9/4/21, 11:44 PM - Had another bottle of this yesterday and unfortunately the experience matched yours, happy712. As the previous two I had were gorgeous, I’d say it’s some unfortunate bottle variation (or the wine wasn’t properly stored, as I bought this last one on a different shop). If you have more, I’d take my chances and try another one.
8/4/21, 2:02 PM - Ahah - Mark, is there a wine in this world you don’t own?! :-P Honestly, I’m amazed!
6/21/21, 9:31 AM - This vintage of DC is 13.5%, which is definitely low for the vintage. Sad to hear the alcohol is so prominent.
6/21/21, 10:06 AM - It’s actually 13.8% and pH 3,68 (source JMQ tasting note)
7/7/20, 1:42 PM - @srh glad to hear that! On my side, it’s been a big disappointment tonight, as I really liked the 2010 I had a couple years back. Alcohol was lower, and the wine was a lot more fun taste. Lots of layers backed by a good acidity (which I’m somewhat lacking here to balance the heat - to my taste, the fruit is just too stewed). That said, I’m sure there are fun of this style, but I’m not one ;-)
6/16/21, 11:30 PM - @srh such a coincidence that your message lands the day after I tasted a Paleo 2015! And it was a stunning experience. Interestingly, the 2015 has “only” 14%, but I’m wondering if the experience I had with the 2013 was a result of the vintage or a bottle that wasn’t properly stored. I guess I’ll never know :-)
6/18/21, 12:01 AM - Indeed! Have you had a chance to crack open one of yours? Would be curious to hear what was your experience :-)
6/20/21, 9:52 AM - That really sucks. Hang in there my friend, and wish you'll be back sipping fine wine soon.
3/1/21, 10:54 AM - Hey Mark, what you say makes sense. This was my first bottle of 2010, and while it was certainly good, it felt to me there was a ton of unexpressed potential. One way or another, waiting a few more years won’t hurt :)
3/1/21, 10:59 AM - @Portland Definitely possible. I didn’t have a baseline to compare against so this was just a subjective feeling.
3/1/21, 10:57 AM - Same here. LP’s style is always a hit for me. Must keep our hands away! Ahaha
2/14/21, 9:33 AM - Hey @sunnylea57, thanks for your comment. This was my last bottle, so I won't likely be having a chance to check back in the future. Though, it's hard to believe that this will get better with time, as it's lacking substance. But I certainly wish to be proven wrong and that the many who decide to hold on it will be highly rewarded down the line ;-) Have a great w/e!
2/14/21, 12:59 PM - Even though I haven’t had a chance to taste it recently, 2008 was a much stronger vintage in my opinion. And the 2011 is absolutely brilliant, and punches much higher than any other vintage I had, 2007 and 2008 included.
9/5/20, 1:58 AM - Thanks a lot @Bathtub58 for your comment. Too bad I haven’t had a chance to try some old vintage!
4/26/20, 3:23 AM - Fantastic tasting note. Thanks for taking the time to share!
4/20/20, 1:53 PM - I have a pretty bad track record for corked Saffredi bottles, so I’m both glad and sorry to hear I’m not the only one. I fully agree with you that 2013 is better than 2010, and probably also than 2011, but my preference for the best vintage since 2010 still goes for the 2012, which I find amazingly profound, complex, and fresh. Haven’t tried the 2016 yet, but I’m glad I’ve got some in the cellar ;-) Cheers!
4/23/20, 1:04 PM - Ahah, really looking forward to hearing your thoughts!
4/19/20, 10:28 PM - Hey Dave (@oldwines), thanks a bunch for taking the time of sharing your thoughts. You are correct that I haven’t decanted, but I left half of it for tonight so I will see. However, my impression was that it felt a lot older than it was: no fruit, no tannic wall, just a bottle in its decline. Hence, I don’t expect it to be better tonight, but I’d love to be surprised!Unfortunately, I don’t have a second bottle, as I just bought one to asses if I liked this producer (for me Barolo are a hit and miss, so far the one that I liked the most is the Chiara Boschis Cannubi). Damn me, will seek out another one, but I need to find it from a different seller.
4/20/20, 1:46 PM - Hey! So, tonight it was a better showing, as I could finally pick on a core of red fruits, but the wine still tasted much older than it actually is: it’s going to be hard to convince me that this is how it’s supposed to be. In fact, tonight I was scratching my head even more, considering that despite the fruit finally emerged, this was in striking contrast with the old/oxidized flavor profile. Such a pity, as I could get a glimpse of what it could be, and I think I liked it. From the same producer I own a Chinera 2012, so I’m going to give it a try soon and see what I’ll think of it (anticipating your thoughts, I’ll make sure to let it breathe copiously ;)).You are spot on with my style preferences, and in fact I find the feminine profile of the Boschis Cannubi a real treat (if you have recommendation for Barolos with a similar style, I’m all ears!)
4/21/20, 1:57 PM - Thanks a lot for the list!Here is an amusing anecdote: I’m Italian and actually living pretty close to the source (of Barolo). You should have seen the smile on my face when I got corrected on the plural of “Barolo” :-) But truth being told, “Baroli” really doesn’t sound right to my ear. In Italian, I’d say “Barolo” also for plural (I’d flag it as a special case), and the context would help understanding if it’s a singular or a plural.After your warm recommendation, a visit to Elio Grasso domain is in order. Can’t wait for the current situation to be over. Stay healthy my friend!
4/14/20, 1:19 PM - Loved the tasting note, thanks for taking the time. I do wonder about one bit though: was 2016 really a cooler vintage? Maybe slightly cooler than 2015 (or 2011), but I thought the difference was small. AFAIK, 2014 was definitely a cooler vintage, so maybe something to try ;-)
1/26/20, 11:53 AM - Eheh, I hope you don’t have any bottle left! ;-)
10/11/19, 3:06 AM - Totally agree, and this vintage is already a pleasure to sip! I need to try again the 2013 which felt closed a couple of years ago. Thanks for your note!
10/5/19, 8:37 AM - Jeff, Parker may be the one he’s referring to (see his note from 2012 - https://www.farrvintners.com/wine.php?wine=25870).
9/23/19, 4:40 AM - Hey Mark, glad I helped making the decision easier! ;-) Looking forward to your tasting note, as I thoroughly enjoy your scientific approach and eagerness to take one for the team (your recent take on CdPC ‘15 is a great example!)
9/21/19, 5:45 AM - Yeah, JS, don’t get me started :-) Saffredi was greatly priced before JS awarded 100 pts to the 2012....Anyway, while 2010 was hyped for Tuscany, it hasn’t turned out as a strong vintage for Saffredi. The 2012 and 2013 are much tastier!
3/28/18, 9:26 AM - Would definitely be curious to hear what you consider better value at this price point. I’m quite fond of this and its delicate bubbles. Clearly not at the level of a DonP, but considering the price, it’s hard for me to find a better value. (Btw, I’m lucky enough to pay only about 55-60$ for a bottle of Ruinart B de B, so maybe that’s also why I find it a great value)
3/28/18, 11:04 PM - Thanks a lot for the pointers!
1/31/18, 6:04 AM - Indeed, I definitely hope it's in a dumb phase and it will blossom after a few years of resting. Thanks for your comment!
7/8/17, 11:51 PM - I can relate with the experience. Had a 2010 about a month ago, and frankly we didn't enjoy it, which was surprising as we did like it 2.5 years ago. In my case, I felt the oak was too forthcoming, shadowing the fruit and all other nuances. Just like you, I do not look forward to open another bottle. Let's hope cellar time helps but, TBH, I doubt this will ever be great to drink.
5/16/17, 3:57 AM - Hey Jeff, do you feel this is better than 2014 (which you rated 92-94)? I guess they are both great vintages, but it'd be great to hear your thoughts on how they compare. Cheers, and thanks for your always useful notes!
5/16/17, 8:12 AM - Alright, then let's order it :)
5/16/17, 8:22 AM - Yep, Calon Segur is high on my list, but I'm waiting and hoping the price stays reasonable. Lafon Rochet is lovely, and the 2005 I tasted about a year ago was truly delicious. Don't know the other two, I'll check them out.
5/16/17, 8:53 AM - Duly noted :) Thanks, Jeff!
1/14/17, 1:20 AM - It's too young. Give it some cellar time and hopefully you'll feel different about the QPR. I tasted this vintage a year ago and what I found surprising was the velvety of the tannins. I've never had such an experience with a young Saffredi. By the way, the 2007 is a stunner, if you have the opportunity try it out!
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