-- uncorked 30 min. before initial taste on Day 1 -- -- tasted blind alongside another 2020 Grunhaus Kabinett (Herrenberg) over 1.5 hrs. on Day 1; revisited on Days 2 and 3 (bags pulled at end of Day 2) -- -- this was in Bag #4; Herrenberg in Bag #2 -- -- AP #: … 10 21 --
NOSE: Day 1: mineral and a touch underbrushy; bit more expressive than #2. Day 2: smells a touch more sweet than #2 – cotton candy.
BODY: light, pale green-yellow color; medium bodied.
TASTE: Day 1: bit more lime than #2, and seems to be a touch more sweet, too. Day 2: medium to medium+ acidity; touch less petrol than #2; seems sweeter today than yesterday; 7.5% abv.; liked this a lot --- both wines are excellent --- will buy again. If this little mini tasting showed me anything as to the relative merits of these wines, it’s that one shouldn’t be chased to the exclusion of the other --- they’re far more similar than they are different.
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40th anniversary tasting (L'Esprit du Vin - Axelborg): My notes from this fantastic gigantic tasting are in general extremely short (because of the many wines) but with ratings. We spent a whole day tasting and tasting quality wines.
This wine: An impressive Mosel-house. I scored almost all the cuvees 90 and above and many of them in the mid-1990s. This cuvee is off dry. 92+
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At a merchant. A seriously good Kabinett. Mineralic, light on its feet, lime, grapefruit. Light sweetness, interplay with the acidity. Better thant the Weil next to it.
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Lovely nose with apple blossom, peach, petrol, honey and a mineral touch. Well judged sweetness with vibrant acidity. Lovely long finish. Drink or hold. Delicious. Served with north Indian food, worked well with the sweetness and low alcohol.
WSET notes :
Medium gold.
Pronounced on the nose with apple blossom, apple, peach, petrol, honey, lime zest, and wet stone. Developing.
Pronounced and offdry on the palate. Light body, high acidity, low alcohol, long finish.
Can drink now but has potential for aging.
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Prior bottle was one year ago and this wine continues to show impressively. Pear, melon and crunchy white peach on the nose with the peach becoming more and more distinct as the wine warms. Close to medium bodied with white apple, pear and melon upfront. Starts to add white peach and through the middle, that white peach note goes from being more acidity-driven to more open and expressive. This, combined with the roundness through the middle conveys a sense of depth which is then balanced with acidity and tart white orchard notes behind. The acidity is not as active as my prior bottle, but still a critical factor and works well with the evolving fruit. This is an expressive kabinett, with many years ahead but to my personal taste, while certainly still quite young, the interplay between the fruit and structural notes makes this wine quite exciting in its current stage.
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Tasted with several other white wines over several nights as part of a food pairing trial, with dishes including Pad Thai and Indian chicken curry (if anyone cares, Spice Tailor's fiery goan curry) with all the trimmings (i.e. raita, naan, rice, popadoms, lime pickle, mango chutney).
This wine "won" with both Thai and Indian flavours. It was tasted alongside: (1) JJ Prum's graacher himmelreich spätlese 2015; (2) Grünhauser's Abtsberg Superior 2020; (3) Brundlmayer's "Vincent" Gruner Veltliner 2014; and (4) Chidaine's Montlouis sur Loire "Clos Habert" chenin 2018.
With both dishes the general order of preference was Abtsberg Kabinett, following by either JJ Prum or the Chenin. But the Kabinett a clear winner. The JJ Prum was nice and arguably more intense, but a little too sweet with these foods and texturally quite cloying. I will report back if I drink them without food.
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Tasted as part of a blind tasting of Rieslings from around the world - and showed why Germany is the Land of Riesling, as this was one of the favorites of our group. It had a bit of a sulfide burst from protective winemaking as we poured it, but that quickly dissipated to reveal peach, yellow apple, and floral notes.
The palate was off-dry, with a definite flavor of mandarin orange. The high acidity was well balanced with the light sweetness, giving that perfect tension of a good Kabinett between residual sugar and screaming acidity. About 7.5% alcohol. I put this on my list of bottles to buy after the class.
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This was outstanding. The acidity was fierce, the fruit unctuous and focused; and the salinity so pleasing. No formal notes taken, but do not pass this wine by...
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Fruity and forward nose of peach, red apple, bright citrus, white florals, some herbal-mint with a bit of pine. The palate is really flavorful and gripping - sweet peach and apple, spice, a touch of mint, some juicy citrus - this has nice sweet ripe fruit but a ton of energy and these carry through to the middle palate and the finish - really juicy and alive and crisp. Sweet fruit and spice and pine. Much more zing than 95% of the 2020's I've had. Lovely. Nose - 5/6, Palate - 5-5.5/6, Finish - 5-5.5/6, Je ne Sais Quoi - 1.5/2 = 16.5-17.5/20.
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Melon, pear, green apple and flint. On day one, this showed its potential but was a bit out of balance due to to strong flint aromas. The wine was nonetheless great with mildly spicy Chinese food. On day two this was more balanced, showing that intense interplay between some sweetness and high acidity that I love in Riesling. Great QPR now but above all in 5+ years.
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Peach, pear, melon and flinty mineral notes on the nose. Nearly medium bodied (7.5% ABV) with white peach upfront with a lot of bright, lightly tart highlights. Gains depth through the middle along with pear, white apple and slightly more open white peach. Backside shows melon, citrus and electric acidity. The acidity serves to amplify many of the fruit notes, rather than conceal them. As other reviewers have noted, this isn't just a baby spatlese, it's different in weight, construction, profile and complexity. But it's also clearly different from kabinett wines of years past which were lighter and less complex. So far, I have to say, I'm a big fan. These wines are distinctly different from a spatlese, being their own unique thing. I'll certainly need to pick up a few more of these and pay more attention to kabinett's in general going forward.
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AP 10 21. Stunning Kabinett! I haven’t tasted something this good since some of the 2015 rieslings. Weightless, light, and a little reductive. Not overly ripe or a toned-down Spätlese. Just, just well-balanced and food friendly. I’m really happy with the direction von Schubert has taken recently. Beautiful, light wines that have somehow avoided the pradikat creep of the last two decades. Buying quite a bit more to enjoy now and in the long run.
Only one quirk—why does von Schubert use the tall flutes for their pradikat wines? I’ve had this complaint about the GG bottling for years the extra inch of height doesn’t fit in many refrigerators, at least without adjusting shelves. There’s no benefit so why change from the bottle style standardized for a century?
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Bright, floral nose, with gooseberry and grassy greenness. Nice feel in the mouth – fresh, playful. Well-balanced, perfect ripeness. Long, mealy finish. Good vintage typicity, very moreish. Really lovely
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Online Vintage Presentation: *** Note is based on 0,1l bottles filled about 1 week before the tasting by the winery *** Glass: Zalto Universal Clear, pale golden color. Clean, medium+ intense, youthful nose, ripe fruit, wonderful classic Grünhaus aromas, ripe fruit, elder, cassis. Off-dry, 7,5% abv, high acidity. Lots of ripe fruit, cassis, very salty, wonderful grip! Beautiful elegance, juiciness and tension. Long, fine, lingering finish. This is outright delicious and even though it drinks nicely now, it has a clear potential for the next two to three decades. Only Riesling can bring this lightweight elegance! 91-92+
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Online Vintage Presentation: Based on 0,1l bottles filled about 1 week before the tasting. Blue, devon slate. 50gr residual sugar, 9gr acidity Clear, pale, youthful lemon golden color. Off-dry, 7,5% abv, a bit less acidity, very ripe. Roundest wine of the three Kabinets, more yellow fruit. Juicy, wonderful balance, salty mineral core. Makes a lot of fun already. Long, juicy finish! Delicious! 90-91+
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3/26/2024 - grafstrb wrote:
-- uncorked 30 min. before initial taste on Day 1 --
-- tasted blind alongside another 2020 Grunhaus Kabinett (Herrenberg) over 1.5 hrs. on Day 1; revisited on Days 2 and 3 (bags pulled at end of Day 2) --
-- this was in Bag #4; Herrenberg in Bag #2 --
-- AP #: … 10 21 --
NOSE: Day 1: mineral and a touch underbrushy; bit more expressive than #2. Day 2: smells a touch more sweet than #2 – cotton candy.
BODY: light, pale green-yellow color; medium bodied.
TASTE: Day 1: bit more lime than #2, and seems to be a touch more sweet, too. Day 2: medium to medium+ acidity; touch less petrol than #2; seems sweeter today than yesterday; 7.5% abv.; liked this a lot --- both wines are excellent --- will buy again. If this little mini tasting showed me anything as to the relative merits of these wines, it’s that one shouldn’t be chased to the exclusion of the other --- they’re far more similar than they are different.
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10/21/2023 - Kim Gerner wrote: 92 Points
40th anniversary tasting (L'Esprit du Vin - Axelborg): My notes from this fantastic gigantic tasting are in general extremely short (because of the many wines) but with ratings. We spent a whole day tasting and tasting quality wines.
This wine: An impressive Mosel-house. I scored almost all the cuvees 90 and above and many of them in the mid-1990s. This cuvee is off dry. 92+
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8/18/2023 - Collector1855 wrote: 94 Points
At a merchant. A seriously good Kabinett. Mineralic, light on its feet, lime, grapefruit. Light sweetness, interplay with the acidity. Better thant the Weil next to it.
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6/11/2023 - Irish_Wine Likes this wine: 92 Points
Lovely nose with apple blossom, peach, petrol, honey and a mineral touch. Well judged sweetness with vibrant acidity. Lovely long finish. Drink or hold. Delicious. Served with north Indian food, worked well with the sweetness and low alcohol.
WSET notes :
Medium gold.
Pronounced on the nose with apple blossom, apple, peach, petrol, honey, lime zest, and wet stone. Developing.
Pronounced and offdry on the palate. Light body, high acidity, low alcohol, long finish.
Can drink now but has potential for aging.
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4/13/2023 - Joshvoulters Does not like this wine: 85 Points
Howard Ripley German Portfolio Tasting (11 Cavendish Square): Super ripe peach, some rubber and slate. Acid really lacking here so it feels flabby and directionless to me. Not a fan.
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4/2/2023 - diggydan wrote: 92 Points
Toothsome, fairly sweet, and vibrant young kab.
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1/7/2023 - RGCM Gananda Likes this wine: 93 Points
Prior bottle was one year ago and this wine continues to show impressively. Pear, melon and crunchy white peach on the nose with the peach becoming more and more distinct as the wine warms. Close to medium bodied with white apple, pear and melon upfront. Starts to add white peach and through the middle, that white peach note goes from being more acidity-driven to more open and expressive. This, combined with the roundness through the middle conveys a sense of depth which is then balanced with acidity and tart white orchard notes behind. The acidity is not as active as my prior bottle, but still a critical factor and works well with the evolving fruit. This is an expressive kabinett, with many years ahead but to my personal taste, while certainly still quite young, the interplay between the fruit and structural notes makes this wine quite exciting in its current stage.
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12/26/2022 - DrDave88 Likes this wine:
Nose: smoke and stone (minerality 😱), apple and yellow plum
Palate: crystalline, acidity beautifully balanced by residual sugar. Goes on and on in the mouth
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11/1/2022 - Irish_Wine wrote: 92 Points
Pale lemon colour.
Medium intensity on the nose with some reduction, white peach and pear.
Offdry on the palate with high acidity, medium body, long finish.
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9/22/2022 - FiggySmalls Does not like this wine:
on pnp: rich and ripe with lots of saline. acid is mostly apparent in lengthy grip vs throughout=quite round. low+ acid for a kabinett.
rs sticks out. has too much artificial sweetener character in how it coats the tongue and mars the finish.
my previous note indicates that significant air moderates the acid/Splenda issues. this note is for pnp at this stage
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8/25/2022 - Wine_Hoarder wrote: 92 Points
Tasted with several other white wines over several nights as part of a food pairing trial, with dishes including Pad Thai and Indian chicken curry (if anyone cares, Spice Tailor's fiery goan curry) with all the trimmings (i.e. raita, naan, rice, popadoms, lime pickle, mango chutney).
This wine "won" with both Thai and Indian flavours. It was tasted alongside: (1) JJ Prum's graacher himmelreich spätlese 2015; (2) Grünhauser's Abtsberg Superior 2020; (3) Brundlmayer's "Vincent" Gruner Veltliner 2014; and (4) Chidaine's Montlouis sur Loire "Clos Habert" chenin 2018.
With both dishes the general order of preference was Abtsberg Kabinett, following by either JJ Prum or the Chenin. But the Kabinett a clear winner. The JJ Prum was nice and arguably more intense, but a little too sweet with these foods and texturally quite cloying. I will report back if I drink them without food.
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8/13/2022 - bookert wrote: 91 Points
Open tropical nose. Semi-ripe apple and quince on the palate. Elegant but length wasn't particularly long.
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7/16/2022 - Jessie and Max Likes this wine: 92 Points
Tasted as part of a blind tasting of Rieslings from around the world - and showed why Germany is the Land of Riesling, as this was one of the favorites of our group. It had a bit of a sulfide burst from protective winemaking as we poured it, but that quickly dissipated to reveal peach, yellow apple, and floral notes.
The palate was off-dry, with a definite flavor of mandarin orange. The high acidity was well balanced with the light sweetness, giving that perfect tension of a good Kabinett between residual sugar and screaming acidity. About 7.5% alcohol. I put this on my list of bottles to buy after the class.
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4/14/2022 - chardonem wrote: 95 Points
This was outstanding. The acidity was fierce, the fruit unctuous and focused; and the salinity so pleasing. No formal notes taken, but do not pass this wine by...
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3/7/2022 - Seth Rosenberg Likes this wine: 94 Points
Fruity and forward nose of peach, red apple, bright citrus, white florals, some herbal-mint with a bit of pine. The palate is really flavorful and gripping - sweet peach and apple, spice, a touch of mint, some juicy citrus - this has nice sweet ripe fruit but a ton of energy and these carry through to the middle palate and the finish - really juicy and alive and crisp. Sweet fruit and spice and pine. Much more zing than 95% of the 2020's I've had. Lovely. Nose - 5/6, Palate - 5-5.5/6, Finish - 5-5.5/6, Je ne Sais Quoi - 1.5/2 = 16.5-17.5/20.
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2/24/2022 - FiggySmalls Likes this wine:
Full of unctuous tropical notes, light-bodied, plenty of salt. Not that crisp. Pretty closed until opened for a day or two
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2/20/2022 - Peter Spijker Likes this wine:
Melon, pear, green apple and flint. On day one, this showed its potential but was a bit out of balance due to to strong flint aromas. The wine was nonetheless great with mildly spicy Chinese food. On day two this was more balanced, showing that intense interplay between some sweetness and high acidity that I love in Riesling. Great QPR now but above all in 5+ years.
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1/4/2022 - RGCM Gananda Likes this wine: 93 Points
Peach, pear, melon and flinty mineral notes on the nose. Nearly medium bodied (7.5% ABV) with white peach upfront with a lot of bright, lightly tart highlights. Gains depth through the middle along with pear, white apple and slightly more open white peach. Backside shows melon, citrus and electric acidity. The acidity serves to amplify many of the fruit notes, rather than conceal them. As other reviewers have noted, this isn't just a baby spatlese, it's different in weight, construction, profile and complexity. But it's also clearly different from kabinett wines of years past which were lighter and less complex. So far, I have to say, I'm a big fan. These wines are distinctly different from a spatlese, being their own unique thing. I'll certainly need to pick up a few more of these and pay more attention to kabinett's in general going forward.
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12/30/2021 - Stevelayden Likes this wine: 94 Points
AP 10 21. Stunning Kabinett! I haven’t tasted something this good since some of the 2015 rieslings. Weightless, light, and a little reductive. Not overly ripe or a toned-down Spätlese. Just, just well-balanced and food friendly. I’m really happy with the direction von Schubert has taken recently. Beautiful, light wines that have somehow avoided the pradikat creep of the last two decades. Buying quite a bit more to enjoy now and in the long run.
Only one quirk—why does von Schubert use the tall flutes for their pradikat wines? I’ve had this complaint about the GG bottling for years the extra inch of height doesn’t fit in many refrigerators, at least without adjusting shelves. There’s no benefit so why change from the bottle style standardized for a century?
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6/29/2021 - NickA Likes this wine: 92 Points
2020 Kabinetts with Howard Ripley (Zoom!): Along the Ruwer. Steep SE-facing vineyard on classic blue slate. A monopole of Maximin Grunhaus. 7.5%.
Bright, floral nose, with gooseberry and grassy greenness. Nice feel in the mouth – fresh, playful. Well-balanced, perfect ripeness. Long, mealy finish. Good vintage typicity, very moreish. Really lovely
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6/2/2021 - NoTrollingerPlease Likes this wine: 92 Points
Online Vintage Presentation: *** Note is based on 0,1l bottles filled about 1 week before the tasting by the winery ***
Glass: Zalto Universal
Clear, pale golden color. Clean, medium+ intense, youthful nose, ripe fruit, wonderful classic Grünhaus aromas, ripe fruit, elder, cassis.
Off-dry, 7,5% abv, high acidity. Lots of ripe fruit, cassis, very salty, wonderful grip! Beautiful elegance, juiciness and tension. Long, fine, lingering finish. This is outright delicious and even though it drinks nicely now, it has a clear potential for the next two to three decades. Only Riesling can bring this lightweight elegance! 91-92+
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3/31/2021 - NoTrollingerPlease Likes this wine: 91 Points
Online Vintage Presentation: Based on 0,1l bottles filled about 1 week before the tasting.
Blue, devon slate. 50gr residual sugar, 9gr acidity
Clear, pale, youthful lemon golden color.
Off-dry, 7,5% abv, a bit less acidity, very ripe. Roundest wine of the three Kabinets, more yellow fruit. Juicy, wonderful balance, salty mineral core. Makes a lot of fun already. Long, juicy finish! Delicious! 90-91+
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