Tasting Notes for WetRock

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Red
3/23/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Same as my last note. If you're looking for a Saumur noir I'd say skip this. If you are looking for a wine that displays lots of fruit without the trappings of new oak or tons of richness this is a nice option. Around the edges there are hints of C Franc herbs but you have to squint. Very inky. Glass staining. It doesn't really feel super extracted or fleshy so maybe it's lots of cold soak. I'd guess this were raised in concrete or stainless. OK for what it is but why do this to Cab Franc? It works better with Rhone varieties.
Red
3/21/2020 - WetRock wrote:
So rich for a Carignan. Big pomegranate expression. Like a spiked bottle of POM. Except it's richer and dense than that. And actually this could use a bit more acidity which is rare with this grape. This has a lot of the stuffing of the '16 but not really the structure. I think this is a shorter term drinker compared to that vintage. But still a terrific vintage of this wine.
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Red
3/20/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Plenty of stem presence here. Not overwhelming but strong. Like more interesting Pinots this seems to come and go with different things taking the mic. Sometimes riper baked fruits. Sometimes sweeter fresh fruits. Sometimes stemmy greeness. Sometimes earth and iron. Lighter bodied but with substantial fruit. Solid acidity. This seems open right now. Might be best with some more integration. I can see this for medium term cellaring. But it's not required.
Red
3/15/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Still so dense. In feel and look. Lovely cool mountain Cab character. If anything this still showed a bit asleep but I doubt it. I say that because it didn't show much complexity. I doubt it needs much more time to find itself though if you have well stored bottles I wouldn't be in a rush. Only slightly faded on night two. These sorts of bottles take me away. Good stuff.
Red
3/14/2020 - WetRock wrote:
There is a strong dollop of new wood on this bottling. I didn't notice it initially but it really showed up a night or two later where it dominated the nose. The first night though I liked the overall expression. Forward but not overtly so. Decent complexity. A nicely exuberant Zin. There is plenty of fruit here so laying this down to see if the wood integrates any is not a real gamble. But will it or will it poke out stronger later?
Red
3/12/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Classic mountain cab profile being cooler and darker rather than warmer and redder. Much more open and in business than I would have expected. Also not as dense or tannic. I don't think this will be a wow vintage down the road but considering the price you can find it for it's really good. I'm giving my remaining bottles at least another six years but I prefer my cabs in secondary phases. I'm just not going to mark this one as something that's going to go for decades. I think it's a medium term wine. Still blows doors off most any other cab from CA in the price range.
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White - Sparkling
3/17/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Lovely nose. Gets more subtle and complex after a night open. Shows some chalk and mineral notes among the light lemon and bread. The palate is straight pure Blanc de Blanc. Very classic. Some where under the dosage. Nothing a couple more years of rest won't solve. Good length. Expressive without being in your face. Tasty and approachable. A lovely expression of Chardonnay. Good stuff.
Red
3/6/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This opened up nice and complex like I've come to expect from this bottling. But it sort of shut down some. By the second night it wasn't very interesting at all. I saved a corner of the bottle inadvertently for a few days. That bit showed a lot of new oak after being open four days. So this wine is all over the place right now. Even with that I doubt it's as good as some previous vintages have been. But I will leave this alone for at least another year or two before trying it again.
Red
2017 Wilde Farm Wines Heritage Bedrock Vineyard Sonoma Valley Zinfandel Blend, Zinfandel (view label images)
3/10/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Initially the fruit is fat and alive. Like barely fermented crushed berries. Medium bodied and fleshy. On night two it settles a bit with notes of pepper and minerals coming about. The fruit backs down into a dark fruited enhanced Zin. Some tannin. Rich fruit. I think this needs to integrate a bit more but there is no harm serving now. Forwardly tasty.
Red
2017 Ridge Wild Cattle Creek Dry Creek Valley Zinfandel Blend, Zinfandel (view label images)
3/2/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This is just a so-so effort for Ridge. I immediately noticed how little extraction this showed. It's already translucent. So of course not very fleshy feeling for a young Zin. Interesting to read that they co-fermented the Petit Sirah and Carignan even if only 5 and 10% respectively. A lot more tannin that you would expect for so little PS but that is likely explained by all the wood I detected. Not really overt new wood but just straight wood grain. It actually showed more on the following nights. Pretty sure the only way that strong tannin got there with a light body and a wee bit of PS is from the wood. And it's not integrated at this point. A few more years might let that happen but I'm not sure the concentration is here to suck up all that wood. It will certainly last long enough to experiment with. I'm hoping they will dial that back in future vintages. This source seems like it could be somewhat unique in the Zin lineup.
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White
3/4/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Gotta agree with Frank on this one. Not much going on here. It could be closed I guess but it doesn't necessarily come off that way. Just very restrained. I'm not sure I've had any Chard from this vineyard that I've taken notice of so it could be terroir. This is a decent acidic white if you need one for dinner and don't want to think about it. It's not much more. Nothing here makes you take notice.
Red
2/29/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This is a wine of light touches. Almost too light but not quite. Sweet strawberry and touches of piney stems on the nose. More of the same on the palate. But the build is really light here. Just enough expression and body to keep you coming back for more. It's quite a surprising wine actually. I've had some light bodied Pinots from California that were only that and nothing more. Nothing interesting about them. This one has something going on. The generous acidity, tannin and lower alcohol likely help. Now there isn't a ton going on here but this is a terrific wine for those who tire of bigger, tart, higher alc Pinots. Nicely priced as well.
White
2/27/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Honeysuckle and beeswax nose. The palate doesn't really give up much. Some neutral wood seems evident on night two but the fruit is closed. Feels rich enough to open into something more. My track record here is limited. It's pleasant. I'd let it chill for a bit longer.
Red
2/25/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Strongly earthy nose. Strawberry, boysenberry. Plenty of acidity. Touches of orange. This is maybe a little more dark fruited than a typical OV but it's otherwise on point. This bounced around a bit. Sometimes tart. Sometimes more reserved and dark. There is a chance this wants to get a bit better. It's drinking pretty nice right now but I wouldn't worry if you wanted let this one get to a decade. It's cruising right along and that earthy quality is still strong.
Red
2/21/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Richer than my last go but not real expressive. Still very Zinny. Holding but not improving maybe.
White - Sparkling
2/22/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Fresh focused stone fruits. Noticeably low dose but carries it just fine. Solid.
Red
1/29/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This showed a lot more oak than I remember it giving up. There is plenty of fruit to match though. This drinks a lot like middle range Napa Cabs where they don't push the ripeness and extraction but still want to please folks with some comfort. The fruit is still fairly interesting and shows good density. I think I'd like to try this fruit from a good year where they are not using it to rinse of the new wood for the other wines. It's good in the way I described above and should age medium term no sweat. It could get a bit better if that oaks integrates into seasoning. Or maybe you're just in the mood now for some comfort.
Red
2/14/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Only a bit of pyrazine but still unmistakably from the Loire. Broad tannin. Medium bodied and in density which surprises me a bit given the pedigree. Clearly some restraint behind the wine making which is a plus. They didn't go thinner for the sake of of virtue signaling but did seem to let the fruit do it's thing. Plenty of classic Cab Franc character though maybe redder than purple in primary fruit. The one big draw back was that the acid was lacking. It left the finish wanting even with the powerful tannin. I'd look at this as a medium term wine given the fruit doesn't seem like it's stout enough for long term cellaring. A good wine that seems to be a bit below it's price point and pedigree in build. I do not have prior experience with this bottling but I'm willing to bet this was not the best vintage for them.
Red
2/12/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This was fantastic. Lovely complexity that are unmistakably Cab Franc in nature. Subtle but at the same time expressive. Getting towards light bodied and coming close to really showing it's age. By the notes I'm thinking there is a decent amount of bottle variation with these. The '90 bottling by this producer also offered recently was just ok both times I had it. All that tells me is that it's time to drink these. I don't see any room for improvement and lots of signs that these are a bit of a gamble. This particular bottle was terrific for a night.
Red
2/16/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Very dense and tannic still. Fleshy and somewhat closed-ish on the first night. More interesting on night two when some complexities unfold. The fill wasn't fantastic being just above the shoulder but this seemed the youngest I've had of this wine. This bottle probably wanted more time. still comes off like something from a completely different era. Not sure I could blind this as not being Cab.
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Red
1/24/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Now we're talkin. This is a full step up from the '06. This shows layers and depth to spare. Some nice leathery goodness around the edges. Plenty of acid. Room to grow. Very good.
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White
1/22/2020 - WetRock wrote:
As the last couple notes say this is a bit bracing right now. The acidity a little tart. Strong mineral sense. The fruit feels medium in density so this could certainly open with some more time. Right now it's a mineral show but not a lot else. Have some rich food with it so you won't notice. Or leave it be a couple more years.
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Red
2/6/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This seemed much more open and forward than my previous bottles. For once the SC bottle seems to have needed a bit of time. Richly fruited and broad. Sweet berries. Some depth. Lively now. I enjoyed this bottle a good deal more than my previous two. Very good.
Red
2/10/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This still shows a good amount of oak. The fruit is still forward as well. It's not out of control in a overly modern way. But it's also not very traditional. At the price point it's pretty good. Many Napa wines drink very similar to this and cost a lot more. A night later this had changed a lot, drinking more traditionally or at least more maturely. For folks who like bigger wines this is probably where you need to drink up. It's probably ready to start maturing with the fruit laying down a bit. If you want some secondary action lay off for 5+ years. It's not going anywhere soon. Lots in the tank.
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White - Sparkling
2/8/2020 - WetRock wrote:
I had a strange experience with the effervescence. It popped fine when opened and frothed up strongly when poured. But on the palate the bubbles seemed quite light. Nothing seemed overly advanced about the wine so I don't think it was a poor seal. Dunno.
The wine itself was pretty good. Reminiscent of Bollinger in style. Almost beer like. Some buttery characters and autolytic things all over. This came off more pure as in the BdB character was clear even with the sort of oxidized leesy stuff. Even though it annoys me when people obsess over saving the bubbles in Champagnes, the lack of them here was hard to get past. The wine itself tasted quite good but I couldn't help but think something wasn't slightly off here. I'll still be looking forward to another bottle.
Red
1/31/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Lovely black pepper sense always lingering around this wine. Olive and purple fruits. Medium bodied showing less density than almost any other domestic Syrah without being lean. The plentiful tannin is gentle feeling. A terrific showcase of balance from a grape that almost never achieves it at this level domestically. Even from my favored producers. The fruit is still primary in expression. I think this is a medium term wine in my best guess. But it's also nothing like being closed right now. It needed a little bit of air initially but was consistent over two nights. Good things happening here.
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Red - Sweet/Dessert
1/12/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Drank this over the course of a couple weeks. As good as domestic ruby style Ports comes for me. The first night or two this showed very brooding and dense. Just rich California dark fruit with a sweet and spirity kick. Not over done. Even throughout and not cloying. Strong. After a night or two the fruit relaxed some and a strong humidor sense starting hanging around. I'm guessing from some wood influence. That was kinda nice even if the fruit expression feel a half or whole notch down. So best for certain on the first couple nights. Still very good for a couple weeks after in the fridge. Winter warming goodness.
Red
2010 Ridge Geyserville Sonoma County Zinfandel Blend, Zinfandel (view label images)
2/2/2020 - WetRock wrote:
This was very 'ok'. Showed a strong sense of 'Zin' but it just didn't say much else. Dense and structured. Not really closed. Just there. Stayed that way probably at least an hour. A decent wine but clearly you expect something better here. Maybe a decant would have helped. Mysterious.
Red
2009 Ridge Lytton Springs Dry Creek Valley Zinfandel Blend, Zinfandel (view label images)
1/19/2020 - WetRock wrote:
In a good place now. This needed a good 20-30 minutes to open. Even the wine neophytes noticed the big turn. It's in a sweet spot where the secondaries are adding subtleties while the fruit is still pretty fresh. Still very Zinberry in expression. The tannin and acidity keep it focused. Robust feel still. This could go quite a while but I'd say the next 3-5 years are looking really good. Very good.
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White - Sparkling
1/17/2020 - WetRock wrote:
A very nice mix of more mature and wooded notes with fresher, younger fruit. I believe this is half from a solera going back to 2010 and half fruit from 2014. Something close to that anyway. It's also a 60/40 mix of Pinot and Chard. I liked the range and expression of this wine. Nice balance. Gives me some of those more mature like notes to keep this smoother and inviting. It's also not as hard as it could be given the zero dosage. It's pretty strong all around but I can't help but thinking a low dose of 2-3 g/l would really let this fly. I'll likely buy it again but I hope the makers are not strident in their technique and open to making the best they can.
Red
1/15/2020 - WetRock wrote:
I can see how this disappoints many. It's certainly not up to the level of expression you expect from top end wineries. But this is a good wine. It's actually classic in feel the way the acidity keeps it fresh. I would dare call it a very good food wine. The fruit expression is more reserved giving away to more savory and herby notes. On the palate it's also note all that rich in feel. There is a touch of sourness on the fruit but somehow that doesn't really carry to the finish. There really isn't the concentration for improvement. It's fine to drink now in my estimation but also no rush. A poor value probably not not a bad wine. Just a decent wine.
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Red
2008 Domaine Bento & Chapoutier ex aequo Vinho Regional Lisboa Syrah Blend, Syrah (view label images)
1/10/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Like a fat ripe California Central Coast Syrah. It's what I would have pegged this as if blind for certain. Has that tarry, ripe, dense saucy fat fruit like you expect from many wines of the region. Lots of grip still. But not interesting at all. It's funny how these wines just sort of hold still in expression over time. At least when they are young the fresh fruit is yummy. Once that fades you are left with a wine you hope will mature but likely never will.
Red
1/10/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Like an older school, older world rustic red. This drank something like a mature Chianti. I liked it quite a bit. Not a knock out but a nice balanced classic red wine. Fresh acidity and tannin. Some complexity.
Red - Fortified
1/10/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Decanted about seven hours prior to consumption. Shows some spirit on the nose. Dusty cherry. Some heat and mustiness. Dark fruited palate with more cherry. Fresh feel but somewhat reserved. Bit of heat. This showed 'ok'. You want more from the bottle given the producer of course. Seems this is a vintage with some controversy or disappointment. Given the pedigree and current price it's a disappointment. Otherwise a decent Port.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): No notes taken. I was quite intrigued with this. The couple of still wines I've had from Champagne previously I can remember not enjoying at all. This is quite good. Very old world but also showing plenty of fruit density. This could be a touch better in a couple years. Definitely leans into the more earth, savory expressions of Pinot. Very cool bottle.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Decanted about 6 hours prior to tasting. All these 08's showed tons of young fruit still, especially in comparison to the much less extracted, much younger wines in front of them. A bit roasty on the nose but otherwise not giving up much. Fleshy palate. Dense, dark berry fruits. Solid grip. This one probably showed the least of the three which is saying something. And it saw six hours of air. Go figure.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. All these 08's showed tons of young fruit still, especially in comparison to the much less extracted, much younger wines in front of them. Complex, rocky nose. Tight and very grippy on the palate. So very dense still. Almost modern showing the most ripeness of the three. But this one saw little air. Again, don't rush to open this.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Decanted about 6 hours prior to tasting. All these 08's showed tons of young fruit still, especially in comparison to the much less extracted, much younger wines in front of them. Floral, subtle sexy nose. Fleshy still. juicy yet showing minerals. Grippy. This one probably showed the best of the three. Seems like there is something a touch more special in here. Giving the showing even after plenty of air you've got plenty of time to find out. Could be playing on another level.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): This also seemed grapey in comparison to the younger wines we drank in front of it. Stemmy asparagus notes. Juicy, bright and clean palate. Quite even feeling with a light grip. Quite different than the Alpine in nearly every way. And much more interesting to drink in the moment. Could be an air thing though.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Still quite grapey on the nose. This also showed a strong celery stems note. Again the Alpine was richer on the palate. This one showed some baking spice and wood notes. It also seemed simpler and a touch sharp. Almost sullen. This one also probably could have used quite a bit of air I'm guessing. Kind of brooding and really allowed the Horseshoe to steal it's thunder. But I wouldn't be worried. It seems like there is a good wine here that's just sort of sulking in how we woke it
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Darker in color than the 2015's. Earthy nose being somewhat reserved. Shows some apple skin. Tighter palate than the Horseshoe. More monolithic and round. Good grip. Touch of sort of barrel oxidation sort of note as in this is showing some age already even though it comes off as quite tight. Tough to read this one. This one also didn't see a lot of air if memory serves. The Horseshoe was more interesting this round.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Darker in color than the 2015's. Spicy nose showing stemmy celery notes. Compelling and juicy. light grip behind some showing acidity. touch of a bite. Needs to chill. Seems like it's a bit awkward. I believe this also saw minimal air so maybe that would have helped some. I still found it intriguing. No rush here.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Shows little in the way of extraction in terms of color. Young full fruited Pinot notes with touches of herby stems. Much richer and weightier on the palate than the Horseshoe. Bigger bodied but also much stronger tannin. This comes off like a wine with a lot of potential. This also saw very little air upon our tasting it which I think factors into it feeling a touch round. I'd bet on a strong future for this one. The fruit density was on display here where it was difficult to locate in the Horseshoe. This made the stem inclusion come off as spice rather then the whole show.
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Red
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Light bodied to look at, not showing much extraction. Nose shows some forest floor earth and celery. Young ripe Pinot fruits. Shows pretty tight on the palate. Crisper with better acids than the bottle next to it. Lots of bitter fruit skin notes with light tannin. This seemed a bit overwhelmed by the stems. Maybe the fruit will unfurl and step up but my experience with Cali Pinot and strong stem inclusion is not that positive. The fruit really needs to show some concentration to suck that up. I feel like they purposely dialed back from letter the fruit be the show in the more recent wines. On the plus side, this saw just about no air.
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White
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Rich nose of lemon oil. Rich and complex palate. Compelling but not even right now. This also needs some time to integrate to me. I've found a strong depth of fruit in my previous experience with Alpine Chards so I defaulted my guess that way with this. That concentration of fruit makes me more bullish on aging this one versus the Horseshoe. This excited me a good deal more also. I wasn't convinced the acidity was really up there to keep this on an even keel but it also felt a touch clumsy in a young way. Very tasty though. Check back in 2-3 years. Maybe +5 for best results.
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White
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bagged but knew all but which vineyard was in which bag. Nose shows immediate honeysuckle then some sulfury wood and citrus. Light bodied and crisp. Especially in comparison to the wine next to it. Touch of a grip. The concentration level seems lower than the Alpine. Being blind that concentration made me default my guess to Horseshoe since I have little experience with this vineyard's Chards. I'd like to try this again after the oak has some time to integrate. It's a light touch and expresses more in the vein of how you smell it in a Burgundy. But I'm not certain I'd want to got longer than 10 years on this either. I found the Alpine more compelling if less classic. This was solid to good.
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Rosé - Sparkling
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Bollinger rarely fails to let me down. Even for a vintage where only a certain subset of houses made vintage wine Bollinger still stepped up strongly. This was more elegant than Bollinger often is. Very even across the palate. Just pretty. The color was certainly different coming off as a lighter salmon shade reminiscent of an orange wine. Goes down way too easy.
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White - Sparkling
1/11/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Rhys Alpine/Horseshoe Tasting at Frank's (Frank Murray's Casa): Very strong white grape aromas. Sweet flavored fruits on the palate. Not much in the way of doughy, citrus or autolytic characters. Much more in the vein of a lighter sparkling wine than something like a Champagne. Sort of big round fruit expression versus the smooth regalness of higher end bubbles. We ended up with a vintage Bollinger on the table next to this which really brought the differences between a classic Champagne and this wine into focus. A nice, decent sparkling wine but nothing more. The low dose is remarkable though given the sweetness of flavor. As a low dose skeptic I think the decision to hold back helped keep this wine from being a caricature and let the fresh fruit show itself off.
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White
1/6/2020 - WetRock wrote:
Quite reduced upon opening. That eventually fades. By night two it's gone. Nose of citronella. Lemon oil flavors. There's a salty sort of quality at the finish. Plenty of acid. Fresh and not quite as dense as some Savagnins I've had. This is made with topping up of the foudre rather than the traditional oxidative Jura style. And it's without those sherry like notes. This is impressive for it's acidic yet substantial build. This should age nicely over the medium term I would think. Good now but I would give it some air due to the reduced notes I got. Very nice.
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White - Sparkling
12/24/2019 - WetRock wrote:
Lightly butter toast, citrus, white flowers. A very nice depth of fruit on the palate while feeling light. Chalky and mineral. Hints of mushroom. Strong minerality. This is what a no dose wine should be. This is how you get away with no dose. You got to have a wine that has so much to show that dose is unnecessary. This is very good. A terrific expression of raw blanc de blancs.
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