Bordeaux 2004 - 20 Years On - 33 Reds: All wines tasted blind, not decanted. Observations: 1) 2004 is a mediocre vintage overall, with many pleasant wines, but without the depth of better years. 2) At the top, the vintage produced some classic, old-school wines with lots of freshness and fresh fruit. 3) At the lower end, many wines lacked fruit and ripe tannins, resulting in some astringent and slightly drying wines. 4) An alarming number of Right Bank wines (5 out of 16, no Left Bank wine) were oxidized, including some heavyweights like Petrus, Evangile or Figeac. An unacceptably high proportion of faulty wines. 5) I’m not sure that the 2004 are currently in a good phase, many of my scores were lower than in previous tastings. The question is if it’s just a weaker phase or the beginning of the end. 6) At the top and the only wine >95pts was a layered Le Pin (rated 96pts), with a charming Vieux Chateau Certan, a surprising Issan and Clos l'Eglise, as well as an elegant Lafite sharing second place (all rated 94pts).
TN: Oxidized…
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Vertical wine. Guessed initially left bank and 2005 which maybe goes to show the firm vertical structure of this wine. With air you get your tell tale chocolate-notes, there is a good acuidity here, black berries and iron. Very young indeed - but great nevertheless;2004 is underestimated. Thanks, Fritz, for generously bringing this. #lunch#H&N&Co
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6 Vintages Le Pin vs Petrus vs Lafleur vs Other Pomerol: All wines tasted single blind, not decanted. Served in 6 vintage flights with a alternating 4th Pomerol added to every flight. A few observations: 1) Le Pin handily won this tasting, for me (4 out of 6 vintages at 96/97 pts) and the consensus. Made in a charming way, with loads of perfectly integrated, luxurious oak-derived notes, this wines drink well young and works very well in a larger tasting like this were you can’t follow the wines over an evening. Complex, round, intense, sexy yet elegant. 2) Lafleur came in second, despite mostly only hinting at its potential with very high complexity, it’s wonderful, typical herbal and earthy notes, all embedded in an impeccable, light structural frame. But they need time. 3) Most vintages of Petrus underperformed tonight (all below 95 pts). They would have needed more time to open up and come together. 4) 2009/10 vintages are great and unsurprisingly got the highest scores, 2008 confirmed it status as a Bdx vintage that is excellent to drink today. More information/rankings in the tasting story.
TN: I didn’t like this wine that much. On the nose and palate the wine showed not well integrated but especially with lots of oak and too much extraction. There is some substance and a good creaminess, but I can’t help but think that they tried it too hard in 2004. 88/89 pts in my book but others liked it a bit better than I do.
Decanting: Maybe a long decant would have helped here.
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Petrus vs. Le Pin vs. Lafleur 2004-2011, blind (Fribourg): Tertiary elements here as well, forest floor, a bit riper than the other wines in this flight. It felt sunnier, almost a bit artificially so, pushed for the vintage, the Trotanoy and Le Pin were more balanced.
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Pétrus vs Lafleur vs Le Pin (Fribourg): 6 vintage face-off (2006-2011) Pétrus vs Lafleur vs Le Pin vs alternating Pomerol pirate. The wines were served in vintage flights of 4 and not decanted. Main observations were: 1/ Le Pin knocked it out of the park coming in first in 4 out of 6 vintages while Pétrus came in last with not a single vintage win (Lafleur came in best in two off-vintages, 2006 and 2008), 2/ The best overall vintage was 2009 (runner-up 2010) while 2006 came in last (scoring range 85-92), 3/ best bottle was Le Pin 2009 (99), followed by Pétrus 2010 and Le Pin 2010 (98 each), 4/ best pirate was Clos L’Eglise 2009 (97). List of wines per score included in the tasting story.
Tasting note: Nice leather, smoke and foliage with a concentrated ripe fruit. This transports to the palate which was also presented itself with ripe fruit. Mouthcoating tannin left you with a sense of lacking integration and an imbalanced structure.
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2/24/2024 - Cailles wrote: flawed
Bordeaux 2004 - 20 Years On - 33 Reds: All wines tasted blind, not decanted. Observations: 1) 2004 is a mediocre vintage overall, with many pleasant wines, but without the depth of better years. 2) At the top, the vintage produced some classic, old-school wines with lots of freshness and fresh fruit. 3) At the lower end, many wines lacked fruit and ripe tannins, resulting in some astringent and slightly drying wines. 4) An alarming number of Right Bank wines (5 out of 16, no Left Bank wine) were oxidized, including some heavyweights like Petrus, Evangile or Figeac. An unacceptably high proportion of faulty wines. 5) I’m not sure that the 2004 are currently in a good phase, many of my scores were lower than in previous tastings. The question is if it’s just a weaker phase or the beginning of the end. 6) At the top and the only wine >95pts was a layered Le Pin (rated 96pts), with a charming Vieux Chateau Certan, a surprising Issan and Clos l'Eglise, as well as an elegant Lafite sharing second place (all rated 94pts).
TN: Oxidized…
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1/22/2023 - beatles wrote: 94 Points
Vertical wine. Guessed initially left bank and 2005 which maybe goes to show the firm vertical structure of this wine. With air you get your tell tale chocolate-notes, there is a good acuidity here, black berries and iron. Very young indeed - but great nevertheless;2004 is underestimated.
Thanks, Fritz, for generously bringing this.
#lunch#H&N&Co
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5/15/2022 - Cailles wrote: 89 Points
6 Vintages Le Pin vs Petrus vs Lafleur vs Other Pomerol: All wines tasted single blind, not decanted. Served in 6 vintage flights with a alternating 4th Pomerol added to every flight. A few observations: 1) Le Pin handily won this tasting, for me (4 out of 6 vintages at 96/97 pts) and the consensus. Made in a charming way, with loads of perfectly integrated, luxurious oak-derived notes, this wines drink well young and works very well in a larger tasting like this were you can’t follow the wines over an evening. Complex, round, intense, sexy yet elegant. 2) Lafleur came in second, despite mostly only hinting at its potential with very high complexity, it’s wonderful, typical herbal and earthy notes, all embedded in an impeccable, light structural frame. But they need time. 3) Most vintages of Petrus underperformed tonight (all below 95 pts). They would have needed more time to open up and come together. 4) 2009/10 vintages are great and unsurprisingly got the highest scores, 2008 confirmed it status as a Bdx vintage that is excellent to drink today. More information/rankings in the tasting story.
TN: I didn’t like this wine that much. On the nose and palate the wine showed not well integrated but especially with lots of oak and too much extraction. There is some substance and a good creaminess, but I can’t help but think that they tried it too hard in 2004. 88/89 pts in my book but others liked it a bit better than I do.
Decanting: Maybe a long decant would have helped here.
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5/11/2022 - Collector1855 wrote: 94 Points
Petrus vs. Le Pin vs. Lafleur 2004-2011, blind (Fribourg): Tertiary elements here as well, forest floor, a bit riper than the other wines in this flight. It felt sunnier, almost a bit artificially so, pushed for the vintage, the Trotanoy and Le Pin were more balanced.
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5/9/2022 - sirpat00 wrote: 90 Points
Pétrus vs Lafleur vs Le Pin (Fribourg): 6 vintage face-off (2006-2011) Pétrus vs Lafleur vs Le Pin vs alternating Pomerol pirate. The wines were served in vintage flights of 4 and not decanted. Main observations were: 1/ Le Pin knocked it out of the park coming in first in 4 out of 6 vintages while Pétrus came in last with not a single vintage win (Lafleur came in best in two off-vintages, 2006 and 2008), 2/ The best overall vintage was 2009 (runner-up 2010) while 2006 came in last (scoring range 85-92), 3/ best bottle was Le Pin 2009 (99), followed by Pétrus 2010 and Le Pin 2010 (98 each), 4/ best pirate was Clos L’Eglise 2009 (97). List of wines per score included in the tasting story.
Tasting note:
Nice leather, smoke and foliage with a concentrated ripe fruit. This transports to the palate which was also presented itself with ripe fruit. Mouthcoating tannin left you with a sense of lacking integration and an imbalanced structure.
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