5/12/24, 3:25 PM - A stunning wine for me. My understanding is that the moelleux wines did not suffer from oxidation issues.
4/28/24, 9:55 AM - I do not buy much chasselas, as my Alsatian introduction showed flabby wines. But Gonon has nice cut and now the only chasselas i buy. I enjoy it when I look for an unassuming wine that still has character and fits the culinary bill. Mark
3/25/24, 11:30 AM - Hi! In the past, mint was a prominent signature of the wine. perhaps the wine has changed since Mssr. Vatan's daughter took over ~ 15 years ago (winemaker and climate effects). And I wonder if your comments on texture reflect higher alcohol levels now?
12/31/23, 9:31 PM - perhaps a bad bottle and/or rich/fruit forward wines are more to your preference. I would never buy a Leroy wine period full stop even at prices I could get them for in 1991. We don't enjoy the style and our limited funds and livers are better spent elsewhere. 1990 DRC la Tâche suffers greatly in comparison to 1993 Rousseau Chambertin-Clos de Bèze as it's not as complex and the fruit is fading (tasted 2 times in last 3 years) and the Rousseau is still brilliant (tasted 4 months ago). DRC la Tâche is quite a good wine, simply to multiple Burgundy fans in our neck of the woods we would always ask for more Rousseau. I think it's a preference thing, not that one domaine is better than another. At least I know what to serve you at our house!!
12/16/23, 5:33 PM - I also quite enjoy Boudignon's wines, although I have not sprung for the Hutte yet. But my understanding is that he doesn't use new wood, and I don't think of new wood when I have had this wine. Perhaps he has recently changed his barrel practices.... thank you for your note!
11/29/23, 11:00 PM - had only one bottle and we drank it tonight. fruit not really great and grainy / bitter. thin for fruit depth. disappointing. would not wish to try from any vintage from this producer.
11/30/23, 1:51 PM - yes, i know! but i don't like to gamble on relatively costly wines when really good less expensive wines abound. the cost was ~$60 here. that's why i stopped buying Ganevat red wines. good wines but when half of the wines are shot that good bottle becomes $120..... i do very much appreciate your notes by the way.
11/19/23, 8:15 AM - it's all about expectations. imbibed 1 week ago and we thought it was a brilliant wine. difficult to achieve a more exquisitely balanced wine (depth of flavors and complexities and all that and more). one of the few wines we thought one can drink unaccompanied by food or nibbles. we agree that it is not a wine to have with dessert per se as it is not a classic dessert wine, although it would go well with an almond flour pear tart for example. but to write it off as an apértif misses the beauty of this wine (save this spot for anonymous wines like champagne). a wine for contemplation!
11/11/23, 4:11 PM - i have not had this wine yet, but surprised by your noticing the oak component since they use large untoasted oak barrels. you feel that the oak is overpowering or more that you see it in the background and that you were surprised that it was enough to notice?
11/11/23, 5:37 PM - thank you!
10/26/23, 9:08 AM - you might just have had a bad bottle. this cuvée is aged in old oak foudres, so tasting oak would be unusual, let alone lacking freshness and fruit in a vintage remarkable for those attributes. La Griffe du Marquis is the only barrique aged wine from this domaine. you should try another bottle from Mssr. Coudert....
10/26/23, 1:56 PM - another good reason not to buy at auctions, unless forced to if you live in accessibility challenged areas. i admit to being a big fan of Coudert and was fortunate to visit him in late 2010. enjoy your next one!
10/3/23, 10:29 AM - I am led to believe this is the Jouan style. More emphasis on beauty than power... it also might be a vintage reflection. I have not tasted it yet.... but your note is definitely a good one and I look forward to drinking mine and guided by your observations.
10/1/23, 11:06 AM - brilliant note! Thank you...
9/21/23, 10:24 AM - you actually did rate it. good stuff. i only bought 5...
9/11/23, 8:02 PM - yes, the thought back then was that Nuit St. Georges was more complete (and "better" if you will) in 2006 than in 2005, and a shining star for Burgundy in 2006. i can't recall how producer specific this was in general, but i did not shy away from purchasing multiple vineyard offerings from Chevillon. and happy i did....
8/24/23, 1:09 PM - i wish tasting notes would all be authored as beautifully as you did. thank you! and i wish not to neglect mentioning that Chevillon wines are masterful from top to toppest.
8/5/23, 11:46 AM - When is Barthod not fantastic! There is a reason why she always shows the Veroilles last.... it doesn't fit into the Chambolle slot even accounting for the 2 different soils that account for the prototypes of Bonnes Mares vs Musigny.
7/3/23, 7:28 PM - i just sold mine. i thought it was quite flabby.
7/4/23, 12:26 PM - agree. perhaps 2018 is simply not a good vintage for them. best, M
7/3/23, 7:39 PM - not sure what you mean by "2005 was is a vintage I’ve really felt is coming into its own for Volnay". Volnay has always been great. what you describe is why Voillot is always great! Voillot adapts to the vintage. my limited experience with 2005 is that it is a vintage that favors power, which is not what a Voillot wine emphasizes. that they made such a nice wine per your description is a testament to their superb wine making talents!!
6/28/23, 7:35 PM - i thought the son had taken over already?
10/12/20, 7:03 PM - still really great. what a wonderful winemaker but no one took over.
6/28/23, 7:29 PM - and still great....
2/28/23, 8:34 PM - I'm not super experienced like yourself or anyone in the wine business but I often think the 2001 Christoffel collection is the greatest riesling collection ever (and perhaps the greatest period). thank you for your review...
1/4/23, 6:29 PM - still pretty dang good...
12/4/22, 1:07 PM - tricky bottling at Pepe in the past. from https://portovino.com/producers/emidio-pepe/ : "* There is an Italian bottling with the exact same front label. These are not from the pergola trained vines, costs less, and less complex.* There is no Riserva labeled wine, some websites list the wine to that effect.". and Levi Dalton wrote :"It is worth keeping in mind that the Europe release is actually a different wine. In Europe they sell the young vines bottling, which they release at a younger age from the winery and at a lower price. In the United States the bottling is older vines, and basically the Riserva. This is true of the red as well."thus 2 bottlings of quite different wines but the label is the same. the highly acclaimed version was > $100-120. I bought 2013 from Jamie Wolfe of Chambers Street wine fame for $70. He was not sure which version it was, and I suspect it was the lesser Italian / European bottling (100% of the good bottling was exported to USA and carries the moniker of the American bottling). I have not tasted this $70 version yet. I seem to recall he brought this in, and was not thru the usual importer.but friends and I are quite enamored of the "American bottling" my understanding is that vintages soon after 2013 clarify on the label which bottling it is
12/4/22, 7:28 PM - perhaps if we connect sometime in the future i can open an older one that i know is the "revered" version. we live in Yountville
12/5/22, 6:06 PM - good. i'm old so i don't know what a ping is and i hope it doesn't hurt. but i guess it's a phone thing....
11/16/22, 6:59 PM - hi. our daughter lives in the Twin Cities and was literally weaned on German prädikat wines. Do you have a recommendation for wonderful Thai or Indian food? we have been to Hai Hai (Vietnamese) and Lat 14.
6/18/22, 4:35 PM - i apologize if i am telling you what you already know, but by this time i believe Gerard had handed over the reins to his son. a lot of people i know note a stylistic change and these are unlike the wines of Chave 1970-1995. i greatly prefer the earlier wines.
5/10/22, 8:54 AM - Hi Claude, You came to our house in Yountville many moons ago for a tasting of 1990 German rieslings. David Schildknecht was also in attendance. He is trying to contact you. david@davidschildknecht.com. i surmise it is about the book he helped birth (Mosel Wein led by Lars Carlberg, a reprint of a book published in the 1800s), hope all is well, Mark
4/11/22, 7:36 PM - not too surprised. works well with cassoulet. cuts thru the fat!
2/5/22, 10:26 AM - do you think Vatan has changed since Anne assumed the reins? I am still working on wines from prior to 2007 but notes from people seem to suggest a change in the wines. fro me, mint has been a tell tale signature (among other flavors) but grassiness has always been a small signature if at all.
2/4/22, 10:54 PM - around $100 on release. regardless, incumbent on a winery to look for quality control for their corks. Huet 1989 wines, a spectacular year, often ruined by cork issues.
2/5/22, 10:22 AM - "In my market it was about 400 on release. Regardless, every bottle of the original 6 has either been badly corked or flawed in some way."sorry for such a bad experience! but this is a "what's wrong with this picture" tableau. the odds of all 6 bottles marred for different reasons is statistically tough to accomplish. cooked? what wine store did you buy these at? you should never buy lottery tickets. the few 2001 Giacosa I have opened have been fine.
1/27/22, 10:43 AM - Rocche vineyard is not an "in your face" power wine. you actually got it perfect. now it is just a question how you value that vineyard. the power, if you will, is in the beautiful clarity of the fruit, not the structure.
1/29/22, 10:03 AM - your note says it is ready to drink. it will change with time but it may be best for your palate now. it will not become more "powerful". if you like more tertiary changes (and don't mind the loss of fruit), then of course hold the other bottles. that said, i bought bottles on release and have not touched them yet and i don't think waiting another 5-10 years will be deleterious. I am of the school that a wine doesn't get better with time as much as it gets different. your "drinking window" differs from others because of what you look for in an aged wine. But from reading your note, I would not think twice about our opening a bottle for dinner. 2 nights ago we had the 1996 Giacosa Falletto white label and it was great but still not totally resolved tannins etc. but not surprising given this vineyard and vintage. it is all about what you want the wine to do and that is personal. as an aside, i can't tell you how many times traditional Piedmont winemakers have told me they drink their Barolo at 10 years old! Enjoy and don't worry about hitting the perfect timing...
1/26/22, 7:24 PM - i always decant this old of a wine for the sediment.
1/25/22, 10:16 AM - 2005 drinking superbly at present
12/10/21, 11:38 AM - no mint?
12/21/21, 12:07 PM - thought about it a bit more. i have been buying Vatan since the mid 90's, thanks to David Schildknecht telling me I should try this producer despite my despise for sauvignon blanc (the problem of drinking California SB in the 90s!). I am still aging the vast majority of what I have of Vatan from post 2010. I wonder if global warming and Anne Vatan taking over in 2008? have changed the profile. So not too surprised as it is a subtle mint flavor. . regardless, Vatan remains sui generis.best of the holidays to you...
12/19/21, 11:43 AM - earlier vintages had a trademark mint component. perhaps global warming and Anne Vatan have led to changes. i am more familiar with earlier vintages
12/10/21, 11:37 AM - 2015 is a ripe year. it depends on what you are looking for as well. i have far more german riesling than chenin, and look to the raciness of riesling as much as you do. that said, and given my preference for raciness over power, 2015 Vouvray and 2015 German riesling are not my favorite years. 2014 Pinon Vouvray is phenomenal. And if you compare Vouvray to Mosel, you might never win. different wines that fit different foods. one can also easily say riesling has odd flavor notes (petrol anyone?) that are best balanced with the right food.
12/11/21, 11:01 AM - would add that some folks think Huet is not as stellar as in the past. that is a bit of a controversial statement. 2002 is a truly heroic year for the Huet Bourg demi-sec, but the sec and demi-sec Huet 2002 wines are often marred by premature oxidation (noted within a few years after release). but if you find a good one, my gosh it is beautiful. i think you would like it as the balance is what kills you, similar to the wonderful balance achieved in a great Mosel vintage like 2001. also look for Foreau / Pinon / Chidaine just to name a few... enjoy!
11/27/21, 7:21 PM - one of my favorite tastings was this vintage out of barrel. suffice it to say, slow oxygenation does not do anything for a wine
10/30/21, 4:43 PM - sorry to hear of this poor experience. we had the 2005 Taillepieds and the 2005 Caillerets this week and honestly they were really really good. I am not a big fan of 2005 as they are quite burly for my tastes, but perhaps time will bring them around and be magnificent like many predicted. But these 2 wines were super good and not so burly, clearly my favorites from 2005 so far. Not hard at all, and I felt the d'Angerville imprint.Interestingly I visited Spurrier's shop in 1984 or so, and brought back a Rousseau Mazi that sent me spiraling down the Burgundy rabbit hole.
10/31/21, 6:04 PM - i really get your wonderful descriptor "heroic" as compared with my burly. i can see why people can love them. for my tastes, 2005 is heroic but perhaps too strong an ego. i tend towards the 1993, 2010, 2016, and yes, even the 1996 (heavens have mercy). thank you very much for your well spoken viewpoint. cheers!
10/15/21, 11:55 AM - best is yet to come. 2006 was a great year in NSG
9/25/21, 7:43 PM - 2001 JJ Christoffel is one of the best, if not the best, collections of Mosel wines ever. period. and I am a Prüm fanboy. say hi to Brad for me. will be in Saint Paul first week of October for the MIAC golf championship.
6/9/21, 12:49 PM - i can't find the info easily, but Rosenthal (importer) says he does not use new oak at all for the 2017 versions, although Josh Raynolds (Vinous) mentions 10% for the 2017. I wonder if Gilles made an about face over the years...
12/24/20, 10:01 AM - hi. simple and sweet are my concerns about Fourrier in general. lovely out of cask and i can see terroir shining thru each individual wine*, but not as exciting at home because of a sameness to all the wines. it is a style that some folks love and i would not think less of him or her. my comment is not a knock on his wines being very well made. do you think the sweetness dissipates over time and hence making it a more fascinating wine?best, Mark*my last visit was trying the 2009 vintage, and this was the first time they all had a sameness to them and terroir was not a defining characteristic.I also am not well versed enough to know if his style has shifted as well.
12/25/20, 11:19 AM - nice to hear! I live in Yountville and I answer to Mark Anisman. I bought sparingly at Digg but I am beyond buying much wine anymore. Cut my teeth at Ashbury Market with Wilfred Wong. Rusty Albert at Wine Impressions is a good friend. The Riesling Study folks may convene at our house once we and the economy have had a shot in the arm.bestest, Mark
10/18/20, 2:24 PM - Hi, odd. mye also noted oak. i don't think they use any new oak at all (let alone any oak barrels less than 5-10 years old) and Weygandt implies that Anne has not made significant élevage changes since taking over with the 2008 vintage. I have not tasted the 2017 yet, but wines from 2012 and back have never had overt oakiness. weygandt's website : "vinifying according only to the traditional (actually ancient) methods... Vinification in old tank; one racking, and then bottling with no fining or filtration when the conditions are perfect in nature." maybe the website is out of date. Anne did marry a Foucault, so possibly he influenced a decision to ramp up the oak. did you get the wine thru weygandt distribution? Vatan is indeed singular...best, Mark
10/19/20, 9:56 AM - so your note is more of a textural response than taste one. that might make sense given that Vatan has been a late picker, sometimes to the wine's detriment, and the roundness and dryness may reflect higher brix and therefore higher alcohol attained. i don't track vintages like i have done in the past, and i don't know how warm the 2017 vintage was. a pineapple note always make me think of a warm vintage in german wines. but i have never tasted that in a Vatan wine. that's why i wondered about the provenance as well and whether it could be fake the warm vintage 2009 is a good example in my book of a practice gone bad as it is an ungainly >15% alcohol. i drank one and sold the rest quickly. interestingly Edmond thought the 2009 was one of his best ever results.
12/20/20, 5:26 PM - hijust wanted to mention i referenced you in my wine berserkers note. i mean it as a compliment! Friedrich, she of Loire writing fame, also sees oak in the Vatan wines!! you are in good company and i am outside looking in!!!
10/4/20, 10:20 AM - i have often read that 2006 in NSG is a very good vintage, in fact better than 2005
10/4/20, 8:52 PM - too bad for me. cailles is my favorite chevillon vineyard
9/19/20, 7:19 PM - Vatan is great, but i do not think they use any new oak. but last one i had was a 2007 this year, so perhaps they have changed élevage.
9/23/20, 6:36 PM - i just do not think they use oak barrels new enough to impart oaky flavors. Edmond's last vintage in full command was 2007, but he supposedly has been in the loop since his daughter Anne took over. her husband is related to clos rougeard (a foucault) so maybe his influence has her using new oak now. probably jon gilman's journal would tell us. i don't subscribe to any wine journals.anyway, enjoy!
8/12/20, 8:09 PM - not too old. drank my last bottle today. still fabulous. a wine that felt comfortable with itself (whatever that means)
7/9/20, 10:56 PM - from the Bowler website and Mssr Coudert told me the same during my visit :"Being on the border of the Moulin-à-Vent cru, the core of Roilette’s Fleurie terroir is atypical of Fleurie, rich in clay and the mineral manganese instead of being all granite; the wines are thus more structured than many Fleurie wines. " a favorite of ours
7/3/20, 12:17 PM - i have had the pleasure of sampling of a (at least) 25 year old Cappelano chinato complements of Jamie Wolfe. I believe it has mellowed and improved dramatically, assuming you enjoy age on your drinks. both are fine but i much rather would drink the older version, especially as a digestif.
11/28/16, 7:28 PM - some folks feel 2006 in nuits st Georges is a better vintage than 2005 etc etc
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