Dinner at Terroir (Utrecht, NL): [Restaurant purchase] at restaurant Terroir, Utrecht. No detailed notes. Great wine, very rich both on the nose and palate. Residual sucre balanced by the great acidity
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Off-dry, with hints of honey, lemon oil, crabapple, and mango commingling throughout. There's good purity of fruit here and a luxurious richness to boot, but as others have noted I was begging for more acidity by the third sip.
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Had with «pinnekjøtt» traditional lamb dried in salt. Worked well with the salty food, rich and heavy, with low acidity, almost like a viognier, but not with the same florality naturally. A bit of the typical Chenin flavours. Packed in a bit of residual sugar, wich was 10grams, contributing to its richness, but furthers put it of balance.
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Another disappointing bottle of this for me; as much as I like Chidaine's dry whites I just didn't really get into this one; maybe it was the vintage? It's fine and drinkable, but just seems a bit too round and lacks acidity to keep it fresh; with the roundness and the sweetness it just ends up feeling blah...
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Subtly distinctive and quite compelling. Sec tendre - slightly off dry to you and me - but where that sometimes comes across as a layer that’s not fully integrated in something like a Kabinett this is totally cohesive like it was the only plan all along. Acidity is well judged, controlled ripeness with flavours of nougat, bay, honey, yellow plum. There’s a leesy savoury edge and some tannic grip. Loved it.
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Not having had this before, not sure if it’s flawed or I just don’t care for it. None of the bright fruit from their dry chenin. Alcohol seems disjointed. More dry than I expected
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Pale yellow gold color. Lovely nose with honeysuckle and tangerine. Slightly sweet but with good acidity so great qith food especially with a little spice. Held up well the next day.
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This was a little better than the prior bottle probably because of an improved pairing; with earthy saag paneer with a bit of spice this was good. The nose is honeyed orchard fruits, wool, earth, grass. The palate is still a bit too sweet for the level of acidity for me. It just seems to flatten out and not have enough energy to really drive through the palate. Its not bad, but its disappointing given the reputation of the producer.
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90 Los vinos de Chidaine siempre tienen elegancia, y este no es menos. Bonito color amarillo intenso. Nariz mineral y floral. Intensidad media. En boca es voluminoso, con buena acidez cítrica. Es cremoso. Buen final.
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Nice richness and sweetness on the opening with pear and some tropical notes, transitioning to herbs, vanilla bean, and citrus. Nice acidity. Overall very good.
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I may have sold this a little short last tasting. This had a nice combination of pear and citrus but still with enough acidic structure to cut through Asian food last night. Maybe just hit me the right way this time. Don’t think it’s bottle variation, just taster variation 😵💫. I notice I didn’t even take my own advice to wait. I still think this deserves a couple of years in the cellar. At any rate , bumped up the rating accordingly. Score : 90. Relative to expectations: +
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A touch more honeyed on the nose, still has apple and pear and Chenin funk; just a touch of sugar showing here but lovely delicacy and balance. Would be a good aperitif. Lovely complexity on the finish.
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Pnp. Actually less sugary than I feared given the Chidaine chart on the bottle and 2018 ripeness. It is still quite Demi-sec. This is a pleasant and crowd pleasing Montlouis but it in my view pales in comparison to either the dry Argiles or the magnificent Baudoins. Maybe it will age better than either of those. I intend to keep my remaining bottles to find out. For now I will drink up the Baudoins. Score: 88+? Relative to expectations: 0
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First bottle from Chidaine; this was listed as "tendre" in the sweetness sector and it was sweeter than I anticipated. Nose was good with honeyed orchard fruits, some stone and citrus peel, white floral notes. The palate was sweeter and richer than I really wanted it to be and lacked a bit of energy for me. Certainly enjoyable. Will age the other bottles and see how they change.
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Monsieur Chidaine is amongst many known as the king of Montlouis, and makes a variety of cuvées from different plots and soils - always with an eloquent feel for the balance between racy acidity, minerality, and the more generous side of Chenin blanc. Les Tuffeaux has an understated richness to it, with aromas of white peach, apricot, baked apple, honeysuckle, chamomile, and a chalky mineral touch. Just a slight sweetness on the tongue. Pure and ripe orange, baked apple, tangerine, and sweet lemons in the back. Tightens up with fresh, steely acidity, and an ever-present nerve of chalk and graphite. Great concentration. Long finish, ending on a touch of orange peel bitterness.
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I was a bit bummed by this after the 2 94 point reviews from V and WS. Unfortunately, this didn't go very well with my blond pasta puttanesca (Colu Henry NYT - a great recipe). I was surprised that this wine was a little sweet (I confess that I don't understand these Chenin blancs). The 2017 Chidaine Clos Habert that I had recently was even sweeter than this one, but I liked it better than this one (but, the 2017 Les Bournais was the best of the bunch - an unreal good wine, truly special - and not sweet at all). The Clos Habert was 12.5%, this one is 14%. This wine has a somewhat bitter aftertaste unfortunately. Now for the positives on this one: it has a beautiful creamy mouthfeel, papaya, honeysuckle, richness, nice acidity, salinity, fairly long finish - all wonderful and delightful qualities. I hope with time the bitterness will go away and the wine will be more pleasant with food (or maybe I'll just have the next one on its own, or will research how to pair a wine like this!). I have 1 left and I'll try it in 10 years or so.
4/11/2024 - ThijsV Likes this wine: 92 Points
Dinner at Terroir (Utrecht, NL): [Restaurant purchase] at restaurant Terroir, Utrecht. No detailed notes. Great wine, very rich both on the nose and palate. Residual sucre balanced by the great acidity
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4/6/2024 - ziavino wrote: 90 Points
Off-dry, with hints of honey, lemon oil, crabapple, and mango commingling throughout. There's good purity of fruit here and a luxurious richness to boot, but as others have noted I was begging for more acidity by the third sip.
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1/7/2024 - andrei trolldeig wrote: 84 Points
Had with «pinnekjøtt» traditional lamb dried in salt. Worked well with the salty food, rich and heavy, with low acidity, almost like a viognier, but not with the same florality naturally. A bit of the typical Chenin flavours. Packed in a bit of residual sugar, wich was 10grams, contributing to its richness, but furthers put it of balance.
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12/9/2023 - trumpet60201 wrote: 89 Points
2nd of 2. I enjoyed this with food - pretty simple and straightforward.
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11/21/2022 - jnewman77 wrote:
Another disappointing bottle of this for me; as much as I like Chidaine's dry whites I just didn't really get into this one; maybe it was the vintage? It's fine and drinkable, but just seems a bit too round and lacks acidity to keep it fresh; with the roundness and the sweetness it just ends up feeling blah...
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11/15/2022 - Joshvoulters Likes this wine: 90 Points
Subtly distinctive and quite compelling. Sec tendre - slightly off dry to you and me - but where that sometimes comes across as a layer that’s not fully integrated in something like a Kabinett this is totally cohesive like it was the only plan all along. Acidity is well judged, controlled ripeness with flavours of nougat, bay, honey, yellow plum. There’s a leesy savoury edge and some tannic grip. Loved it.
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9/21/2022 - kitkat4 Does not like this wine:
Not having had this before, not sure if it’s flawed or I just don’t care for it. None of the bright fruit from their dry chenin. Alcohol seems disjointed. More dry than I expected
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8/13/2022 - DH90 Likes this wine: 91 Points
Pale yellow gold color. Lovely nose with honeysuckle and tangerine. Slightly sweet but with good acidity so great qith food especially with a little spice. Held up well the next day.
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4/27/2022 - jnewman77 wrote:
This was a little better than the prior bottle probably because of an improved pairing; with earthy saag paneer with a bit of spice this was good. The nose is honeyed orchard fruits, wool, earth, grass. The palate is still a bit too sweet for the level of acidity for me. It just seems to flatten out and not have enough energy to really drive through the palate. Its not bad, but its disappointing given the reputation of the producer.
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4/2/2022 - gallu wrote: 90 Points
90 Los vinos de Chidaine siempre tienen elegancia, y este no es menos. Bonito color amarillo intenso. Nariz mineral y floral. Intensidad media. En boca es voluminoso, con buena acidez cítrica. Es cremoso. Buen final.
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11/14/2021 - malbrecht wrote: 90 Points
Nice richness and sweetness on the opening with pear and some tropical notes, transitioning to herbs, vanilla bean, and citrus. Nice acidity. Overall very good.
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10/25/2021 - JJYoyo Likes this wine: 90 Points
I may have sold this a little short last tasting. This had a nice combination of pear and citrus but still with enough acidic structure to cut through Asian food last night. Maybe just hit me the right way this time. Don’t think it’s bottle variation, just taster variation 😵💫. I notice I didn’t even take my own advice to wait. I still think this deserves a couple of years in the cellar. At any rate , bumped up the rating accordingly.
Score : 90. Relative to expectations: +
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10/7/2021 - vespasian wrote: 91 Points
A touch more honeyed on the nose, still has apple and pear and Chenin funk; just a touch of sugar showing here but lovely delicacy and balance. Would be a good aperitif. Lovely complexity on the finish.
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9/3/2021 - JJYoyo Likes this wine: 88 Points
Pnp. Actually less sugary than I feared given the Chidaine chart on the bottle and 2018 ripeness. It is still quite Demi-sec. This is a pleasant and crowd pleasing Montlouis but it in my view pales in comparison to either the dry Argiles or the magnificent Baudoins. Maybe it will age better than either of those. I intend to keep my remaining bottles to find out. For now I will drink up the Baudoins.
Score: 88+? Relative to expectations: 0
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8/20/2021 - jnewman77 wrote:
First bottle from Chidaine; this was listed as "tendre" in the sweetness sector and it was sweeter than I anticipated. Nose was good with honeyed orchard fruits, some stone and citrus peel, white floral notes. The palate was sweeter and richer than I really wanted it to be and lacked a bit of energy for me. Certainly enjoyable. Will age the other bottles and see how they change.
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8/9/2021 - janhenro Likes this wine: 89 Points
Monsieur Chidaine is amongst many known as the king of Montlouis, and makes a variety of cuvées from different plots and soils - always with an eloquent feel for the balance between racy acidity, minerality, and the more generous side of Chenin blanc. Les Tuffeaux has an understated richness to it, with aromas of white peach, apricot, baked apple, honeysuckle, chamomile, and a chalky mineral touch. Just a slight sweetness on the tongue. Pure and ripe orange, baked apple, tangerine, and sweet lemons in the back. Tightens up with fresh, steely acidity, and an ever-present nerve of chalk and graphite. Great concentration. Long finish, ending on a touch of orange peel bitterness.
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5/27/2021 - chbeaumont wrote: 88 Points
Pale; oyster shell;, lacks clarity; deft, exquisite, lovely; nice weight on finish.
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2/21/2021 - trumpet60201 Likes this wine: 90 Points
I was a bit bummed by this after the 2 94 point reviews from V and WS. Unfortunately, this didn't go very well with my blond pasta puttanesca (Colu Henry NYT - a great recipe). I was surprised that this wine was a little sweet (I confess that I don't understand these Chenin blancs). The 2017 Chidaine Clos Habert that I had recently was even sweeter than this one, but I liked it better than this one (but, the 2017 Les Bournais was the best of the bunch - an unreal good wine, truly special - and not sweet at all). The Clos Habert was 12.5%, this one is 14%. This wine has a somewhat bitter aftertaste unfortunately. Now for the positives on this one: it has a beautiful creamy mouthfeel, papaya, honeysuckle, richness, nice acidity, salinity, fairly long finish - all wonderful and delightful qualities. I hope with time the bitterness will go away and the wine will be more pleasant with food (or maybe I'll just have the next one on its own, or will research how to pair a wine like this!). I have 1 left and I'll try it in 10 years or so.
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