consumer who is extremely passionate about wine. I respect that very much, but please thoughtfully consider your comments before posting.
Comment posted by StefanAkiko:
4/25/2014 12:22:00 PM - I totally misread your TN. I now see what you mean: New World wines in parallell, not that you address Spain as a New World country. My mistake. I beg your pardon.
Have not yet been to Atlanta, but your weekly tastings sure seem wonderful.
Comment posted by Rezy13:
4/28/2014 2:58:00 PM - No worries. Sorry if I was a little harsh.
Let me know if you're ever in town.
Comment posted by StefanAkiko:
4/29/2014 12:57:00 AM - No sweat, I need to learn how to read :-)