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Vintus Trip preceeded by 2 days in Paris

Tasted April 14, 2023 - April 20, 2023 by nzinkgraf with 176 views

Flight 1 - 2 days in Paris w/ JB, JP and CD (7 notes)

Rosé - Sparkling
N.V. Emmanuel Brochet Champagne Rosé de Saignée France, Champagne
@ Caves Legrand in Paris w/ JB.
2018 Base, w/ a little natty/volatile spark. 100% Pinot Meunier, as it opens a little licorice aroma, wild and refreshing drink. Red apple crunch, soft and frothy texture. Excellent start to a wild evening
White
2016 Domaine Bernard-Bonin Meursault Les Tillets France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault
w/ JB @ Le Mermoz in Paris (~250Euro) - a precise and focused style of Meursault. Cream soda aroma and a bit of fresh hazelnut. Excellent, and really needed all of the time that we gave it. Last drop was starting to lean into some lime nuance. To search out, JP says PP has a couple…
Red
2019 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph
w/ JB @ Le Mermoz in Paris (120Euro)
This is what I was going to go for, but also what the Somm recommended, so that’s that.
WOW, very Kalamata olive, with a toasty meat driven edge. A little citronella note behind that and Red Raspberry fruit starts to come more to the front with more time in the glass and the decanter.

There’s discussion of Ammanit de Cesar Mushrooms which JB said Alain Ducasse called the King of Mushrooms. Time to search these out….
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Red
2020 Jean Foillard Fleurie France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Fleurie
@ Septime
White
2020 Domaine du Facteur Vouvray Le Facteur Su'L'Vélo France, Loire Valley, Touraine, Vouvray
@ La Buvette
White - Sparkling
2018 Domaine Brand et Fils Le Bidule France, Alsace
@ Cave a Vins Michel
Tough to tell if we ever ended up at Candalaria (52 Rue de Saintonge; don't think so)

Flight 2 - Champagne Arrival / Hotel Jeanson and Rotisserie Henri IV (4 notes)

White - Sparkling
N.V. Henri Goutorbe Champagne Cuvée Prestige France, Champagne
@ Hotel Jeanson before dinner

w/ Nicole Goutorbe. Mostly Pinot noir from and Ay and Averney. She bought Hotel Castel Jeanson in 1999. Her daughter is part of Egrot et Filles.

Bruised apple aromas. A dark, marmite-y aspect to the nose.
White - Sparkling
N.V. Bollinger Champagne Special Cuvée Brut France, Champagne
@ Hotel Jeanson before dinner

brighter and more mineral after the Goutorbe. Not as dark and marmite. Wow, there is a lightly barrel aged element to this palate. As a red apple aspect to the palate.
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White - Sparkling
2015 Ayala Champagne Blanc de Blancs France, Champagne
@ Rôtisserie Henri IV

very mineral, most of the dinner
Red
2013 Bollinger Rouge La Côte aux Enfants France, Champagne, Coteaux Champenois
@ Rôtisserie Henri IV

12% ABV from Mag - Red Cherry, rather structured out the gate. This out of mag is an extreme baby. Red cherry popsicle aromas. Medium minus tannin. With time open in the glass. Aka one hour. The mineral note starts to pop substantially.

Flight 3 - Bollinger - in the cellar, a trade lunch, and a bike ride to Côtes aux Enfants (7 notes)

Founded in 1829
79ha = 50% of what they need
85% Grand Cru and 1er Cru
60% Pinot Noir, 25% Chardonnay, 15% Pinot Meunier
All cuvées have a minimum of 60% Pinot Noir
Reserve wines are held in stainless steel and Magnums
4000 barrels in the cellar, plus they have their own cooperage
Appellation requires 15m min aging for NV and 24m for vintage.
36m @ Bollinger for NV
84m for Grande Annee(s)
Lily Bollinger was a widow, no children, so it passed along and 3 nephews and their families run Bollinger today.

Standing in Clos St Jacques right next to the winery. There are only 15 Clos in Champagne and 3 of them are at Bollinger (Clos St Jacques, Clos Chauters[sp?], and a third?)

Clos St Jacques is ungrafted, they mix mulch & manure to cover the vines. There are some crowded plantings and some plantings in rows.

Clos St Jacques and Clos Chauters(sp) = <1ha and are Vielles Vignes Francaise
3000btls in a large vintage. 100btls go to USA

HEV Certified in 2012
Moving towards Organic Certification. 25% already certified.
Renovations of the old Chai, plus a new hotel and hospitality venue starting to happen to be in place for 200th anniversary in 2029.

Only use the ‘Cuvee’ juice at Bollinger.
La Taille and La Rombeche (1st and 2nd press juice) goes to the distiller
2050L of Cuvee juice per(…?)

They get used barrels from Chanson in Burgundy and they have to be at least 5yrs old. No new barrels here. The cooper will replace staves and such.
Only PN and Chard from 1er Cru and GC sites go into barrel.
Pinot Meunier doesn’t go into barrel as it matures to quickly. And the PM only goes into the Special Cuvee and Rose NV.
Barrels will be used for 20-25 yrs, larger barrels might get used up to 80-100yrs
Each year 10% of the barrels (400) are repaired. 1-2hrs to change a stave.
They’ll use trees from their own forest if possible, otherwise from Forest Montagne de Reims.
36m of air drying for wood.
There are only 10 coopers in Champagne, and they are the only with their own. Krug, no?
No glue, no silicone used, just a water & flour paste to seal.
Sulfur cubes to sanitize the barrels.
Chestnut branch hoops to transport/roll, plus the insects attack this part first, as it’s softer wood.
vintage.

Cote aux Enfants - 4ha and it’s their best PN. Was 50 growers, but Jacques Bollinger bought all parcels over time and now it’s a monopole
-Still PN from Cote aux Enfants goes into La Grande Annee Rose

‘Couillage’ - to top up

In the cellar
6km of cellar, 850.000 Mags of reserve wine.
Oldest part of the cellar from 1829-1907. Newest 1907-1920, with bricks & concrete to reinforce.
Reserve wines in Mag age for 7-15yrs.
Special Cuvee is 15% Reserves from Mag, 40% Reserve from stainless, plus 45% base
Stainless reserves are at max 5yrs old, Reserves in Mags 9yes old on average.
Reserve mags have 1Kilo of pressure to suppress oxidation and that represents 1/4 of the pris de mousse. They will filter the reserve wines when blending to remove sediment.
It takes 10 gents, 6wks to open and filter 80.000 mags for a batch of Special Cuvee.
Mags to sell to market are at higher pressure than 750s, 10bars for mags.
Special Cuvee is then aged y see crown cap.

150.000 btls on the riddling racks. Place on racks 15 days before starting. 1/4 turns and 1/8 turns
10 riddlers in Champagne, and 3 of those are at Bollinger.
In the winter the sediment is sticky, in the summer it’s lively. By hand riddling, the status of the yeast is recognized.
50.000btls turned per day per man. 32-35 total turns/btl and a min of 6wks on the racks.
Then placed sur pointe and the necks are frozen.

A 2010 cellar renovation found btls dating back to 1830
UK is the top export market for Bollinger as it was the Wine of the King for 5 generations. Stopped under Elizabeth, hoping for Charles to get back in the groove with it.
UK then France/Australia/USA.

It's noted that one vintage of Dom Perignon is 3x the entire production of Bollinger.
Bollinger (5M btls) is 1.5% of the total production in the region (326M total in Champagne)

Rosé - Sparkling
N.V. Bollinger Champagne Brut Rosé France, Champagne
50% base vintage plus 30% Reserve Mags, 20%reserves in stainless. 5-6% still red (rose d’assemblage)
Rose had the image of being serve in brothels (Maisons Close?) in Paris, so Lily never made rose.
In 2009 under Jerome Phillipe, Bollinger released their first Rose.
Bollinger 06 Rose was the first vintage Rose released. ‘Aromas not to be recognized as rose, And shows in the style of Special Cuvee.’
Most rose d’assemblage are 15-20% still red, but they want the color of wilted rose. ‘Special Cuvee with a little tannin/bitterness.'

-a slight rose-y aroma, with light strawberry nuance and sweetly pollenesque.

If you’re a stingy, in French, they’d say you have Sea Urchins in your pocket.

Competitive set:
Billecart Rose - FL allocates out to On Prem 1cs at a time
Laurent Perrier Rose - noted as a nightclub focus.
White - Sparkling
2014 Bollinger Champagne La Grande Année France, Champagne
White cream, bitter pear, acacia and lilac. 98AG. 60% PN and 40% Chardonnay. 2013 and 2014 were both cold summers, giving salinity with freshness. It's noted that 2014 is similar to 2008. Going back to this at the end of lunch, this really turns into a fresh whipped cream vector.
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Rosé - Sparkling
2014 Bollinger Champagne La Grande Année Rosé France, Champagne
w/ 5% Cote aux Enfants still PN.
A very elegant rose, drinking more like a blanc than a rose here. 1926-2924 Jacques Bollinger purchased parcels from all other growers in Cote aux Enfants. S/SW/SE facing.
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White - Sparkling
2008 Bollinger Champagne R.D. Extra Brut France, Champagne
All R.D. are Grande Annee with an extra 5yrs. This is 70% PN and 30% Chardonnay. Excellent pairing with 25m Gruyère selected by Bernard Antony. Crystalline lemon candy aromas, apricot and coconut all come out when paired with the Gruyère. In hindsight this was the best pairing of the trip. Coconut kept coming to the front of this pairing, very unexpectedly. Pale lemon color next to the 2002 Grande Annee.
With the dessert course of a pear tartlet, almond cream, pears and chalk flavors emerge. Excellently mirrored pairing, full of layers. Wildly wonderful set of wines.
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White - Sparkling
2002 Bollinger Champagne La Grande Année France, Champagne
61% Pinot Noir, 39% Chardonnay, 'similar vintage to the 2014'
Earth and saline, lots of graham to the nose. Also some coconut cream pie note that emerges (like the 2008 RD), although here it doesn't seem to be directly related to the pairing with the 25m Gruyere. Pale gold color. Roasted almond and tarragon.
As this opens up, starts to show some aldehyde, savory and aromas of the sea.
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White - Sparkling
N.V. Bollinger Champagne Special Cuvée Brut France, Champagne
@ lunch we finished up with a glass of Special Cuvee, overshadowed by all that came before it, but there's some thing about drinking SC in FR for sure, as it seemed head n shoulders above my experiences with it in the states. Maybe just that much fresher and closer to the source, but a full and pear/mineral exuberance that can't be denied.
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Red
2014 Bollinger Rouge La Côte aux Enfants France, Champagne, Coteaux Champenois
bike tour with Suzanne and we stopped right in from of Côte aux Enfants.

more open than the 2013 out of May the night before, has a similar wild black cherry aroma.

Flight 4 - Ayala w/ Laurence Alamanos - Export Manager (5 notes)

Founded in 1860 by Eduard Ayala
Always a lower dosage @ Ayala
In 1865 Ayala launched in the UK, producing 1M btls when the whole region did 13M
@ the time there was:
300g/l - Russian-style
150g/l - French-style
50g/l - British-style
22g/l - Ayala
In 2023 Ayala is still 1M btls in a region of 326Mbtls
Part of the UMC in 1884, as one of 24 members
Eduard died in 1901
Ayala and Collet were destroyed in the peasant revolt associated with the 1911 disaster ours harvest. Many houses bought grapes from outside the region but not Ayala, so a pity their estate was destroyed. Rebuilt in 1914. Ayala was sold in 1934 to Rene Chayoux. Champagne appellation established in 1936. Rene sells eventually to JM Ducellier, and then sold again to Bollinger in 2005.

1.Low Dosage
2.High % of Chard
3.Stainless Steel

2km of cellars here @ Ayala (48km total in Ay, 6km is Bollinger)
They are now certified organic and the wines will be labeled as such in 2yrs.
12ppl on the production team, and 12ppl on admin team.
The previous blend was 45% Chardonnay, now 55%. Was 30% Reserve wines not 43%. Was 7g/l, now 6g/l

White - Sparkling
N.V. Ayala Champagne Brut Majeur France, Champagne
This is 2019 base, always reserve from the previous three vintages.
Very mineral h2o aromas. VERY fresh, such a complimentary style to Bollinger
White - Sparkling
N.V. Ayala Champagne Brut Nature France, Champagne
Lays into the mineral even more so. Deeper with baby powder accent. Extremely clean. Mr. Clean / Mrs Clean. Same blend, same disgorgement, same time on lees as Brut Majeur, only the dosage is different, which is ZERO g/l here. They could be Brut Zero, but they choose Brut Nature (0-3g/l). 5yrs ago there were 10 Crus in here, now there are 70 crus in the blend.
Rosé - Sparkling
N.V. Ayala Champagne Brut Rosé Majeur France, Champagne
24 crus going into here.
50% Chardonnay / 40% Pinot Noir (5% GC Äy still PN) / 10% Pinot Meunier / 6g/l
Again, extremely clean. A very mineral and sophisticated rose.
White - Sparkling
2016 Ayala Champagne Blanc de Blancs France, Champagne
The aromas are of INTENSE minerality. Like sneezing while drinking mineral h2o. A bit more of a fresh butter note than the previous wines. All Cotes de Blanc - Cuis, Cremat, Oger...
6yrs on lees, 5g/l. 'Fresh butter, fresh almond'. Overall more dynamic and a character driven wine. Light floral notes and modestly potpourri.
Rosé - Sparkling
2014 Ayala Champagne Rosé № 14 France, Champagne
70Chardonnay, 30PN from 5 Grand Crus @ 5.2g/l
Again a more character driven style. More depth, still elegant, yeah, but a light strawberry pie note. I might just be dreaming that part up, as I feel that this would still be tough to pin as a rose blind (definitely not to it's detriment).

Flight 5 - Lunch in Beaune @ Caveau des Arches and then tasting and dinner @ Domaine Chanson (17 notes)

W/ Vincent Avenel

Aloxe ——> Santenay
43ha of Estate Vineyard, contribute to 25% of their supply.
1 Grand Cru and that’s Corton-Vergennes
In the Cotes Chalonnaise, they just purchased a Mercurey/Rully Estate of 50ha, that brings them to 93ha total…Chateau d’Etroit??

- it’s noted that Henriot (Bouchard/Fevre/Henriot) was sold in Sept 2022.
Oldest Family Winery in Burgundy was Bonneau de Martray (10/11 generations), but that sold to the Waltons in 2020.

-70s/80s/90s - ‘margins for Negociants in Bordeaux, shifted to the Houses. That is now happening in Burgundy too.’

The Bastion was built as fortress in the 15th Century, with 7 meter thick walls and a constant temp of 12-14C. The height was doubled in 182

…an aside…walking through Beaune (pop. 25.000) with Anthony, we ran into Patrick Leflaive (Anthony knows him from his time at Wildman) and JP and CD got kisses on the cheek…

Back to Chanson. Originally founded as Maison Verry in 1750, then 2 generations later the Mdm married Mnsr Chanson, they changed the name and in 1999 was purchased by Bollinger. 2nd oldest producer in Burgundy (oldest is Maison Champy going back to 1720).

2/3PN & 1/3 Chard between 50 wines (used to be 100). No more Beaujolais. Beaune and Chalonnaise now all Estate.

4ha Beaune Clos de Feves, a monopole since 1969. Bressandes is just up slope - 25% new oak, with some stem inclusion.
Before 2020 they did 100%WC, but they don’t want their wines to take 20 years to come around. Stems are the last thing to ripen…

Faiveley Clos de l’Ecu is another Monopole site in Beaune. Bouchard L’Enfant Jesus aussi?

They’ve also got 1ha of Chard in L’Ecu (not the Clos).

It’s noted that bud break in 2020 was normal, but 2022 and 2021 were 1-2 weeks earlier.
2020 is a vintage of high ripeness, concentration and tannin.
2021 a more delicate, ethereal, elegant vintage

They’re in their third year of Organic Conversion, with 2024 to be their first harvest certified Organic.

For yields 35hl/ha is their target for reds, 40hl/ha for whites. 45/50 is the legal limit. It’s noted that 2021 was on average 15hl/ha for them.

All Diam cork since 2012, confident in no instances of Prem-Ox either.

White
2020 Rotem & Mounir Saouma Côtes du Rhône Villages Inopia Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône Villages
@ Caveau des Arches in Beaune for lunch
-Marsanne, Roussanne, Clairette, 18m in 500l and cement egg.
Toned down clove to the nose.
Pear and melon aroma melange, sweet fruit component, and not the frosty/ice burn side that some Rhône Blanc can show. Really nice.

They buy extra lees in burg when he buys wines there. 9L of lees per barrel, it’s re-absorbed into the wines so that there is only 3L left at bottling.

He lived in a Monastery in Lebanon, came to Burgundy to learn how to make wine, got married and here we are.

Still some flintiness to the palate, clove, sweet brown pungent spice, but still more suave and sweet fruited palate than disrupted by the speed bump of spice.

Excellent with pain, morel et Vin Jaune app and its butterscotch and vermouth-iness.
White
2020 Rotem & Mounir Saouma Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc Magis France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
@ Caveau des Arches in Beaune for lunch
More up front and sharper clove expressed. Composed of all the authorized white varieties, but mostly Grenache Blanc. 24m in 500L.

This gets a little bit into the ice burn-iness on the palate, and not as soft as the Inopia Blanc…
With more time in glass…really needs an hour and half to open up. Sheds the frostiness, and opens to more peach fruitiness. 15% ABV.
Red
2020 Rotem & Mounir Saouma Châteauneuf-du-Pape Omnia France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
@ Caveau des Arches for lunch
A red berried Cinsault-y aroma. Super suave. Light chewy tannin on the palate. Mostly Grenache and sounds like 12 of the 13 varietals in here. From 9 parcels across 5 villages. Whole bunch cold masceration. 24m on lees in 500L & foudre.
Red
2017 Jacques-Frédéric Mugnier Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Clos de la Maréchale France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru
@ Caveau des Arches in Beaune for lunch
A monopole that used to be leased to Domaine Faiveley.
It’s noted that the water table in Beaune is high, so cellars are rare in Cotes de Beaune. Not the case in NSG. So in Beaune, before AC, it was too warm for cellars…

Has a distinct but soft stem note. Medium/- tannin and needs lots of time. Orange rind underbelly, but a darker red (non-cherry) element. And with more time in glass, really softens up into some sweet cinnamon.

Via Wayne from FL - @ Domaine Faiveley, Francois’s old school winemaking was that the wines had to ‘taste bad, to taste good.’ Maybe a reference to the browning (Ox) of the white wines in the cellar to give them more legs once in bottle? Francois’ son (Edwan) took over in 2005 and makes a more approachable style - more pure, lighter. And he hired a winemaker…
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White
2022 Chanson Père & Fils Bourgogne Blanc France, Burgundy, Bourgogne Blanc
A blend of purchased must, fermented at a winery in Savigny-les-Beaune. And 50-60.000btls from Haut Serein around Chablis. A minimal % of new oak. Comes off as less than 15% to the nose
Lots of fresh pear fruit on the palate, big pear. Not oaky on the palate and more generously fruited.
White
2021 Chanson Père & Fils Chablis 1er Cru Montmains France, Burgundy, Chablis, Chablis 1er Cru
Well, that’s pretty. Crisp green apple aroma. Less chalky than sea shell. All used barrel here, whereas the village wine would be done in all stainless.
White
2020 Domaine Chanson Beaune 1er Cru Bastion France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Beaune 1er Cru
Bressandes/Marconnets/Ecu/young Clos de Mouches. ‘More obvious oak.’
Graham aromas, toasted lemon curd, crème brûlée, vanilla. Solid alternative to more prestigious white village appellations.
White
2020 Domaine Chanson Savigny-lès-Beaune 1er Cru Hauts Marconnets Blanc France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Savigny-lès-Beaune 1er Cru
More nuanced oak, excellent and more focus after Beaune Bastion 2020 Blanc. Not as graham cracker. ‘More sand on the Savigny side of Marconnets.’
White
2020 Domaine Chanson Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Mouches Blanc France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Beaune 1er Cru
Clos Des Mouches is 20ha. Chanson owns 4ha, Drouhin owns 14ha. 3 others own the other 2ha.
Mouches = Flys/Bees
The top Beaune 1er Cru White (for Chanson?)
Vincent calls the saltiness the sign of a grand vin.
More almond to the aromas, and treads into vanilla again.
Red
2022 Chanson Père & Fils Pinot Noir Bourgogne France, Burgundy, Bourgogne
Both bulk juice and harvested fruit, noted that 2022 is comparable to 2015 vintage. A little cloudy, not bottled yet. Lots of cranberry aromas and a little meaty to the palate.
Red
2020 Chanson Père & Fils Beaune 1er Cru Bastion France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Beaune 1er Cru
Some toasty oak to the nose. Large volume here. 25ha between 10 sites of Beaune 1er Cru. 50,000-80,000btsl
Red
2020 Domaine Chanson Pernand-Vergelesses 1er Cru Les Vergelesses France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Pernand-Vergelesses 1er Cru
From the bottom of the hill, more clay leads to more body, muscle and flesh. Next to GC Corton, yes a darker fruit aspect, medium/- tannin. Clay-based soils take less stems added back. A wine for Beef Bourginon, steak and dry aged beef.
Red
2020 Domaine Chanson Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Marconnets France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Beaune 1er Cru
Most fruit so far amongst the reds. Red cherry, whole cluster (Spices/Roses/Black Pepper). From Mid-slope on a steep site w/ stoney soil, no clay. More tannin (med tannin), muscle-y. W/ Briant Savarin Cheese. Jean Anthelme Brillat-Savarin was a lawyer from Dijon who was considered France’s first Gastonomic Food Writer.
Red
2020 Domaine Chanson Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Fèves France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Beaune 1er Cru
A Monopole for Chanson. Less steep than Clos Des Marconnets, and some WC here again too. Again, lots of fruit here, but dark black cherry and not the red fruited nature of Marconnets 2020. ‘Flowers/violets/licorice’. Not nearly as muscular as Marconnets either, and I’m fine with that…
White
2014 Chanson Père & Fils Meursault 1er Cru Les Perrières France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault 1er Cru
Fresh and still youthful aroma and palate. Very clean, salty for Meursault. Lemon/lime, oak is close to resolving on the palate. Still lightly there. More so on the nose.
Red
2017 Domaine Chanson Beaune 1er Cru Clos des Fèves France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Beaune 1er Cru
From Magnum
Lots of red cherry aroma and palate. Medium minus tannin. With these savory lentils really opens up to cherry bubblegum notes on the palate.
Red
2002 Chanson Père & Fils Corton France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Corton Grand Cru
Served Blind
Ca’ c’est surprise…now that’s some harmonious aromas. Fresh and vibrant palate. Light tannin. Red cherry, some light earth, but no where near what the unlabeled bottle would suggest. Chanson 2002 Le Corton. Still extremely primary. Still lots of color. Light garnet to the rim. No browning. Not estate grown. Pairs well with the rasp/straw/blueberry/red currant tart, w/ raspberry coulis.

Additional Chanson Notes:
Count De Vergennes was Foreign Secretary of Louis the ?? XIV. Signed French / American alliance to fight the Brits. W/ Benjamin Franklin - Hence the significance of the Corton-Vergennees to the USA.

and

Citeaux - Cistercian Monks n da cheese

Flight 6 - @ Chateau de Nalys (5 notes)

W/ Ralph Garcin - Director. He came over from Chateau La Nerthe in 2019.
Founded in 1633 by Jacques Nalys. Grand Pierre is the lieu dit. He had a contract with the Church until the French Revolution.
Du Nerthe family sold Nalys to an Insurance group after WWII. In the early 70s the Shah of Iran was going to buy the estate, but the French government stepped in.
Bought by the Guigals in 2017, and the previous team stayed intact.
Here the grapes, by law, must be handpicked.
5 weeks to pick, 75ha/200acres, 16 grapes across 66 blocks
2023 - rain deficit of 85%
Drip irrigation isn’t allowed, until it’s allowed.
50yr old average vine age.
Next vintage (2024) they will be certified Organic.
The whites are now picked early than they were previously at the property and the reds are picked later. Both conscious choices.

In CndP 35hl/ha max, but at Nalys 25hl/ha.

Historically here, it’s noted, bad quality wines from great vineyards. Robert Parker was harsh on the wines of Nalys, calling them ‘wine for picnics.’

Chateau Rayas is adjacent to Nalys and not all too far from where we’re at. It’s noted that Rayas is 30 acres of vineyard and 30 acres of forest. The old vines are in the middle of the forest that acts like an AC.

@ Nalys they’re re-planting trees at the edges. for trees on the north and vines on the south.

4 soil types in CndP and 3 of those @ Nalys
1. Gres - Stones/Compact (Sand&Silica/Shells). A high % @ Nalys, red sand, iron oxide, a touch of clay
2. Pure Sand (white) - St Pierre de Nalys wines - more finesse, used to be the seabed - Grenache, Cinsault, Bourboulenc, Terret
3. Pebbles - Nalys white and red
4. Limestone - they don’t have any of these soils @ Nalys - best for Whites - Chateau de La Gardine

Bush Vines vs Trellis w 2 cordons on the wire.

Trellis protects against the winds. Syrah is naturally fragile and trellis is better for it.

On trellis’d cordons, there can be up to a week of different ripeness. Far from the truck gets ripe first and close to the truck ripens a week later. Bush Vines w/ 4–5 arms have more uniform ripening.

Trellises tend to sun burn, and less burn on bush vines.

Nalys has 1/10th of La Crau (that’s the site with big stones - they came down from Chamonix near the Swiss Alps). Vieux Telegraphe is the #1 holder of acreage in La Crau.
Stones of 1. Flint (reductive quality), 2.Quartz (minerality), 3. Sandstone
The stones hold heat, also trap heat, to keep the soil cooler. Vine age in La Crau gets up to 65 yrs and then the vines are re-planted. 1 vine here equals 1 bottle of wine.

In 2020 they bought a parcel from Clee d’Or (also bought Domaine Mercier in 2020), Old Vine Grenache plantings from 1904 (the pic after the La Crau Pebbles pic) - La Crau Centennaire (north facing, less hot, longer hangtime). it’s all virus’s, but they take the buds, grow new vines from the buds. <20hl/ha here. 1/2btl per vine. it’s noted that they get 40-42C daytime temps here, but down to 20C at night.

When the glaciers melted after the last ice age, H2O flowed to the Mediterranean, but Gibraltar was closed at the time, so sea level in the Med went up, eventually techtonics opened Gibraltar and the H20 escaped to the Atlantic.

In the Chai…
Only 3 rows of Muscardin planted at Nalys and no Picpoul Gris.

40hl (5000btls) foudre are for Grenache. About 1.5-2ha go into each foudre.
Medium size barrels for Syrah and the small barrels are for Mourvèdre. (See pics)

White
2021 Château de Nalys Châteauneuf-du-Pape Saintes Pierres de Nalys Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
>60% Grenache Blanc
20% Terret Blanc
10% Bourboulenc (for acid)
<10% Picardin, Picpoul, Clairette, others

Clairette is noted as giving zest, but also noted as having skins so thick, it’s picked with the reds, and can have a little tannin.

6% of CndP is Blanc.
It’s noted that the Saint Pierre de Nalys wines are from vines planted on white sand (elegance, finesse, not power).

Tree fruit aromas and some melon notes and modestly frosty tones. Light creamy oak and light brown spice to the palate. The whites are inoculated.

St Pierre isn’t a second wine - it’s different typicity.
White
2021 Château de Nalys Châteauneuf-du-Pape Grand Vin Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
From plantings on Pebbles w/ clay.
40% Grenache Blanc, 40% Roussanne, 20% Clairette.
‘Rich aroma, precise palate’
Wildly fresh and vibrant, holy s***, lots of mineral aromas. This is outstanding.
Freshness comes from picking these whites earlier. No malo on either white@ the estate. Conceals its oak more than the Saint Pierre 2021 white.

Clairette = grapefruit
Red
2020 Château de Nalys Châteauneuf-du-Pape Saintes Pierres de Nalys France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
2020 was a fruity vintage.
2019 - monsters
2018 - difficult vintage. Wet @ pruning, w/ loads of mold & disease pressure. 50% of crop lost (mostly Grenache) as they couldn’t spray. Rest of the 2018 season was excellent w/ concentration and excellent quality.

In 2018 they lost so much Grenache, that they couldn’t entirely get the style they wanted, as it tended towards too much Syrah and Mourvèdre.

Here:
70% Grenache
20% Syrah
10% Cinsault, Terret Noir, Picpoul (all for spiciness)

2years in big cask, 15.2% ABV. Chewy, light tannin. ‘Balsamic w/ age’
This is f****** excellent and charming
Red
2020 Château de Nalys Châteauneuf-du-Pape Grand Vin France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
More mineral aromas, less fruit. On the palate, a little more mineral-styled spice.
In this wine 20-25% WC, and only on the OV Grenache.
Comments from Ralph around WC in CndP:
Grenache has to be ripe to have nice tannin.
WC can 1. be away to add water to a wine, 2. Keeps ferment temp down/keeps ratio of ferment lower
Also, tannin ripe stems can add a little meatiness to the wine
More whole cluster —-> less acid in your wine, but can give an alternate impression of freshness.
Stem tannin is tough to destroy and can be key component to wines that can age forever (aka La Landonne).
Red
2020 Château de Nalys Châteauneuf-du-Pape Les Craus Centennaires France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
From 3 blocks, 120yr old vines, 100% Grenache, 40% WC, 600L old barrel (2008 was first fill), 2yrs in barrel. 144btls
Waxy red Crisco aromas. Medium/- ruby color. Light pepperiness to the palate.
‘Almost like a liqueur, soft, low acid, almost sweet.’
14.?%
In 2021 they’re playing around with the recipe (wild yeast, different oak).

Flight 7 - Guigal w/ Phillipe Guigal (23 notes)

Phillipe’s Grandfather, Etienne founded the estate in 1946. His dad, Marcel, now 80 years old, still shows up to the office @ 4:15am during the week. Etienne completed 67 vintages, Marcel 63 vintages, Phillipe, an only child, now 30 vintages. He has two kids 12 years old.

Guigal owns Vidal Fleury (founded in 1781), it’s run completely independent of E Guigal, Phillipe visits them 2x/yr
They also just purchased a new Tavel/Lirac producer, Chateau d’Aqueria.

At Guigal - all vilification is done in stainless, in the cellar there are 5000 barrels, they have their own cooperage. 850-900 new barrels/year. Wine goes into barrel for 36m on average and used 3x, so used for approx 9 years/each. Then lots get shipped to Scotch producers like Bruichladdich, Gordon Macphail and more. The founders get used for 50 years plus.
The small barrels are for the Syrah, as the reductive nature of Syrah wants for more O2.
220 larger 60hl barrels mainly for Grenache, and the CdR Rouge.
The 1999 Guigal Châteauneuf-du-Pape that was WS#1 had some components stored into new 60hl, and Phillipe feels that contributed to it’s #1 honor.

Cote Rotie has 2,400 years of winemaking tradition. In the cellar pic with Phillipe, the tile mosaic is 1,900 years old. They boast a 6acre cellar of 350 years old, it’s the oldest in Cote Rotie and it’s FULL. 12C in the winter, 13C in the summer, 90% humidity and 2m underground. The new part of the cellar that were currently in was built 9 years ago. It’s noted that the proximity to the Rhône River makes for shallow cellars. And they have 45,000hl of storage in the Southern Rhône.

All of their blending for the last 67 years has happened in the historic family tasting room.

Production @ Guigal is 10M Bottles of which 5-6M is CdR.
Upstairs from the cellar are 140 stainless steel vats for blending 37,000hl
10M btls is 1.5%% of all Rhône production
The Côtes du Rhône bottling is comprised of LOTS of small LOTS. 800-850 winery lots go into the CdR bottling. 500hl, 250hl, and 100hl lots. Not 5000hl, not 3000hl. It’s noted that 50hl lots are the smallest that they can buy. Everyday they taste between 100-150 samples, and they only select about 2% of the lots they taste. They lots are then pre-blended over the course of the 3 years.

50hl and 100hl vats are continually blended together over the course of the 3 years, by the time they get to 750hl vats, they are stylistically/tasting profile very similar. It’s noted that they bottle all year long.
Negociants CdR Rouge has to be 50%+ Grenache by communication, but in reality potentially 55% Syrah.
By Dec 80-90% of purchases are made, but Phillipe’s dad, didn’t buy before Feb.
Brokers are now paid a miserable 1% rate, but Guigal pays 2% to get exclusivity rather than whoever calls first, and this compensates for teh geography of the N Rhône.

2018/19/20 - 5M btls excellent quality. 2021 - 1.5M btls - same quality.
2022 will be 6M btls. 2020 maybe up to 5.5/6M btls, as they are allowed to blend 15% of other vintages, but they choose not to blend between vintages. 2008 was just 150,000btls. 1993 was ZERO, but could have been 2-3M btls.
Boxing/unboxing, 3ppl and 7 robots installed 19yrs ago. For this part, the human component doesn’t help quality. Total 170 people work here and 37 of those are in the vineyards.

In the fermentation room, auto-punch downs started 5yrs ago. They were the first here to experiment with this.

in Bordeaux, malo needs to happen within one weeks to blend for en primeur, or people get nervous. Here it could be Oct/Nov, cold April/May. They have 3 years really.

8-9% of Rhône is white wines, @ Guigal they are 25% Whites.

After lunch to Chateau d'Ampuis and then the vineyards of Cote Rotie...
Cote Blonde is South (Granite--->Elegance)
Cote Brune is North (Schist--->Power) More clay here for more power.
S---->N = La Mouline, La Turque, La Landonne

there are 330ha in the AOC and 325 of those are planted.

Chateau d'Ampuis. The oldest part is from the 11th Century, more added on in 12th Century and then the modern building in the 16th Century.

They have a cooperage on site and they build about 5 barrels/day. they have one guy that works here solo, he's been here 20yrs.
From the Alliers forest and others The forests are government owned and managed.

@ La Mouline - not a lot of clay, so there's significant erosion here. They use hand tills and hoes here.

-Le Clos, La Garde, La Grandes Places are some of the sites that surround La Mouline in the Cote Blonde

In my pics from La Mouline, we see the Cote Brune. more schist here. la Turque is just behind sign in the picture with the black house. The red house (Pavillon Rouge) just right of La Turque is Pommiere.
Le Moulin (windmill) under Pavillon Rouge. La Reynard is to the left of la Turque and is the new terraces in the picture. The houses in the pics are just covered cisterns.

2022 will be the first vintage of La Reynard. Reynard is the name a the small stream at the lower part of the slope. Iron Oxide w/ more clay (tannin) and schist. The Clay in the Cote Brune gives more strength and power.

White
2022 E. Guigal Côtes du Rhône Blanc France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône
This was released one month ago.
60% Viognier w/ Roussanne, Bourboulenc, Marsanne and a little Grenache Blanc.
Very ripe pear, creamy pear aromas. Palate is less ripe, but still lots of pear. As consumers leave White Burg due to price, they expect an increase @ Guigal.
White
2019 E. Guigal Crozes-Hermitage Blanc France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Crozes-Hermitage
95% Marsanne, 5% Roussanne.
Shows some oak to the nose.
‘A strategic wine in the portfolio, matches best with seafood.’
Crozes Blanc is much bigger than St Joseph Blanc…
No malo here and it shows. ‘Strong minerality.’
White
2020 E. Guigal St. Joseph Blanc France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph
95% Marsanne, 5% Roussanne. More savory aromas. ‘More complexity, more depth.’ Slopes here in St Joseph, while Crozes Blanc is on the flats. Doesn’t show the oak of Crozes, and the savory doesn’t follow onto the palate, but yes, very mineral.
White
2021 E. Guigal Condrieu France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Condrieu
To drink within 5yrs max. 2021 was a challenging vintage, as 50% was lost to frost. This will carry over to a 10% loss in 2022. Picked at 14%, but it was a challenge to ripen in 2021. Not as white peach, but lots of suave pear.
White
2021 E. Guigal Condrieu La Doriane France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Condrieu
Viognier vs Chardonnay

Dorian’s is 30-33hl/ha, if you go ove 40hl/ha it’s water and not scalable like Chardonnay.

45-50hl/ha in Montrachet. Chile is 3x th yields and still drinkable.

Doriane 2021 is 8-10yrs. Oak punches on the nose more than the basic.
8-9months in new oak, vinified and aged in oak. Apricot, peach, cherries and close.

‘Viognier is great with asparagus and Hollandaise. Great with Fois Gras. Truffle Omlets, Rhône Black Truffle.
White
2019 E. Guigal Hermitage Blanc France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
‘Good for 20yrs of aging.’ Did he say, Chave Hermitage Rouge is to be drunk before the Chave Blanc?
More mineral aromas. Absolutely, totally f****** pretty aromas. Soft and supple, not distinctly new oak. Almond paste.
93% Marsanne, and 7% Roussanne
White
2020 E. Guigal Ermitage Blanc Ex-Voto France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Ex-Voto - The Acknowledgement of a Blessing
‘Consequently to the wish…’
A votive offering. An offering given to fulfil a vow.
In 2001, the received 4ha of Hermitage in the best site.

Much more mineral aromas. All Estate here, regular is blended with purchased fruit. Much more broad palate, extreme depth to the palate. 30m in oak, but shows extreme balance.
Rosé
2022 E. Guigal Côtes du Rhône Rosé France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône
1M btls, bubble gum aromas. Watermelon with a bitter foil.
Rosé
2021 E. Guigal Tavel France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Tavel
First vintage for Guigal was 1942, released in 1946
‘Tavel is not the story of Cotes de Provence, it’s not seasonal.

Majority is Grenache, Syrah, Cinsault, Mourvèdre, and a little Clairette.
Softer, but still bubblegum.

They had just purchased, Chateau Aqueria, most famous estate in Tavel.
Red
2020 E. Guigal Côtes du Rhône France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône
55% Syrah, 5% Mourvèdre (40% Grenache?)
Phillipe loves 2019 for the quality of the tannin
2020 is a large and rich vintage. East commercially.
Raspberry configure aromas. Darker berry palate, tar and light grill marks. Light tannin.
Red
2020 E. Guigal Crozes-Hermitage France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Crozes-Hermitage
This bottling benefits from warm vintages. A light and fine pepper, citronella.
They like the hillside sites for the Crozes Red.
Red
2019 E. Guigal St. Joseph France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph
More fruit and freshness than the 2020 Crozes (vintage speaking?)
Red fruit salad character to the palate, cherry.
The 2020 CdR has had the most tannin thus far
Red
2020 E. Guigal Gigondas France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Gigondas
The trend is towards elegant and sophisticated Gigondas. That is not the Guigal approach.
A significant % or Mourvèdre here at 30-33%. Makes for a more square and massive wine.
Generous dark berry and light brown sugar palate. Inky and gets a bit olive to thr palate.
Red
2018 E. Guigal Châteauneuf-du-Pape France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
Old vine Grenache in here, and that requires more time from vintage to show.
More sweet, generous and open red fruit aromas. Soft and fine pepper to the finish. Light earthiness and exceptionally balanced.
Red
2020 E. Guigal Hermitage France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
Generous, and a wall of sound of an aroma, framed with impressive and expressive ginger snap tones.
Red
2020 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
More muted nose after the 2020 Hermitage. And a much more linear palate. Not nearly as open for biz as the 2020 Hermitage. Light olive.
50% new barrel, 50% second fill for 30months.
Red
2019 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Château d'Ampuis France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
1995 was the first vintage of d’Ampuis for Guigal, but bottlings go back to the 19th century.
Oak pops through a fine grained olive expression.
Like a berry wood shop.
Medium minus tannin, black cherry pie
38m, 100% new barrel.
Red
2019 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Mouline France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
1ha, 5,000btls.
11% Viognier
The center of the Cote Blonde
1893 oldest plantings, 90yrs on average.
A more savory gingerbread aroma, loads more lift on thr palate and freshness over d’Ampuis.
Medium tannin, 25% WC and the oak is tucked in here a little more so.
Red
2019 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie La Turque France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
1ha, 4,000btls
7% Viognier and 25%WC
Cote Brune
Replanted in 1981, first vintage in 1985
Gets a darker aspect, the gingerbread is more enveloped in an elegant and fresh, salted finish.
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Red
2019 E. Guigal Ermitage Ex-Voto France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Hermitage
40 months, new oak.
70-75yr vine age on average.
100% Syrah.
more broad fruit, much chewier than the Cote Rotie(s).
a 50 meter difference here gives extra ripeness (relative to???)
White
2018 E. Guigal Condrieu France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Condrieu
@ lunch, can't recall where, but on the Rhone watching boats float by
w/ Fromage de Condrieu - Goats Cheese
-excellent pairing, that sweetens up the wine. And make the maturity of the 2018 more fruity.
Red
2007 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Brune et Blonde France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
@ lunch
extraordinary aromas. red raspberry, floral. raspberry flower, not violet. a little iron note too.
Red
2018 E. Guigal Côte-Rôtie Château d'Ampuis France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, Côte-Rôtie
@ Restaurant Beau Rivage w/ Philipe Guigal

Fresh but full. Just shy of being overtly meaty. A little pepper astringency. with loads of fruit. With time in glass, start to close down. Needs tonnes of time and not too expressive at this point.
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