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2/25/2024 - honest bob wrote: 89 Points
From 75cl, perfect cork, quick decant, not much development in glass. This has settled down since my last TN (16.11.2023) into a good mid-range/bourgeois Spätburgunder. Bright, attractive, redcurrant-led berry scent; light-to medium bodied entry with the same regrettable boiled-sweet character I noted on 30.07.2022, but now with a serious tannic finish. Aiming higher than Ziereisen's excellent Tschuppen, this may well have a few secrets left in store in 2025-2027. 89P
The three German PN/SB producers whose wines I find most consistently satisfying, and keep coming back to, are Knipser (Pfalz), Künstler (Rheingau), and Ziereisen. Künstler's wines show beautifully early on, and I have often liked them best about 5-7 years after the vintage. Even the less expensive Ziereisen SB seem to benefit from 5 years in bottle, and when I have had the patience to wait, I have not yet been dissappointed trying them considerably later than that. Knipser's SB - especially the GGs - need real patience, and when I have opened a bottle earlier than 7-8 years afer the vintage it has often been a disappointment.
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11/16/2023 - honest bob wrote: 87 Points
From 75cl, v. good cork, decanted off powdery sediment 30 minutes, little change thereafter. Thin, attenuated scent, entry, mid-palate and finish. Red fruit, but not much; acidity, but not too much; hint of tannic grip, but... you get the point. Schulen is in the middle range of Ziereisen's SB portfolio, one of a few bottlings which I find harder to like than those at the extremes. Tschuppen is terrific, in-your-face quaffing wine, a bit squeaky and coarse, but at 12 EUR an amazing value. The Zispins are four times the price, for which you get intense concentration and lots of class. But Schulen, Talrain etc. seem to me to get caught in the middle, searching for finesse, but perhaps without the raw material to support it? 87P(?)
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7/23/2023 - Peter Kleban Likes this wine:
**+
My first Spätburgunder! Didn't know quite what to expect, but this one exceeded my (nonexistent) expectations anyway. On opening, a bit disjointed and incoherent, so I decanted about 20 min which helped. Then I left it overnight (with no N2), then put it under N2 for the duration. The next evening it was much improved and indeed very good. Long, balanced, and above all very compelling. The next two nights it seemed to have gained too much edge and I thought it was over the hill. However, a night or two later it bounced back! Quite an adventure for one bottle, but in any case the lesson for me is that Spätburgunder can be interesting indeed. I expect this will age into something very nice.
Finished this off on 8/22, after a month on the counter under N2. A bit rough and edgy to start out, but drinkable. Over the next hour it evened out some. A sign, I guess, that this has a long life ahead of it--and, now at least, needs lots of air!
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4/5/2023 - pmik wrote: 90 Points
90-. Vinnørd Holte
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2/23/2023 - angelcyn Likes this wine:
No comparison with the 2015 version, this is much more stripped down than that one, a bit tart, time will hopefully correct that, and a bit thin on the fruit, decent enough but nothing at this stage to get excited about.
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