1/8/24, 5:58 PM - Curious about your reference to pedigree - Germaine had an excellent reputation as a Beaune vigneron before his sad death (not long after making this wine). Or do you mean the vineyard, which, granted, is a GC reputed for elegance more than weight and volume? The 08 and 09 bottlings were cleared out at fire-sale prices, I imagine by Jadot, who bought Germaine's vineyards, I believe.
1/9/24, 9:06 AM - Thanks, your reply clarifies everything. I think you're in good company assessing Bressandes to be generically less-impressive than some other Corton vineyards - although it has its stars and champions, too.
1/8/24, 6:08 PM - A Pavelot Dominode typically starts to come into its own 12-15 years after vintage - emphasis on 'starts.' 2019 and 2020 are good vintages. I'm guessing what you experienced was the tail end of its primary period as the wine in this bottle was transitioning into the dumb-mute phase. It's hard to judge a wine in this stage, unless, maybe, you have a professional's level of tasting experience.
7/29/23, 7:27 PM - Thanks for the thoughtful note. I've been waiting for the 2005 Senechal to come around before getting into these, but maybe now's the moment.
3/25/23, 12:15 PM - Thanks for the feedback and validation. Go team Thivin!
3/2/22, 8:44 AM - Thank you. The first bottle I opened (not the one described in this note) was undrinkable. Hoping for good things with the remaining bottles (mine and yours) and will report back here as we make our way through them.
1/11/22, 6:37 AM - Thanks for the shout-out. It's normal for tasters to assess the same wine differently and, granted, my view is a minority one here. My preference leans strongly towards mature wines, over youthful ones, which may explain much of the difference. Thanks for your note.
11/29/21, 5:09 AM - Thanks, L-C. I was underwhelmed by a bottle of this a year or two ago, but held out hope because of the reputation of the vineyard and vintage. How long in advance of drinking would you suggest opening to air?
11/29/21, 8:49 AM - Thanks. Slow-oxing sounds right, but I may try giving it even longer; maybe pull the cork in the morning. I'll report back. Cheers.
11/13/21, 8:05 AM - 2009, sorry for the error. I have both and clicked on the wrong one. Reposting now.
9/11/21, 6:05 PM - Nice note, Phil. Thanks for sharing your experience and insight.
8/2/21, 10:52 AM - Re: Dundee vs. Willamette, I deferred while writing to what I imagined to be superior knowledge in prior notes on this wine, which are sorted into two threads, one for Willamette and one for Dundee. Happy to defer to your knowledge now instead. Re: flaw, I don't think so. After very extended air time - several days - an impressive volume of jammy fruit showed up, but the whole gestalt is still not for me - a burnt quality remains, slightly similar to what I've detected in some red Burgundy in hot years, and the acid-fruit combo was not really well-balanced, imho.Re: differing from other notes, taste isn't determined by consensus or majority vote, and I try to call 'em like I see 'em.All that said, in my admittedly haphazard sampling of the category, I've only come across one or two west coast Pinots that I'd rebuy - Ghostwriter and, possibly, Biggio Hamina - which adds context to my assessment.
9/9/21, 12:19 PM - I respectfully agree.
8/10/21, 5:14 PM - Hey, Phil, thanks for the notes. It's very early days to open a 2014 Pavelot Dominode; I normally wouldn't touch one in under 12 years or so. Unexpected development of flavor and aroma is the essence of well-cellared wines, none more so than red Burgundy. Be patient and hang in there. try to hold your remaining bottles another 6-7 years.
8/2/21, 9:08 AM - Oui, d'accord.
7/16/21, 5:33 PM - Drink now? Or hold? Your thoughts?
6/6/21, 6:51 PM - Thanks, I'll have to try again. Blanc de noirs, or rose?
5/9/21, 4:26 PM - IMHO, Guettes takes time to show what it's got to offer, but can be surprisingly good once it finally relaxes. Hope you have another bottle or two to try in the coming years.
5/6/21, 7:04 PM - Thanks. As it happens, I have a boatload of Ausleses from Prüm Christoffel, Grunhäuser, Kartäuserhof, von Hövel ... mostly 2001 and 2002 ... a little 03-05. Like a lot. Not sure why I bought so much . . Anyway, if you’re in my neck of the woods in five years, you should drop by and help me sample a few.
5/1/21, 1:19 PM - Thanks for following up - I should have posted on the second half of my bottle back in January. I dare say, the experience fell short of my optimistic first interpretation, tending more in the direction of your comments. I would say the jury is still out, but it's inclining at this point towards conviction. We'll have to monitor these bottles in the coming years.Definite yes to a revisitation in 4.
12/1/20, 4:45 PM - Thanks. As BordeauxNut, I defer to your likely superior judgement. Apology for the flowery prose - never post a note when you're on your second glass ; )
1/1/21, 2:41 PM - Gordianbar - You're much too kind! Thank you and happy New Year.
10/26/20, 8:45 AM - Delighted to read this, BG; I was ready to take the counsel of despair with respect to this wine, which has been consistently tough and truculent when I've sampled my bottles. Happily, I haven't sampled all of them yet!
12/6/19, 3:01 AM - Thanks for the helpful perspective. I hope the variation is dampened, at least, for magnums: I have two and when to open them is looking like a crap-shoot. Cheers.
10/9/19, 12:39 PM - ?
8/20/19, 1:36 PM - Thanks. I couldn’t think of much more to say in the moment.I drank the last part of the bottle a couple of days later, while traveling, and it seemed to have cheered up a bit. Or I was just desperate for a glass of wine at the end of a long day ☺️
6/7/19, 8:44 AM - For what it's worth, we recently opened a 2002 Rollin Ile that was beautiful and delicious. Unless you have an express preference for young red Burgundy, this wine cellars very well - though there may be a long-iso shut-down period. But, de gustabus ...
6/11/18, 4:43 PM - '12s are probably closed now - good Muscadel closes like other fine wines. If you have more bottles, hold them for a couple of years, or try one a year.
1/3/17, 7:52 PM - I think the 2009s have legs and will be great down the road. However, try an 09 Vissoux Fleurie Garants now, if you can lay your hands on one. Excellent.
12/5/16, 5:33 AM - Based on the 2005 bottle, I'll be holding some of my 2011 Garants until 2023. Other recently-opened, excellent 2005 cru Beaujolais are Thivin Cote de Brouilly and Tete Fleurie cuvée prestige. 2005 Vissoux Moulin-a-Vent Deux Roches (now Trois Roches) was developing on a similar curve to that of the Garants, say, two years ago, but I finished my stash then and can't report on how they are now. Wish I had a few bottles of 2005 Coudert cuvée tardive for comparison.
11/12/16, 1:16 PM - Thanks for the report. CdB ile is one of my top holdings, but I'm trying to be patient with the 05s - nice to check in on them vicariously.
10/25/16, 1:09 PM - The wine improved after a couple of nights open - notes of medicine and iron, with characteristic charming Burgundy tartness. Reminded me somewhat of the 08 Pavelot Dominodes I opened a few years ago. I was thinking of Josgood's note on his wine when I opened it, but should have been thinking of Burgaddict's note.
8/8/16, 7:55 AM - More the rubbery kind - this is a kind of clichéed descriptor for the distinctly odd (e.g., vegetal, chemical) but delicious flavor that often accompanies the more usual fruit and floral aromas (e.g., damson) of good red wine from Burgundy. It's kind of lazy of me to use it, but I can't find the right words sometimes. In any event, you can hardly go wrong with Bize, in my opinion. RIP Patrick.
8/8/16, 8:46 AM - I'm not really an expert, but I'd say its slightly idomatic, and would guess it's more common in British and American wine community usage. I think I picked it up originally from a book on wine by Oz Clark.
7/29/16, 3:09 PM - Thanks for the feedback; delighted to be of assistance.
6/18/16, 5:36 PM - I opened one a 750 a few weeks ago and respectfully beg to differ. After a fuzzy start, it improved with air time in the bottle for a few days, increasing in focus and clarity, as good Muscadet is wont to do. In magnum, it may be in a dumb phase, or your bottle may be flawed. Muscadet with a bit of age often tastes a bite oxidized initially. I won't be rushing to finish mine, in any event.
2/28/16, 10:56 AM - Schade. First release or second?
2/28/16, 4:01 PM - I opened a good second release bottle at the beginning of February, but maybe it's time to drink up.
2/21/16, 11:23 AM - Judging by the 08 Michel MdT, the bell-wriging will come in a few years' time. The '08 is only now beginning to show its real stature on the second or third day after opening, and the stature is on the order of a much more prestigous Chablis.
2/22/16, 11:54 AM - Sorry, should be "bell-ringing"
12/22/15, 6:51 PM - No. A decant would be beneficial, but try a small glass without for learning purposes.I think the wine shows very well now, especially with air, but should continue to develop, so no rush to drink, in any event.
12/22/15, 7:07 PM - If you have more than three, imho, it's a good time to open one. The most impressive, complete wine out of Beaujolais I've encountered, with the possible exception of Tete Prestige 2005. Posthumous shout-out to Joe Dougherty, who shamed me into trying Foillard's 2007 Morgon.
7/21/15, 12:29 PM - Actually a Pernand, not an SLB. I've been sitting on my bottles so far; think I'll continue to wait a bit yet.
5/31/15, 12:15 PM - When are you coming to DC this summer?
5/26/15, 5:53 AM - Thanks for the feedback, very useful; I have no frame of reference of my own for age-worthy SB-based wines.
4/6/15, 8:39 AM - The Vissoux crus (and other cru Beaujolais) go through a bizarre transition period, where they can taste badly flawed. If you have any more, hold them for a couple of years and try again. We had some 05s last year that required an hour's decant to come around, and then tasted very fine, though in a different mold from the stereotype of juicy, fruity Beaujolais.
4/9/15, 6:41 PM - Of all cru Beaujolais, Moulins are the ones to hold the longest, in any event.
1/25/15, 4:39 PM - No; it was Coravanned from the bottle and we tasted after just a brief swirl. I'll open the remainders this week and extend my report.
11/13/14, 5:06 PM - 05 red Burgundy is closed now, at least at 1er level. This note is consistent with your one on Potel 05 Pommard. I wouldn't mess with these for years yet, personally.
10/18/14, 5:46 PM - We opened one of these about six weeks ago, Mark, and it was positively roaring on the second night. It may not be a 2004, but should be good for a while yet, imho.
8/13/14, 6:04 AM - Yes; without actually going back and counting, my impression is the same. Curious.
7/4/14, 9:08 AM - I've run across a repulsive 'dried raisin' thing in two recent bottles of 2005 Vissoux Moulin; tastes atrocious; but the following day, the wine was superb. So I surmise it's an odd developmental phase. May be different from what you encountered, naturally.
7/5/14, 5:29 AM - Sorry to hear. I have the 05 upper tier, too, but have been waiting to open one. Perhaps now is the time.
6/12/14, 3:57 AM - A '99 cotes de nuits 1er from Jadot, it's probably closed-down; very unlikely to be past its peak, unless previously heat-damaged.
6/15/14, 7:40 AM - I'm no expert, but the general chat is that good 99 1ers from the Cote d'Or aren't really waking up yet, and Jadot's reputation is for making wines with very good longevity. Anyway, I'm hanging on to mine, as well. Cheers.
6/15/14, 6:10 PM - I don't have any '96s, sadly. I've read some notes suggesting that some may be opening, but there doesn't seem to be any rush. Again, I'm no expert, but I read a lot and taste when I can.
6/16/14, 6:13 AM - Cheers, thanks. Great cellar photo, by the way.
12/2/13, 3:48 AM - Did you decant this bottle?
12/2/13, 10:19 AM - Thanks; I have this in magnum, also Bougrots Bouguerots, and been wondering what to do with it. Maybe Christmas.
8/10/13, 8:11 AM - First or second release, Salil?
7/15/13, 11:35 AM - Are your bottles from different sources?
7/14/13, 11:02 AM - I have some of these. Is the Servin MdT not for aging?
3/11/13, 12:59 PM - Thanks for this note. I thought good Valmur was nearly immortal, but it's tempting to open one now, on the strength of your description. Did you decant?
3/8/13, 2:21 AM - Maybe we had an off night or bottle; hope you report on yours. I'm serious about the cork: one of the best I've pulled.
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