1/18/24, 2:02 PM - Best Rhys you've ever had, and only 92 points?? You're a tough critic, Paul! Lol.
10/24/23, 11:00 PM - I’m glad you thought so too! My score was higher than others and I’m happy to hear that someone else enjoyed it as much as I did!
8/27/23, 12:51 PM - Thanks for your insight, Mark! I popped and poured, but later regretted not decanting it. Napa pricing has gotten out of hand, but for me, Realm Bard is sort of my benchmark at $150 and Spottswoode at $200-ish. This Seven Stones today is closer to a Bard.
4/19/23, 9:11 AM - Glad to hear you enjoyed this wine too! I think it's personal preference - whether you like the vibrancy and richness of youth or like softer textures and secondary notes of age. I think the older I get, the more I enjoy the latter. So I have a tendency to drink my Saxums at >10 years of bottle age.
2/19/23, 11:38 AM - I thought your score was outlandish…. Until I tasted it myself. Absolutely incredible. Completely unexpected.
11/22/22, 4:52 PM - I bought 6 bottles of this, and I wish I had bought another 12! Impossible to beat value of an aged Bordeaux that I didn't need to cellar myself!
10/18/22, 4:05 PM - I'm not sure. I tend to cellar my wines for at least a decade before drinking, so I've never actually had an Outpost young to follow evolution. This 2011 is the most recent vintage of the Outpost True Vyd that've had. My past experiences have been vintages from the late 2000's, so it's possible it's changed stylistically. I could swear Rivers-Marie is different stylistically now than it was a decade ago. The Output from the 2000's always felt less fruit forward, more muscular than other TRB wines. I'll have to crack open one of my more recent vintages to compare.
3/22/22, 1:01 PM - I got it too! Heavy on the acidity after pop-and-pour. It mellowed out after a couple hours, but I've never had that on any other Saxum before.
7/30/21, 10:42 AM - It was fun to drink something different from my usuals. Bought this on a whim from my grocery store, and I'm glad I did. And I'm glad I bought extra. :) I've never had any high-end cali sauvignon blanc, like from Araujo, to compare, but this wine was better than anything I've had from nz.
8/2/21, 3:11 PM - Thanks for the recommendation! I'll check it out. Lol, I thought I was the only one who thought so about nz sauv blanc. For that reason, I don't spend more than $15 on nz because I can't taste the difference with more expensive ones.
6/26/21, 8:28 PM - You're absolutely right, Kevin. No one really knows how Mike Smith wines will evolve because there isn't much data. 2012 is the first vintage I bought of Myriad so I don't have any older Myriad or any other older Mike Smith wines. It's a leap of faith to think that his wines will age the same as TRB wines, but even the evolution of TRB's wine can vary with site. Outpost's mountain fruit evolves differently than Schrader's, for example. Some reviewers like Parker have said in the past that they don't taste blind, and they do use historical knowledge to extrapolate. So, if a Latour tastes closed on released, they can project how it might be in 20 years. I just rate based on what I taste that day. I have a few bottles of 2012 Myriad left and I'm excited to follow their evolution and report back in future years!
6/21/21, 2:39 PM - My notes are not as eloquent as yours, Mark, but I always enjoy promoting a wine that's fallen off the radar a bit. This Switchback Ridge is more laid-back and mellow than other vintages I've had, but I thought it was delicious, especially with food.
5/5/21, 11:39 PM - This is epic. We should not have the privilege of reading your writeups for free! We should be paying to read your prose. I can't believe I pay a monthly subscription to for all the drab writing on Wine Advocate. You should replace all those so-called wine journalists!
2/17/21, 2:19 PM - I’ve always wanted to throw this wine into a blind Bordeaux tasting. I don’t understand - did the patriarch love this wine, hate it, or was irritated that he was fooled?
2/17/21, 3:25 PM - Sounds like a fun tasting! :)
2/10/21, 4:23 PM - I didn't think it needed decanting. I thought it was ready to go, pop and pour. Cheers!
12/22/20, 7:27 PM - I’ll admit that maybe my score was a little skewed high based on the context. It was a lovely wine consumed with a delicious lunch in the middle of a quarantined holiday season. If I were expecting a big Brunello to have at a steakhouse, this is not it, and it would have ended up with a lower score. This is a Brunello to have with a charcuterie plate with savory salami and salty Parmesan reggiano.
11/8/20, 2:38 PM - Excellent review. I agreed with everyone you wrote 100%, except I scored a few points higher (I do like the subtle funk). I agree that people should not simply dismiss Kosta Browne, California pinot, or non-french pinots with age without tasting a wine such as this. Whether or not a person's palate aligns with this wine, this is a great wine to experience.
12/19/19, 2:53 PM - I opened up a bottle that I’ve had since release and it was singing right from the start. No decanting needed and I didn’t need to wait for my gratification. And I didn’t really get any intrusive alcohol on the finish.
12/10/19, 4:05 PM - I think you're right! I haven't seen the Madrona Vineyard, but I understand it's almost adjacent, right in St Helena. The Spottswoode Vineyard looks nondescript in an almost residential area, but amazing how consistent the fruit is there vintage to vintage.
11/25/19, 11:40 PM - No, I haven’t heard it. And I would be absolutely stunned if the 2008 Krug were not a breathtaking champagne.
10/18/19, 10:48 AM - Great seeing you yesterday, Brandon. My pleasure to share such an epic bottle of wine! See you again soon!
3/26/19, 9:23 PM - Thanks! Some people ask me if I frown upon beers or cocktails since I drink wine, and for me, it's been the exact opposite. Wine, beers, whisky, cocktails have opened my eyes and made me excited to explore new and interesting styles and flavor combinations.
3/12/19, 9:39 AM - Thanks for the tips! My friend who I had lunch with yesterday also brought up Bruno Giacosa - that was his epiphany wine.
3/6/19, 3:30 PM - Thank you. I wanted to pay tribute to a man who was a true gentleman and who represented what is beautiful about our wine hobby, in a world now full of millionaire egos and wine conglomerates.
6/18/18, 5:24 PM - Great write-up for this wine!! I thought I was the only one who thought this was a exceptional expression of what Rhône varietals can be. I really enjoyed reading what you wrote.
6/16/18, 12:01 AM - I’m glad you enjoyed it as much as I did! People forget how great Mark Herold’s wines were pre-divorce, especially at his own Merus. All the Merus wines I’ve had from the early part of the 2000’s have been fantastic!
4/27/18, 2:16 PM - This has my vote for best wine review of the year.
3/27/18, 10:47 AM - Damn you guys!! I swore to cut back on spending this year, especially with expensive cabs but I had to break it today to buy some of this wine. I even promised myself never to spend more than the price of Shafer HSS, so failure there too. When should I open a bottle? 2030? Fantastic review, btw.
3/27/18, 2:08 PM - Thanks for the comments! I am really excited to crack open one of these beauties in a few years.
3/11/18, 12:25 PM - Great note! I have been on the HSS mailing list since the 2002 vintage and they’re my favorite place to tour+tasting in Napa. But, every time I’ve gone, the new release HSS they pour is always painfully tight shut, and frankly, not that enjoyable. Even though they always decant it in the morning prior to the visit. Within the first couple years of release is always too young. After about 10 years from vintage date, it’s the greatest Cabernet in Napa to me!
2/8/18, 11:39 AM - The older Sea Smoke pinots were riper, more extracted. They were always dominated by berry fruits, but I never thought they were syrupy or cola driven. More like fresh seasonal berries. The style was always controversial. Some people loved it, some people hated it. The haters spread rumors that some of her pinots were blended with syrah. I didn't believe it. Sea Smoke pinots were always feminine. But some people have said "female bodybuilder". I didn't agree with that. It is athletic in style, but with bottle age, it was more female ballerina to me. My bottle might have been an outlier because most people seemed to enjoy it. But I will point this out: most people gave this 90, 91, 92 points. This a my own personal opinion, but I think at the top level of pinot noir in the world, which Sea Smoke strives to be, some people should score the wine 95, 96 while others might score it 87, 88. It shouldn't be just be a nice, innocuous bottle of wine.
2/8/18, 1:20 PM - You're welcome! It all depends on perspective. Anyone at Sea Smoke now will tell you that the "glory days" are happening now. That the current style is what it always should have been. Sea Smoke has invested a lot of money into state-of-the-art winemaking facilities to produce the exact wine that they want. Similarly, I'm nervous about Kosta Browne as Dan and Michael are no longer involved in their winemaking and KB is adjusting their style too because they believe that's what the marketplace wants.
1/12/18, 9:22 AM - I totally agree with you guys that I always felt that R-M is stylistically different from other TRB wines. "Savory and inward" is spot-on. Like I get more herbs, soy, plum, and less berry fruit. Opulent usually wouldn't be an adjective I would use. My past experiences with R-M has been with older vintages with bottle age, so this is my first time opening a recent vintage so young, so I don't know if there is something with this particular vintage, or if there is a style shift, or if these wines are better drunk young.
1/4/18, 10:05 PM - I read a lot of your notes, and I gotta say that I really enjoyed reading your recent ones, especially your commentary regarding TRB vs Mike Smith vs Realm, etc. I totally agree with your comments. I do think that candied sweetness, overblown ripeness, plushness are gimmicky ways to make a wine tasty, but they never taste expensive to me. For my palate, Shafer HSS consistently delivers the complexity and uniqueness I expect at that price point, but I'm really loving recent vintages of Myriad and Realm as well.
1/5/18, 10:22 AM - I've never had a Momento Mori, so I will certainly check it out. Thanks for the tip. I wouldn't say it is HSS-like in terms of style, but I think Spottswoode similarly delivers quality and consistency year over year. It wasn't long ago that it was a steal at <$100, and then it was still a great value at $125, but recent vintages are unfortunately pushing $180. Still not a bad price relative though. One TRB wine that I think is a little more unique than others is Outpost True Vineyard. Probably due to the mountain fruit. The Outpost does need more time than any other TRB wine I've had though. Like the 2007 is starting to come around and it's fantastic.
1/4/18, 9:57 PM - LOL! You're probably right. I'm being kind and giving them the benefit of the doubt!
9/6/17, 8:17 PM - I found a fantastic article about the Hayne Vineyard and the work that Carlisle, Bedrock, Ridge, and Turley are doing to preserve old historic vineyards in California. I got the impression from the article that Beckstoffer may have ripped out 100+ year old cabernet and petite vines and replaced them with new cabernet ones. So, maybe the zin vines are still owned by the Hayne family. Not entirely sure.http://www.sfgate.com/wine/thirst/article/Saving-California-s-heritage-one-vine-at-a-time-3984682.php
8/14/17, 12:41 PM - Your review of this wine and Spottswoode in general is absolutely spot on. I enjoyed reading this.
8/9/17, 3:30 PM - LOL... This is what happens when I'm buzzed on a great wine, and I'm rewatching the GOT episode for the 10th time since Sunday.
3/23/17, 3:26 PM - Yikes. Did they use a synthetic cork?
3/21/17, 2:50 PM - Not a typo, but a mistake. I was thinking in my mind that I was drinking a 2008, a less heralded vintage than its successors, 2009 and 2010. I'm going to revise my note. Thanks!
3/8/17, 9:23 AM - Thanks for the catch!
1/27/17, 11:09 AM - I had one corked bottle of HSS, and I contacted Shafer about it. They asked me to send them the bottle and they humbly sent me a replacement bottle of the current vintage. I always get top notch customer service from Shafer!
8/9/16, 5:10 PM - Thanks for your comments. Actually, I was trying to use Jadot in the same context as you suggested. I think Jadot is a "solid" producer, and the great ones I've had were textbook Grand Cru Burgundies (a fantastic '03 Bonne Mares comes to mind), but I think Jadot is a tier below the top producers which are still more sublime and distinctive. That's how I felt about this Littorai - it showed fine winemaking and vineyard pedigree, but still perhaps a notch below the best Burgundies. FWIW, I think the best from California can sometimes reach the levels of Grand Crus from a producer like Jadot, but not the levels of some of my personal favorites, like Dujac or Perrot Minot.
7/20/16, 10:40 AM - Thanks for your comment. I'd like to hear other people's opinions too. I have Rhys pinots dating back to 2006, and Alesia before that. I think the earlier vintages were a little more austere, definitely more esoteric and intellectual. Non-wine geek friends didn't enjoy them as much. This '12 Horseshoe everyone will enjoy.
3/4/16, 7:30 PM - Great and informative review. FWIW, I only recently started drinking the 2007 True Vineyard that I purchased on release, and it is still a baby and just barely entering its drinking window. But, it is magnificent. Be patient. I wouldn't open any of the 2013's from Howell Mountain for a while. And you're absolutely right about the Dunn comparison. Outpost is more like Dunn than Dunn these days.
8/13/15, 1:40 PM - I totally agree with your aside comment. I popped and poured at cellar temp and it was fabulous.
8/13/15, 1:24 PM - Thanks for the tip! A lot of times I like to experiment with serving temp with my champagnes. At cellar temp, the Bollinger was dense and masculine but you're right that it is probably what the cellar master intended. I was curious to try it colder to see if it added lift and vibrancy.
7/19/15, 8:15 PM - Thanks! Everyone at the table felt the same way too. A wine that makes grown men blush!
6/10/15, 5:44 PM - That 2000 Cuvée Elizabeth gives me chills when I think about it. It too is the best Pinot I've ever had, and I'm a hostage to the Kistler mailing list to find that again. Many kistlers have been great, but nothing comes close to that 2000 Elizabeth.
4/27/15, 11:25 AM - Thanks for your comment! This wine is in such a great place right now. I actually thought it had more depth than a Vecina I had from the same vintage a few years back. It makes me think that I've been opening the big boys too early!
2/26/15, 8:43 AM - You can never go wrong with Alban! :)
1/30/15, 3:41 PM - Thanks. I'm not surprised that the 2011 would be fantastic. It may have been a difficult year for some winemakers, but this wine tasted like it was made by someone intimately in tune with the vineyard. Well composed and balanced.
6/26/14, 10:21 AM - At $22 at the time, I should have bought this by the truckload!
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