Tour VDP.GROSSE LAGE 2018 Vol.2

Second day of the VDP Tour at Hamburg.

This time the VDP is introducing the three zones Franken, Rheingau and Württemberg.
As the Rheingau is very well known for its great Rieslings and some fine Spätburgunder the two other zones do not have this high international reputation.
But times are changing!

There are some recommended wines from these zones too!

Well known in Europe for its specal fine grape the Silvaner a grape varietal originally from Austria.
But as well there are some fine Rieslings and high class Spätburgunders.

• 2016 Rudolf Fürst Centgrafenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  One of the most convincing Riesling from the Franken zone, showing all you want from a Riesling GG, Stony minerality, nearly flintstone hints, light to midbodied and really refreshing, recommended, just tasty now but will improve by further cellaring, **(*- +?), 90+ potential

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• 2015 Rudolf Fürst Centgrafenberg Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  Nearly half a year after my first try this bottle from the best known Fürst vinyard is putting a bench mark for the rest of the shown Spätburgunder, nowadays the "entry level" GG but really convincing, very tight still, deep, complex showing of chalky mineralic and delicious dark fruit, midbodied and even this young beginning to get balanced, long fresh aftertaste, **(**-?), 92+ potential

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• 2015 Rudolf Fürst Schlossberg Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  For me the more Bourgogne like Spätburgunder, silky black fruit, decent spicyness, more finesse than pure power, very young appearance though, a german Chambolle, ending with an outstanding aftertaste and demanding fresh acid, really delicious now but give this one at least 5+ years in your cellar, **(**+ -?), 94+ potential

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• 2015 Horst Sauer Escherndorf Am Lumpen 1655 Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  very deep, tasty stonefruit, getting balanced, long harmonic finish, one of the best from Franken, **(*+- ?), 90+ potential

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• 2016 Horst Sauer Escherndorf Am Lumpen 1655 Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  generous yellow fruit, very good tension, vibrant long finish with a demanding acidity, give this one at least 3- 5+ years, has beautifully improved since last September, *(**+ -?), 90+ potential

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• 2015 Horst Sauer Escherndorf Am Lumpen 1655 Silvaner Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  This sample has a very strong herbal touch, midbodied and balanced, will be very good with food, long, **(*- ?), 89+ potential

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• 2016 Horst Sauer Escherndorf Am Lumpen 1655 Silvaner Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  Much younger appearance than the 2015 sample, spicy with a lot of time demanding tension, again this is more herbal than fruit foreward, but impressive long with a good supporting acidity, *(**+ - ?), 90+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut am Stein Stettener Stein Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  Enormously citrus driven, very young appearance, some spicy aromas, stonefruit on the midpalate, long and vibrant finish, *(**+ -?), 90+ potential

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• 2014 Weingut am Stein Stettener Stein Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  This sample is lacking the Riesling tension today, therefore a little disappointing, *(*- ***?), 87+ potential

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• 2016 Störrlein Randersackerer Sonnenstuhl Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  One of the estates I did not taste before, so have a try with its Riesling, good weight and Riesling tension, the fruit more on the white fruit side, pears and some apples, midbodied with a long mineralic saline aftertaste, very good, *(**- ?), 89+ potential

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• 2016 Johann Ruck Iphöfer Julius-Echter-Berg Silvaner Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  Very creamy on the midpalate, quiet dense and spicy, way too young, subdued acid, long+ aftertaste with a then demanding acidity, *(**- +?), 88+ potential

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• 2012 Störrlein & Krenig Randersackerer Sonnenstuhl Silvaner Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  Some of the members of the VDP are showing some older bottlings, this very fruit foreward, call it voluptous, but on the other hand therefore lacking some complexity, **- ***, around 86

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• 2012 Juliusspital Würzburger Stein Silvaner Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Franken

  This one is a good mature sample, enormous supporting acid paired with energetic stonefruit, deep and elegant, tropical yellow fruit as well as some red apples, ending harmonic and long vibrant, **(*+ -****), 91+ potential

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• 2012 Rainer Sauer Escherndorf Am Lumpen 1655 Silvaner Grosse LAge

  Germany, Franken

  Last of the shown mature Silvaner, quiet harmonic, some elegance and fruit finesse, tropical fruits though, long aftertaste, **- ***(+ -?), 89+ potential

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The Rheingau is like the Mosel one of the most clasic wine zones of Germany.
A high reputation for Riesling from famous vineyards since the middle ages!

• 2016 Joachim Flick Hochheimer Hölle Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  This one is labelled as Hölle "Kantelborn", a part of the quiet big vineyard Hölle (about 36 hectares), very spicy, a real cool climate Riesling, on the midpalate great freshness , ending demanding saline long, **(*+ -?), 91+ potential

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• 2016 Joachim Flick Hochheimer Königin Victoriaberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  This one is more on the fruity side of Riesling, a basket full of rich balanced tropical fruit, ending tasty long, not really my style but a very good GG, **(*- ?), 89+ potential

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• 2016 Joachim Flick Wickerer Nonnberg Riesling "Vier Morgen" Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  Really young and subdued showing, chalky mineralic, light to midbodied, ending very saline and promising, *(***), 92+ potential

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• 2015 Joachim Flick Hochheimer Königin Victoriaberg Riesling Spätlese

  Germany, Rheingau

  This Weingut is showing some classic style Rieslings as well, this Spätlese is more like a light Auslese, a very sumptuous bottle, rich in tropical fruit, the sweetness now still in the foreground, has to improve by cellaring, give this one a decade+, *(** -?), 88+ potential

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• 2015 Joachim Flick Wickerer Nonnberg Riesling Beerenauslese

  Germany, Rheingau

  A great potential dessert Riesling, all dominated by the rich concentrated sweetness of the fruit, but there are hints of mineralic salinity, superb density, ending very long and fresh, give this one up to two decades! *(*** -?), 93+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Johannisberger Hölle Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  This is all about Riesling tension, light to midbodied, fine elegance, long finish with an energetic acidity, way too young, *(**-****), 91+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  Very fine and with a deep stonefruit, quiet fullbodied, ending vibrant long+ and with a long future ahead, *(**-****), 91+ potential

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• 2012 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  The owner of this famous Rheingau estate showed as well some mature samples of his Berg Rottland, he explained that this south slop vineyard has extreme differences in the ABV grading due to the specific year, this one is all about finesse, a 12% ABV elegant sample with enormous acidic tension, showing delicious ripe stonefruit, some tropical fruit hints, still with a lot of potential to mature well, **(**), 91- 92+ potential

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• 2009 Weingut Johannishof (H.H. Eser) Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  And now this bottle from a very warm vintage, the first difference, 13,5% ABV, voluptuos tropical fruit, still tight, all components nearly balanced, harmonic with still some supporting acidity, a bottle to enjoy on its own, would prefer the leaner style to pair some food, ***(+), around 89- 90

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• 2015 Peter Jakob Kühn Oestricher Doosberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  Way too young, but indicating all you want from a great Riesling dry, full of energy, only light to midbodied, stonelicking rules, long+ aftertaste with long life ahead, *(***-?), 92- 93+ potential

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• 2015 Peter Jakob Kühn Mittelheimer St. Nikolaus Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  Wild, wild, wild, making speechless, one of the best Riesling GG from the 2015 vintage, enormous lenght and still way too young, give this one up to a decade+, **(***), 93- 95+ potential

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• 2016 Künstler Kostheimer Weiß Erd Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  an open easy drinking GG, hmmm, not showing much of a great Riesling, a little indefinite, *(*-?), 85+?

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• 2016 Künstler Hochheimer Hölle Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  The next not convincing sample, very young appearance, but where is the often shown generous fruit of this vineyard, o.K., this is not 2015 but this sample today nearly hides all, as I do always like the Hölle from Künstler I will not rate this one today........

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• 2015 Künstler Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  More open and with a quiet rich fruit, but again for me today not convincing, maybe its my fault, I do not know, maybe this estates quality is getting worse?
  We will see in the future!

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• 2016 Weingut Spreitzer Hattenheimer Wisselbrunnen Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  A fine GG: fresh, tight, creamy stonefruit midpalate, ending vibrant long, *(**- +?), 90+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Spreitzer Oestricher Lenchen Rosengarten Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  More concentrated than the wisselbrunnen, creamy peach and apricot, a fullbodied rich GG, long ending, more open than the Wisselbrunnen, **(*-?), 89+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Spreitzer Mittelheimer St. Nikolaus Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  This eatate is showing a 2015 sample as well, enormous density, deep, essence of rich yellow fruit, creamy silky limy on the midpalate, very long and still demanding, a knockout GG!, **(**-*****), 93+ potential

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• 2015 Hessische Staatsweingüter Kloster Eberbach Riesling Baikenkopf Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  It is a shame: one of the big old Riesling players from Germany, but, only an o.k. appearance, far away from representing a GG! Fresh, some stonefruit, lacking tension, concentration and lenght, *(*-?), 83- 84+?

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• 2016 Hessische Staatsweingüter Kloster Eberbach Erbacher Marcobrunn Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  The next disappoitment! How is this possible, a GG from 2016, lightbodied, mild, a softy, lacking all of 2016, no tension, to big to fail?
  This is only a misunderstanding, WORST sample of today!

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• 2016 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  One of the relieable ones, on the palate an exemplary endurance, lemon zest, power, demanding long+, for the next decade+, *(***-*****), 94+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  A wine with on the palate superior lenght, passion fruit, limestone, rich, deep and creamy, getting balanced in the next few years, long+ and refreshing, **(**-*****), 93+ potential

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• 2014 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  A very interesting comparison with other vintages from Weil, this one is more on the lean side today, A lot of lemon juice, light to midbodied, elegant, ending vibrant mineralic saline, *(***-?), 92+ potential

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• 2013 Weingut Robert Weil Kiedricher Gräfenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Rheingau

  This one is very tasty now, lemon, stonefruit like peach, all components quiet balanced, midbodied and deep, long+, **(**-?), 92+ potential

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For me one of the most improving wine zones of Germany.

• 2016 Weingut Aldinger Fellbacher Lämmler Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Wow, if you like this Riesling style, dense, creamy, opulent richness of stonefruit, ending long+, **(*+ -?), 91+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Aldinger Untertürkheimer Gips Marienglas Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  A Riesling made for me, animating, mineralic, dancing on the palate, a vibrant limy midpalate, ending refreshing lingering, *(***), 92+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Aldinger Untertürkheimer Gips Spätburgunder Marienglas Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  A really demanding appearance, cherry all the way, mineralic vibrant on the midpalate, deep rich fruit, very too young, superb aftertaste, *(**-****), 91+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Aldinger Fellbacher Lämmler Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  This one today is very drying on the palate, rich cherry fruit, long+, needs time to balance, *(**+-****-?), 90+ potential

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• 2016 Jürgen Ellwanger Schnaiter Altenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  My first tasting of this GG, very spicy and froral herbal, not really my style, *(*- ***?), 87+ potential

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• 2016 Karl Haidle Stettener Pulvermächer Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Fresh, some lemon zesz, more yellow fruit, midbodied, ending long with vibrating acidity, *(**-?), 89+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Heid Stettener Pulvermächer Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  A like this sample a little better as the Haidle, very tight, crispy, chalky, good+ endurance, *(**- +?), 90+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Dautel Bönnigheimer Steingrüben Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Very refreshing, this is all about finesse, elegant long on the midpalate, ending demanding saline long+, *(***-?), 91- 92+ potential

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• 2014 Weingut Dautel Oberstenfelder Forstberg Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Way too young but showing great tension, red and black fruit, some slightly roasty hints, deep and dense, for the next decade+ (****+-?), 92+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Dautel Oberstenfelder Forstberg Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Now this vineyard is showing its potential, the 2015 vintage, warm but fresh red cherry, bonedry on the midpalate, some funky mineralic hints like graphite, way too young but impressive tasty now, *(***-*****), 93- 94+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Dautel Bönnigheimer Schupen Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Next Spätburgunder GG from 2015, some slightly roasty hints, vanilla, really subdued today, only indicating what we will get in some years, fresh cherry tones, deep and very long+, demanding and promising! great! (****-*****), 94+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Dautel Cleebronner Michaelsberg Lemberger Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  This Lemberger (Blaufränkisch) is showing its potential now, fine swallowing, spicy and with a strong herbal touch, dense black fruit, cassis, plums, long+ aftertaste, for the next decade+, *(***- +?), 92+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Schnaitmann Schnaiter Altenberg Riesling

  Germany, Württemberg

  This estate is showing a VDP. Erste Lage. too, spicy, young zesty, lightbodied refreshing, some red cassis, long, good, *(*-***), 88+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Grauer Burgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Still very too young, tannin, strong barrel influence, very tight woven, dense, ending very long, wait for at least 3- 5 years, (***-****), 91+ potential

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• 2016 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Weissburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Rich in white fruit, showing some pears, floral, creamy from the barrels, fullbodied and tight, ending long+, wait for some5 years to open a bottle of this one, *(**-****), 91+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Spätburgunder Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Packed with tasty red and black fruit, concentrated and deep on the midpalate, ending long+, give this one at least 5+ years in your cellar, (***-****-?), 91- 92+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Schnaitmann Fellbacher Lämmler Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Very creamy stonefruit showing, some peaches and tropical fruit, more harmonic than the Götzenberg now, somehow indicating the coming silkyness, very grapey, long+ aftertaste, *(***), 91- 92+ potential

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• 2015 Weingut Schnaitmann Uhlbacher Götzenberg Riesling Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  this again is Württemberg, not the Nahe, same mineralic driven style like the best from there, chalky stone licking, midbodied, ending with crystalline precision, one for me!*(***-*****), 93+ potential

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• 2012 Weingut Aldinger Fellbacher Lämmler Lemberger Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  The VDP is showing some mature Lemberger (Blaufränkisch) as well, thi one is all about its basket full of herbs, mowed hay, lavender, a little meaty though, deep with a very long aftertaste, objectively very good, but not for me, ***(+ -*), around 90- 91

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• 2012 Grafen Neipperg Neipperger Schlossberg Lemberger Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Not as rich, tight and deep as the Lämmler, much more elegant, but lacking lenght also, **(*-?), around 87- 88

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• 2012 Wachtstetter Pfaffenhofener Glaukós Lemberger Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  Still very roasty, meaty though, drying tannin, puh...., again not for me, wondering if this one is getting harmonic in some time? *(*- ?), 86- ?

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• 2008 Grafen Neipperg Schwaigerner Ruthe Lemberger Großes Gewächs

  Germany, Württemberg

  The oldest sample from the Lemberger varietal, puh....., exhausting again, somehow lifeless showing, this is overall not convincing, *-**, 85-?

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