Gravner's first commercial skin-contact white ever. 13% alcohol. Served blind.
Cloudy dark bronze color. Pungent, thoroughly oxidized and dead nose with aromas of stale rye bread, earth and a hint of rancid butter. Quite unpleasant and disagreeable nose. The wine is medium-bodied on the palate with quite high acidity. The flavors are long past their peak with unpleasant flavors of stale rye bread, rancid butter, some mushroomy earth and a hint of mouldy apple. The finish is long and dead with unpleasant, oxidized flavors of rancid butter, stale bread, mouldy apple and peanut butter.
This wine was unfortunately long past its peak and completely oxidized. There was nothing left of the wine and the overall aroma and taste were really unpleasant. Quite a shame, I had been looking forward tasting older Gravners.
Orange, Sicily, Cowan and some others (Chagrin Falls): I brought this from home to add. It can be difficult to find a time to open wines like this and this had sat in my cellar for a long time waiting for the right time. Actually, I had intentionally let it sit to see how these age. IIRC, this is Pignolo. After this vintage, they didn't make it for a while due to frost damage. For some reason I thought this was also before the amphorae era, but the rep said disagreed and thought it was always in amphorae. In any event, we decanted the wine but that wasn't really necessary. There was not a lot of sediment. Golden in color. The nose is really nice; hazelnuts, orange rind, slight honey and minerals. On the palate, this is one of the most complex white wines I have ever had. Just so much going on but so well orchestrated. It doesn't seem to have budged much since I first had it maybe 15 or so years ago. It may have tasted "old" then, it tastes young for 22 now. Orange rind, nutty, and mineral drive with fresh acidity. Long finish. Not sure what the crowd thought, but for me this was gorgeous.
Some Wines at Jack & Joanne's: Oxidative sherry-like nose, cream soda, quite lactic. Nice weight and nuttiness on the palate, with quinine and bitter herbs. Awkward and a little out of sorts, but seems to have good potential. Needs time?
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7/25/2017 - forceberry wrote: flawed
Gravner's first commercial skin-contact white ever. 13% alcohol. Served blind.
Cloudy dark bronze color. Pungent, thoroughly oxidized and dead nose with aromas of stale rye bread, earth and a hint of rancid butter. Quite unpleasant and disagreeable nose. The wine is medium-bodied on the palate with quite high acidity. The flavors are long past their peak with unpleasant flavors of stale rye bread, rancid butter, some mushroomy earth and a hint of mouldy apple. The finish is long and dead with unpleasant, oxidized flavors of rancid butter, stale bread, mouldy apple and peanut butter.
This wine was unfortunately long past its peak and completely oxidized. There was nothing left of the wine and the overall aroma and taste were really unpleasant. Quite a shame, I had been looking forward tasting older Gravners.
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4/12/2017 - Loren Sonkin wrote: 94 Points
Orange, Sicily, Cowan and some others (Chagrin Falls): I brought this from home to add. It can be difficult to find a time to open wines like this and this had sat in my cellar for a long time waiting for the right time. Actually, I had intentionally let it sit to see how these age. IIRC, this is Pignolo. After this vintage, they didn't make it for a while due to frost damage. For some reason I thought this was also before the amphorae era, but the rep said disagreed and thought it was always in amphorae. In any event, we decanted the wine but that wasn't really necessary. There was not a lot of sediment. Golden in color. The nose is really nice; hazelnuts, orange rind, slight honey and minerals. On the palate, this is one of the most complex white wines I have ever had. Just so much going on but so well orchestrated. It doesn't seem to have budged much since I first had it maybe 15 or so years ago. It may have tasted "old" then, it tastes young for 22 now. Orange rind, nutty, and mineral drive with fresh acidity. Long finish. Not sure what the crowd thought, but for me this was gorgeous.
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4/10/2013 - LoireFan wrote: 91 Points
Five years later this wine declined a bit. Drink up.
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10/28/2008 - LoireFan wrote: 92 Points
Maybe 93-94. Still too young, needs at least five more years.
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10/25/2008 - 5laton wrote:
Some Wines at Jack & Joanne's: Oxidative sherry-like nose, cream soda, quite lactic. Nice weight and nuttiness on the palate, with quinine and bitter herbs. Awkward and a little out of sorts, but seems to have good potential. Needs time?
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