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Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, 2018 - 12/22/2017 11:01:46 AM   
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List of inmates so far.
MOSTLY DEFINITE
S1/HRH
Mason H (2)
mc2wines (2)
mtpisgah (2)
BornToRhone (2)
champagneinhand (1)
Redrunners (2)
nycablover (2)


POSSIBLE
mclancy10006
skifree
bacchus
Ibetian
Robert Pavlovich
schwank
CranBurgundy
mindmuse
Pinotphile
Wineguy55


After taking several years off, I feel that I may have recovered enough to plan (or at least consider) another weekend of Southern debauchery, oops hospitality. The impetus for these weekends happened when Old Doug came to dinner at our place, about this time of year in 2011. I think we drank some wine. During those three years, I met people who I really hope will be lifetime friends. Hopefully, Kyser will still be with us in September. The old boozehound is 12, and is really slowing down, but still savoring Grand Cru Burgundy et al.
For newbies, here are the threads for I, II, and III.
https://www.cellartracker.com/forum/fb.asp?m=229317
https://www.cellartracker.com/forum/tm.asp?m=251374
https://www.cellartracker.com/forum/tm.asp?m=292729

For this event I will make some changes from the previous three.
1. We will not try to block rooms at Kings Courtyard (or anywhere else). That gives people the option of using points, staying at a fave location/brand, or sleeping on the beach or in Marion Square Park. I know that some folks will want to stay downtown, some at the beaches, some at golf resorts. We live on the northern (eastern) beach side of town so I would not recommend anyone staying at Kiawah or Seabrook. Since we won’t be staying at the inn, we will not have the courtyard for afternoon tastings, but I can reserve the clubhouse at our humble townhouse if necessary (sorry vets, we sold the house with the great sunroom). There are plenty of affordable UBER/LYFT etc. services locally.
2. I would put the afternoon tastings late in the day (or eliminate one or both if it is the will of the people), so people can plan outdoor activities such as museum visits, house/garden tours, harbor sails, fishing excursions… If golfers want to bring sticks, HRH and I might be able to arrange an event. mc2wines suggested "Champagne" as a possible theme.
3. I will really push for a private room, or at least a private area for dinners. Hall’s did not work for us the third year.
4. We will limit the number of bottles, and focus on quality. The first year was INSANE, the second wasn’t much better; I can still see BergBurg “asleep” on the bench outside the restaurant during dinner.

Late September seems to be the best time for most people, especially for HRH (which makes it the best time for me), and gives a time buffer for people to restore their blood alcohol to human levels before Tampa Spring Break. Let's just hope we don't get hurricaned like the last three years.

I would propose
Session 1—Burgundy Thursday Dinner at Mason’s home on the harbor
Capacity—12
SOLD OUT (unless we go to a restaurant)
This will be multi-course casual dinner with elegant overtones. S1 has designed a meal of luxury ingredients to pair with luxury wines. The Champagne should be Salon; the Sauternes should be Yquem. The level of Burgs should match. Mason’s house is a wonderful space in the historic “Old Village” section of Mt. Pleasant.
If interest exceeds 12 guests, we will need to find a restaurant. Also, when to guest list exceeds 12, my house rules dictate 2x of each bottle. Therefore, people should plan on tag-teaming.
S1 (2)
Mason H (2)
mc2wines (2)
BornTo Rhone (2)
champagneinhand (1)
skifree (maybe and maybe +1)
Redrunners (2)
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Session 2—maybe "Warm Weather Whites and Rosés" in the afternoon.
Session 3—Dinner—Pour to Impress M. (Thanks for that one, Brother Clancy). That day is M's (mc2wines) birthday so you have to bring wine to impress him! Right now we are looking at a BBQ dinner featuring Rodney Scott's pulled pork, and Lewis BBQ's smoked brisket.
http://www.rodneyscottsbbq.com
http://lewisbarbecue.com/
Session 4??—"Hipster Wines" in the afternoon. Or "Light Reds". Or, or, or… (We might omit this one so people can play outside)
Session 5—Dinner—Pour to Impress. I have contacted chef Marc about Circa 1886; we are booked! He always enjoys these events, and Circa has that great private room upstairs, which is now reserved for us. He and I will work on a dinner price.
As you plan wines, consider that this is an elegant meal in an elegant location, with foods specially prepared to pair with our wines. $100 per bottle should only be a starting point! Please dig out/source food friendly wines and declare ASAP. I will likely source wines to fill holes in the lineup, and I need to get them before shipping season closes.
https://www.circa1886.com/
Session 6?—Sunday afternoon for people who stay over.

Participants must bring two bottles of pour to impress wine per person (4 bottles per couple) for the weekend (not including Burgundy Thursday). The wine must be >$100.
Once the guest list exceeds 12 at an event, we will need to think about 2x of each wine; I’m not interested in a <2 oz pour. Several people, including me, tag-teamed bottles at previous events.
Here is the catch. HRH and I MIGHT be forcibly retired in June. I doubt that it will happen (I'm teacher of the year at my school so I have significant leverage), but it is a possibility. If we do get the boot, we won’t be living in Chas next fall. Chas IV would have to be in FL! We should know for sure this spring.

Declared Wines
(at least probabilities)
Burgundy Thursday
1996 Salon Champagne Blanc de Blancs Brut (possible—mc2wines)
2002 François Raveneau Chablis 1er Cru Chapelot (or maybe an '09 Coche Meursault) (S1)

M’s Birthday BBQ
2005 Alban Vineyards Syrah Lorraine x 2 (S1)
2006 Clarendon Hills Astralis x 2 (Redrunners)

Circa 1886
2008 Château Rayas Châteauneuf-du-Pape Reserve x 2 (nycablover)

Maybe ne of these as a white at Circa
(if no whites are declared)
2005 JL Chave Hermitage Blanc x 2 (S1)
2001 Domaine de Chevalier Graves Blanc x 2 (S1)
1990 Domaine Huet Vouvray Moelleux 1ère Trie Clos du Bourg x 2 (S1)
2002 Trimbach Riesling Clos Ste. Hune x 2 (S1)

Other Possibilities, depending on need
2012 Outpost Cabernet Sauvignon True Vineyard x 2 (Redrunners)
2012 Schrader Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon CCS Beckstoffer To-Kalon Vineyard x 2 (S1/Mason H tag-team)



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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 11:12:38 AM   
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Would love to make this work one of these times!

Late September isn't very workable for me however, so would vote for the early November option.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 11:16:58 AM   
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First off, I'm glad you moved South again. I bet these last few weeks of frigidness in Joizey chilled you to the bone.

Second, thanks for making me the Complaint Department.

Lastly, this sounds like a blast. If the dates work out, we might be able to attend.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 12:00:31 PM   
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Also intrigued, having never met you all. Sounds like I could bring my sticks and play and would LOVE to try some great burgs 'cuz I have never figured them out. Have lots of d'Yquem to offer.

The timing may be problematic (either one), so in reality less than 25 % I am afraid.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 12:15:18 PM   
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I am interested. Plenty of time to prep.


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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 1:38:10 PM   
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Yes, please

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 1:43:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mc2 wines

Yes, please

I'll start planning a menu

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 4:51:30 PM   
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With this much warning, I mean advanced notice, we might be in. We would love to do it again, we need to meet more CT'ers face to face.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 6:24:54 PM   
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Very interested to meet Kyser.
I might as well stop in at your wine event too. (sounds like fun!)

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/22/2017 11:13:53 PM   
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I would try my best to clear any time it could be worked out.

I know Bob and I could tag team on some Burg or with others. Just keep me up to date.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/23/2017 4:24:12 AM   
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We would be interested - depending on timing
Looks like another great event being planned

Thanks for organizing again

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/23/2017 6:47:12 AM   
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If we survive Tampa, we’re probably in.

I would probably have to find a worthy Burg. Where’s a good place to do so?

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/23/2017 7:18:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ibetian

If we survive Tampa, we’re probably in.

I would probably have to find a worthy Burg. Where’s a good place to do so?


Start first at Fort Knox...then it gets easier.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/23/2017 11:57:48 AM   
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We have many new reasons to be in Charleston - so maybe - depending on dates.

I may have to source the burgs...

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/23/2017 11:38:22 PM   
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This event has been a great read for me, and I would love to join in at some point. It sucks that I never have time to enjoy something like this.



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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/25/2017 8:00:41 PM   
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I am tempted to try and join depending on dates (busy the last weekend of the month). My brother lives in Charleston and it has been a long while since I've been there.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/26/2017 5:45:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: S1
Rodney Scott has a Chas branch now, and Lewis does world-class brisket (believe it or not, wineismylife).


Prove it.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/26/2017 9:53:37 AM   
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Would love to hob nob amongst the famous and the infamous.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV? (a trial balloon) - 12/26/2017 12:29:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wineismylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: S1
Rodney Scott has a Chas branch now, and Lewis does world-class brisket (believe it or not, wineismylife).


Prove it.

As I have told you, the front door and cellar door are always open for you.




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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/11/2018 10:08:26 AM   
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Accidental bump

I have been updating the OP without bumping but I goffed on this one.


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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/11/2018 11:14:04 AM   
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Damn, this sounds fun.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/12/2018 7:52:11 AM   
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This sounds like a great weekend, and given how much fun I had at last year's Tampa spring break and plan to have again at the festivities this year - we would also love to join the Charleston Offlineorama IV. I still need to work out the dates with Mr. nyccablover to make sure it will fit in his work schedule so please put us down as possibles. Thanks so much for organizing - we look forward to meeting everyone.

Already have some great wines in my mind for the pour to impress!!

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/12/2018 10:50:57 AM   
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Alrighty then - let's see if I can attend. Our usual Spring Training pilgrimage is shorter than normal this year (but I still have time for a Central Florida off-line) so I might have the vacation time to make this. Gotta see if the wife can swing the time off also.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/12/2018 2:37:41 PM   
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We have not missed one yet.
But put us as probable. The issue is we will be building a house this year (and probably selling one). It may be finished around this time of year.


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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/12/2018 2:46:54 PM   
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Geographic info for people who don't know Charleston

The original Charleston (1670 I think) occupies a peninsula, the tip of which is the point where the Ashley and Cooper Rivers meet to form the Atlantic Ocean (old carriage tour joke). The metro area is growing at a frightening pace.

North Charleston is a city (and a crime zone) all to itself. The airport is technically in North Chuck, but presents no problems except for the fact that it is not sufficient for a growing city.
As you drive down I-26, the Ashley River and the area known as West Ashley will be on your right. Folly, Kiawah, and Seabrook are the beaches on that side of town.
When you reach the peninsula, the beautiful Ravenel Bridge takes you to East Cooper/Mt Pleasant (God's country). Sullivan's Island and Isle of Palms are our beaches.

There is no longer an offseason in the Chas area (too much hype from travels mags and foodie sites) so expect some crowds. Late Sept will still be beach weather; there are frequent conventions/trade shows/restaurant weeks/arts festivals... Charleston might have the highest concentration of GREAT restaurants per capita of any city in the country. Multiple Chas chefs are nominated for Beard Awards every year. Charleston harbor provides ample boating opportunities. You can take a cruise to Fort Sumter, site of the onset of the War of Northern Aggression in 1861 (again with the carriage tour jokes).
The peninsula is quite walkable, although it is sometimes still hot and humid in late Sept. Feel free to ping me with questions about good locations for lodging. Our place is about 3 miles from IOP in case you are a beach bum.
I have reserved our clubhouse for Friday and Saturday, just in case. It has a kitchen(ish), plenty of space for us, and has a pool (I can't reserve the pool).
Here are a few important items to put on your list.
BYOS (stems)
You'll want ice packs for your Wine Check probably.
It looks like we will have more than 12 people attending (maybe many more).
Plan to bring 2x bottles/Mags or start talking to people about tag teaming.
This event is a SPECIAL OCCASION (just like today, tomorrow...) Bring the good stuff!


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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/12/2018 4:55:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: S1

Fort Sumter, site of the onset of the War of Northern Aggression in 1861


Uh oh - being a carpetbagging Yankee, I might have to skip this event now.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/15/2018 2:28:58 PM   
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Hi S1,

Changing my possible status to definitely attending - really looking forward to it. It will be me and my husband Paul. We would love to attend the Burgundy dinner on Thursday if there is an opening, but understand that you are already over the limit. We will definitely be sourcing so can't declare the wines yet.

Thanks!

Maire (nyccablover)

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/16/2018 2:32:47 PM   
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bump for OP update with dinner(s) info + some declared wines.

btw, Circa 1886 is the same ownership as Kings Courtyard Inn (where we held the other 3 events), Rutledge House, Fulton Lane Inn, and Wentworth Mansion.
If people are looking for lodging, I'll shill for those three since they have been so good to us in the past.
https://www.charminginns.com/



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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/17/2018 3:39:44 AM   
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Reserved the Kings Courtyard Inn for 3 nights...Thanks for the recommendation.

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RE: Charleston Offlineorama IV, 27-29 (30?) September, ... - 1/17/2018 6:17:13 AM   
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Just booked Kings Courtyard for 3 nights as well.

Looks like a convenient spot downtown and an easy walk to the restaurant.

Thanks for the recommendation.

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