1/11/24, 10:16 PM - Hi Mark, I did not decant it, but it was drunk over four hours, so I could follow its evolution. As I experienced it, not much air is required, maybe half an hour or one hour, as I couldn‘t notice any considerable improvement after. I think you can well open it now. But the wine also still has a long life ahead. My initial comment was more a short note to myself with my rating relative to others and relative to its price. Cheers!
1/12/24, 9:22 AM - Thanks, Joel. Will try with more air next time.
6/24/23, 8:14 PM - Hi, the wine was very drinkable right from the start, but kept improving while drinking out of the bottle over a two hour period. Don‘t know what would have come after that because the bottle was gone. So I would give it at least an hour in the decanter next time.
6/23/23, 8:36 AM - Thanks for your note! Wondering how much air the wine got? Did you decant it and how much time did you spend drinkong it? Thanks!I am asking because I am thinking about purchasing it. To me it is the best bottle I ever had, too. But that was seven years ago. :-)
6/24/23, 10:04 AM - Thanks!
1/22/23, 7:29 AM - Thanks for your note. How did you drink it? Did you give it air before drinking? Thanks.
11/12/22, 12:02 PM - Just had a botle now. Really disagree. Was very fruity, the oak no issue at all. Give it another chance.
10/30/22, 2:08 PM - Thanks for your helpful note. Yes, I have experienced the same when comparing first and second growths.The answer to your question is that while the first growths are built for long term drinking, second wines are often (but not always) produced for ealier consumption - e.g. less tanin extraction from the grapes, less new oak - therefore they are more approachable young. First growth require more aging, but have the benefit of a potentially more complex flavour profile in the future. It might well be that your judgement on the two wines changes if you compare them again in 10 or even more so in 20 years. Keep us posted (if you have the patience…:-))
10/6/22, 1:56 PM - I love Gloria as well, but 100 points? For me 100 points is wine that cannot be any better.
9/30/21, 1:03 PM - In my opinion, if you do so you‘ll have drunk all of them by the time it‘ll just start to be at it‘s peak… I personally would give it a bit more time.
5/15/21, 3:39 AM - First growths are made to be drunk not earlier than after 10 or 15 years. It just doesn‘t make any sense to open one now and it give it a (comparably) low score, just because it is not yet ready. It is NOT made for this.
5/14/21, 8:32 PM - Thanks, Stefan. You are right, my judgement may be premature. Will definitely try more pure CF when I run across them. I also appreciate the character of CF a lot and believe the grape is underestimated in general. But in the end it all ends up with personal preferences.
4/30/21, 10:42 PM - Hi Mark, I don‘t think it was an off bottle, but maybe it was inferior to other bottles as part of normal bottle variation. My last bottle one year ago was better, therefore my impression that it is on the decline. However, both bottles were drunk within about two and a half hours, so I don‘t know how they would have shown after five hours. I had the feeling that it would not improve with more air, but I might be wrong with that. You‘ll find out, looking forward to read about it.
5/2/20, 7:04 AM - These wines are made to be drunk with about 15, better 20 years of age. No wonder it‘s not good now.
5/2/20, 9:31 AM - Right, actually I specifically referred to Montrose, which generally needs more time than other Bordeaux.
5/2/20, 12:14 PM - I see. Somerimes they are good very young with lots of fruit, but then they close down for a few years before they once open again. Or it might just have bottle variation.
4/10/18, 11:46 AM - Given the many great ratings from others, I assume (better: hope) this was just an off bottle. Just along the saying ‚there is no good wine, there‘s just good bottles‘ :-)
3/8/20, 2:55 PM - Mistery resolved. I had another bottle today, which was great. This was clearly an off bottle.
12/28/19, 9:30 AM - Thanks for the helpful note. How was the evolution after opening - how much air do you recommend? Thanks!
12/16/19, 3:40 PM - Thanks for your very helpful comments!
10/15/19, 8:33 PM - See my note from May 15 - do not pop and pour this wine. It is just a waste considering its potential. From my experience, it is generally not advisable to open a bottle of serious (and still young) Bordeaux, which requires aging, under time pressure. When I did this in the past I later regreted it. Therefore I prefer to choose a more straight forward wine when in a rush.
10/16/19, 4:44 AM - Thanks, John. Fully agree. I do exactly the same. I have also started drinking the Bordeaux Meyney (and some other) 2009s, but what my point on the Meyney is that it is key to give it some decanting currently. From my experience it currently really starts to shine after about 45 mins.Means if at this stage you open a bottle without giving it air (pop and pour) and share it with three other persons, most of the wine will be gone after 45 mins, means you and your guests were not able appreciate the real quality of this wine (which is currenently in the 92 to 94 range on my scale).
8/17/19, 4:59 AM - Please let us know. So far I only had disappointing experiences with the coravin.
8/1/19, 1:52 PM - Yes, that‘s what I thought. But the thing is that the cork smell disappeared after a while. So I don‘t know if it was flawed (given the other reviews here) or if it was just like this wine is.
6/10/19, 12:07 AM - Why then not delete the note and move it to 2005? Thanks.
5/30/19, 11:51 AM - Thanks for your note. What is your experience with coravin? I‘ve used it for about 10 bottles since I bought it and each time I was disappointed. Every time the bottle deteriorated significantly after only a few days, even though I was very careful in applying it correctly.
6/2/19, 1:00 AM - Thanks for sharing. Will try it again.
5/8/19, 2:28 PM - Agree, high quality bordeaux - while nowadays being approachable earlier than in the past - are generally still not made to drink 3 years after the vintage. I don‘t open any of the 15s yet at all. But if you do, at least a long decant is essential.
11/10/18, 1:08 PM - How did you drink this wine? After having had a few bottles of this I cannot follow how this wine should be extremey extracted. To me it is in the opposite relatively muted.
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